posted July 12, 2013 03:56 PM            

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posted July 12, 2013 04:19 PM            

You always feel like you can be/do better, like you're not 100% happy with yourself

posted July 12, 2013 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by SilverFeather:
[...] Moon Square Venus.

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+1.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Saturn conj [...] Sun

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+1.

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Sun/Saturn hard aspects

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+1.

How about the following:

Sun conjunct Pluto - ?

Venus opposite Jupiter - ?

Personal planets in Virgo - ? Maybe not self-hating, but self-critical.

posted July 12, 2013 07:34 PM            

Jupiter is expansive planet.

Mars opp jupiter can be even worse..
I knew this one mars opp jupiter with an unholy libedo .

posted July 12, 2013 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Sun/Saturn hard aspects

You always feel like you can be/do better, like you're not 100% happy with yourself

Edit: Mercury/Saturn aspects can give pessimistic thinking too

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posted July 12, 2013 10:36 PM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Saturn and/or 12th house afflictions(self-undoing).

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I would say this post is right on the money - also put Saturn squaring the IC/MC axis.

I suffered with self hate since I was a toddler. I was born to teen folks who really didn't want a baby around and there was a lot of abuse, neglect and abandonment.

I have Sun conj Chiron the the 11th square to Mars in Capricorn in the 8th and opposite Uranus in Libra in the 5th house. Then I have Venus in Pisces in the 10 squaring Jupiter and Neptune in Sag in the 16th.

So my birth father was a highly volatile and violent man who disappeared out of my life when I was 8. My mother was a very deceptive lady and never told the truth or was honest - she left a very confusing effect on me.

Right now transiting Uranus and Pluto - then soon Mercury and Jupiter will be setting my volatile T square some more.

posted July 12, 2013 11:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Sun/Saturn hard aspects

You always feel like you can be/do better, like you're not 100% happy with yourself

Edit: Mercury/Saturn aspects can give pessimistic thinking too

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posted July 13, 2013 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Harsh aspects to the Ruler of the 2nd house and/or
a hard aspect from Ruler of the 2nd to the Ruler of the Ascendant or
poorly aspected planets in the 2nd house

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posted July 13, 2013 05:26 AM            

I agree with the others about the aspects that may lead to it.

You need to look into the planetary symbols in your own chart to exactly understand what part of you is suffering and pushing you towards self-destruction.

posted July 13, 2013 09:24 AM            

I used to feel quite bad about myself when I was growing up (sometimes I still do) in rather extreme ways (mostly in the Catholic guilt kind of way, haha), but in a manner of speaking, I've come to appreciate these feelings and feel like they're ultimately good for me. The older I get, the more pressure I feel to succeed/overcome my perceived and/or actual faults. At the end of the day, no matter what hard feelings I have toward myself, I realize that I am in many ways my own worst enemy, but I also realize that this is probably for the best, haha...I would rather go through the pain and difficulty of changing and adjusting (hopefully) for the better than staying stagnant and anxious. If I didn't look in the mirror and only see fat, I wouldn't go to the gym (and thus have overall better health). If I didn't look around the classroom and see brilliance, I wouldn't push myself to learn more. If I didn't look at my bank statement and only see lack of funds, I wouldn't work so hard to get further along a career path/grow my personal wealth. If I didn't look at my home and see a war zone, I wouldn't try to mediate between waring family factions.

Perhaps this has to do in part with having both of my luminaries in fire, but even in my darkest moments, there has always been a glimmer of optimism that things will get better. Mostly because I recognize that I (mostly) have the power to make them so.

posted July 13, 2013 10:41 AM            

the 6th house. virgo worries too much

saturn in scorp. build vs destroy. scorp generally - u don't want that stinger turned inwards...

posted July 13, 2013 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
I have Sun-Saturn exact square and i love myself. I don't hate myself for sure.

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Me too.

I don't struggle so much with self-hate (because I'm pretty awesome, actually) but I DO struggle with how I present myself and how others perceive that - Oops, Saturn sextile ASC!

It's a struggle between showing who I really am and not scaring new people off with the weirdo that I really am. I'm really critical of myself and I end up a socially awkward duckling. I come off as very shy and serious, potentially with a bit of a superiority complex, but I'm not like that at all!