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Aquacheeka
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posted July 17, 2013 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your thoughts on famous Aquarian couple Emma Roberts and Evan Peters' violent altercation?

The incident took place on July 7th, with hotel guests calling the police amid screams and finding Evan Peters with a bloody nose and, reportedly, bite marks.

Emma was released after he refused to press charges and the pair are apparently back together and working on American Horror Story.

Here is his chart:

and here is hers:

The incident took place on July 7th. Does anyone see anything in their synastry or remember anything about the transits that day that would have pointed to violence?

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themischievousone
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posted July 17, 2013 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is their natal information? I'm very curious myself and those charts are harder to read for a noob like me. xD

One thing I have discovered is during a violent altercation, in the aggressor's chart transiting mars was conjunct with natal saturn and transiting saturn was conjunct with natal mars.
In the other chart, transit uranus rx and moon was conjunct natal jupiter and transit sun conjunct natal saturn. That's all I remember from the top of my head.

I would love to see if there are any similarities in the transits.

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Aquacheeka
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posted July 18, 2013 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi themischievousone.

Emma has her sun at 21° Aquarius,
her moon at 6° Capricorn,
Merc. @ 7° Aquarius,
Venus at 15° Pisces,
Mars at 6° Gemini,
Pluto at 20° Scorpio, and
Saturn at 0° Aquarius.

Evan has his sun at 0° Aquarius,
moon at 3° Libra,
Mercury at 5° Aquarius,
Venus at 13° Sag,
Mars at 8° Aries,
Pluto at 9° Scorpio, and
Saturn at 17° Sagittarius.

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Aquacheeka
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posted July 18, 2013 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These were the transits on that day. Anything popping out to anyone here??
http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi?lang=e&gif=astro_2gw_01_incident.57126.6893.gif&res=100&va=&cid=i4nfileK5heUV-u1374162725

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 18, 2013 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For starters, their moons and Venuses form squares by sign. Libra/Capricorn for the moon. Sagittarius/Pisces for Venus. Even if the squares aren't exact by orb, the signs are still at that angle and it indicates they have different ways of expressing emotion and affection that won't always agree. There could be friction at times. This in itself does not indicate disaster but there could be a few bumps in the road for them.

The Venuses are in mutable signs, one is exalted. Still, there is hope since both these signs are ruled by Jupiter. One is a bit more exuberant than the other. Could get on each other nerves from time to time.

Libra and Capricorn moon should share a basic foundation. Libra will be slightly more extravagant and expressive than Capricorn due to Venus depositor. Venus in Pisces can make up for this.

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Aquacheeka
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posted July 18, 2013 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
For starters, their moon and Venus form squares by sign. Even if the squares aren't exact by orb, the signs are still at that angle and it indicates they have different ways of expressing emotion and affection that won't always agree. There could be friction at times. This in itself does not indicate disaster but there could be a few bumps in the road for them.


I kind of agree with you. I don't always give credence to the whole orb thing. I mean, I know it's important but my experiences indicate that even if it's not by exact orb, anyone whose sun sign squares my moon sign is going to drive me nuts on a romantic level.

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Aquacheeka
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posted July 18, 2013 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have Venus sq. Venus, I noticed.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted July 18, 2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just at a quick glance, I see a lot of compatibility between them.

One has a weaker Saturn, the other, stronger which can create balance in their relationship, one provides what the other lacks as far as providing structure/expectations within the relationship. Sagittarius Saturn might not always be in agreement.

Especially Saturn at 0 degrees Aqua. This does suggest Sagittarius Saturn will hold this Saturn back some. Emma was the one who exploded at Evan. She has the Aqua Saturn and Venus in Pisces. She could get ruffled from time to time.

Emma also has Venus and Mars in incompatible elements while Evan has his in fire forming a trine. This is another aspect where one can provide what the other lacks, it can create stability in their relationship.

Evan's sun conjunct Emma's Saturn indicates they both need to develop a more mature and stable attitude toward their relationship.

Saturn usually says the relationship will be long term, for better or worse.

Off topic: Emma's Mercury and Mars in air form a grand trine with my Mercury by very close orb. She also has Jupiter conjunct my Venus by less than one degree! Kinda wish I was her relationship counselor. My Libra planets fall in her fifth house! She could benefit from what I tell her.

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Leocassandra
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posted July 18, 2013 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leocassandra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well babes. we don't know time of birth both of them...their N Moons could be in hard aspect to T Jupiter (her in opposition). there is a rumor about her being under influence...that glee star, Heath Ledger at the days of their accident had T Jupiter in opposition to Moon. T Saturn square her N Jupiter (no luck). T Chiron (wound) conjunct her Venus, square his. T Pluto square his Mars! is the time of the incident correct? ASC could be on fixed star Algol...

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