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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:07 PM
  
Some people mentioned the feeling of being left out. Maybe, I should put this in Astro 2, as well. I think the chart really does give one these basic tendencies, as well as other basic tendencies.
If you see two children, one will jump in and become part of a group. The other will hang back.
Chart wise, I would think hanging back could be 12th House planets or Saturn conjunct the Sun( or square it)
It could be Chiron conj the ASC due to prior bullying. It could be other things,too. I will re-post this in Astro. 2 and see what people think. ------------------
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12thhouser
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posted July 09, 2013 12:30 PM
Hanging back... maybe. 12th house people prefer solitude and find good company with those well-aspected to us.. We don't crave the spotlight. Speaking socially, of course. On the other hand, having 12th house activity gives us a perspective those seeking the spotlight may overlook, even ignore. So, feeling left out can get kind of tricky. I think it'll be more of an aspect between rulers than a particular placement.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Hanging back... maybe. 12th house people prefer solitude and find good company with those well-aspected to us.. We don't crave the spotlight. Speaking socially, of course. On the other hand, having 12th house activity gives us a perspective those seeking the spotlight may overlook, even ignore. So, feeling left out can get kind of tricky. I think it'll be more of an aspect between rulers than a particular placement.
Can you give some examples, please 
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12thhouser
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posted July 09, 2013 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Can you give some examples, please
Such as? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted July 09, 2013 12:40 PM
I was the ''other'' who would hang back when I was a child...
My sister was the one who would fit right in.
Except that NOW that we are both adults, things are reversed. I will fit right in, while she will hang back. Can someone explain this astrologically?  IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted July 09, 2013 12:42 PM
I have both Sedna and Dejanira in my 1st house and I was never part of the group.IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted July 09, 2013 12:42 PM
It used to happen to me during my teens.I think I blame my Scorpio features for my lone-wolf tendency. I'm pretty emotional, and back then I didn't hide emotions. I even cried a lot in front of other kids and I guess they took it as a weakness, so they started to bully me. IP: Logged |
Gemmy
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posted July 09, 2013 12:43 PM
I have Saturn in the 11th in opposition to Chiron in the 5th.I've always felt this way.I like being alone but sometimes not so much.I tend to dwell on negative things when left alone.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Such as?
Like make up hypothetical chart aspects and how you think they would play out. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by Emsie:
It used to happen to me during my teens.I think I blame my Scorpio features for my lone-wolf tendency. I'm pretty emotional, and back then I didn't hide emotions. I even cried a lot in front of other kids and I guess they took it as a weakness, so they started to bully me.
Do you have Chiron conj the ASC or in the 1st house. ------------------
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Aquacheeka
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posted July 09, 2013 12:53 PM
Saturnine chart or Chiron in the 11th.My bf happens to have both and regularly feels like this. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
I have Saturn in the 11th in opposition to Chiron in the 5th.I've always felt this way.I like being alone but sometimes not so much.I tend to dwell on negative things when left alone.
That makes total sense, Gemmy, with that placement. The person I am thinking of who feels left out has Saturn in the 11th, too. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Saturnine chart or Chiron in the 11th.My bf happens to have both and regularly feels like this.
Yes, great post, AQ. Thanks! xx ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
I have both Sedna and Dejanira in my 1st house and I was never part of the group.
Do they touch anything personal like planets or angles? ------------------
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EmpressMendez
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posted July 09, 2013 12:58 PM
My son has Sun, Saturn, Venus and Mercury in 12th house and he's definitely always complaining about being bullied/being left out, but I watched him play with other kids, and the thing is that he's a "tattle-tale". The kids don't like that, and he tends to be a bit immature for his age, so he has a hard time fitting in. Also, my son I guess is a bit effeminate - he's not a "tough boy", so that's another issue I suppose. He prefers staying on the computer, and being more introverted -- I guess a bit nerdy :P. <3He is popular in school though, but he tends to dislike losing and likes to tattle on the other kids, which in turn makes him infamous instead. IP: Logged |
LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted July 09, 2013 01:00 PM
Sedna and Dejanira are conjunct by 3 degrees.
Dejanira exact squares my sun.
Sedna squares my sun by 3 degrees.
No touch to any angles or any more personal planets. Unless you consider a 4 degree square with mars by Sedna.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted July 09, 2013 01:03 PM
I have Mars and Jupiter in the 12th. Those planets, together, describe the action of socializing I think. I don't mind small groups of friends but I don't like big groups of new people. I feel out of place. I hang back and feel like I stick out like a sore thumb usually.IP: Logged |
Emsie
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posted July 09, 2013 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you have Chiron conj the ASC or in the 1st house.
My Chiron in Leo (9H) squares ASC Scorpio Or - Chiron opposing my Saturn in Aquarius (3H) Or - Chiron square Venus in Scorpio (12H) Do you think these aspects can indicate this feeling? Or is it something else? IP: Logged |
meyray
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posted July 09, 2013 02:35 PM
Saturn in the 11th House/thread IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Emsie:
My Chiron in Leo (9H) squares ASC ScorpioOr - Chiron opposing my Saturn in Aquarius (3H) Or - Chiron square Venus in Scorpio (12H) Do you thing these aspects can indicate this feeling? Or is it something else?
How close are these, Emsie dear? ------------------
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Kerosene
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posted July 09, 2013 02:47 PM
asteroid Lilith conjunct asc.
I was like always really different compared to everyone.
Even the way I dressed.People didn't really know how to react around me. I isolated myself a lot of the times..
Idk thou.. I never did feel lonely. To me I would rather be by myself than around people that didn't really like me to begin with. You have a choice, either you can surround yourself with people or not. Don't complain if you chose to be by yourself.
Get off the computer right now and met up with anyone on your contacts and have a good time.
You have to make a conscious effort to fit in. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted July 09, 2013 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Like make up hypothetical chart aspects and how you think they would play out.
No, I really don't know. We'd have to wait and see what others who've felt left out have in their chart. IP: Logged |
Emsie
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From: Budapest
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posted July 09, 2013 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How close are these, Emsie dear?
I'm totally new at this, so I'll post what I can see in the table. Chiron sq ASC: -0°31a
Chiron opp Saturn: -5°29a
Chiron sq Venus: -2°29a *Grins and hides* IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
asteroid Lilith conjunct asc.
I was like always really different compared to everyone.
Even the way I dressed.People didn't really know how to react around me. I isolated myself a lot of the times..
Idk thou.. I never did feel lonely. To me I would rather be by myself than around people that didn't really like me to begin with. You have a choice, either you can surround yourself with people or not. Don't complain if you chose to be by yourself.
Get off the computer right now and met up with anyone on your contacts and have a good time.
You have to make a conscious effort to fit in.
People with Lilith conj the ASC seem to radiate sexual vibes and get hit on all the time. Did you? ------------------
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Kerosene
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posted July 09, 2013 03:28 PM
Yes.. in the most demeaning ways. I have crazy stories, but I won't mention them here.. I'll im going to say if I'm terrified to go out to parties or clubs on my own. I have no friends here and this city is extra filthy so Nope.
Im going to work and staying home! I am overtly sexual in demonor but kinda like lilith herself, I honestly don't care.
Deal with it. I have lust on my dsc and Black moon on my dsc. But ami what do you feel about the asteroid lilith?
I've read people are ostracized from their community etc. IP: Logged |
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