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LiesLilithsaidtouranus
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posted July 19, 2013 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw a thread similar to this around this week, so I thought why not!

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posted July 19, 2013 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there LiesLilith!

I'm not very good at this but I wanted to try to find a practical way of figuring out how a couple (whether romantic or platonic) met, using a composite or Davison chart.

Could I try to guess and will you tell me if I get it right?

I know that's the purpose of this but I just wanted to know if you would indulge me by being very blunt and saying either "yes" or "no" outright. No sugar coating it so I can get some really straight forward feedback.

Not that you need to be mean! Pretty please?

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posted July 19, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Hey there LiesLilith!

I'm not very good at this but I wanted to try to find a practical way of figuring out how a couple (whether romantic or platonic) met, using a composite or Davison chart.

Could I try to guess and will you tell me if I get it right?

I know that's the purpose of this but I just wanted to know if you would indulge me by being very blunt and saying either "yes" or "no" outright. No sugar coating it so I can get some really straight forward feedback.

Not that you need to be mean! Pretty please?


Sure!
Any questions are fine.
I will tell you if you are right or not ^.^

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posted July 19, 2013 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much!!

Okay so from this point I always think the Descendant is going to say how the couple came together. I could be wrong.

If this is true though, I would look to the House ruler. The Descendant's ruler is Mercury and is sitting in the 12th House. The 12th House cusp starts in Aquarius.

I would say you met because of a spiritual cause, possibly online because of that Uranus ruled 12th House. Mercury is also ruling the 3rd House of communication so it could be a forum, very much like Linda-Land.

Is this close or not?

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posted July 19, 2013 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Thank you so much!!

Okay so from this point I always think the Descendant is going to say how the couple came together. I could be wrong.

If this is true though, I would look to the House ruler. The Descendant's ruler is Mercury and is sitting in the 12th House. The 12th House cusp starts in Aquarius.

I would say you met because of a spiritual cause, possibly online because of that Uranus ruled 12th House. Mercury is also ruling the 3rd House of communication so it could be a forum, very much like Linda-Land.

Is this close or not?



Nope. Not online, but very close in the spiritual aspect of it.
I'll give you this, we met in school.

Anything else you get from it?

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posted July 19, 2013 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm Looks fishy..

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posted July 19, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
hmm Looks fishy..

Hahaha! i kept help but laugh
Do you say this because there's a lot of Pisces going on?

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posted July 19, 2013 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dominicano.


Yo soy Colombiana y Dominicana.

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Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
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posted July 19, 2013 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
Nope. Not online, but very close in the spiritual aspect of it.
I'll give you this, we met in school.

Anything else you get from it?


Ooh, I love a mystery, thank you LL! I'm going to keep coming back and bugging you because I've been craving honest feedback.

(What would you like to be called, may I ask?)

School could make sense because of the Virgo being all about details, day to day life, service etc.

Was it high school or grades below because of the heavy Mercury? Mercury ruling habitual thought instead of the higher mind that Jupiter rules?

Was it a religious school? *surprised face*

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posted July 19, 2013 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can call me Lies or Lilith.
I don't mind being bothered ^.^

We met at high school, we are both still in high school.
Ha! We aren't of the same religion! lol

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posted July 19, 2013 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awesome, thank you Lilith! (That name is so exotic. )

This is the last time I'm going to be so aggressive about this but seriously, thank you for doing this!

Now, you met at school and the Descendant is in Virgo. If the Ascendant is how you are together, as one, the Descendant is how you relate out there, which would also explain your meeting place. Unless someone can explain to me another way to delineate that (which I would love if you have a theory!)

With Saturn sitting right on the Ascendant, is this a very stable, duty bound relationship? It also could mean that there was trouble getting the relationship off the ground, barriers in the way or delay. That's usually how Saturn is explained in the 1st in Composite. Was this true for you?

The Sun conjunct Mercury and Mars. Mars is ruling your 1st. You put a lot of action into your spiritual connection. It could be hard to be aggressive together though or maybe you try to suppress your anger as a couple?

With Mars also ruling your 8th, do you keep your discussions private and/or are they about psychology or hidden, occult things? Oh... do you do something spiritual together, like occult, dream symbology, chakra work, meditation, etc?

Does your relationship focus on the pain that you both have experienced or do you address the pain of others? With Chiron sitting in the 7th.

Your friendship is stable because the 11th House cusp is in Capricorn with Saturn sitting on the Ascendant, is this true?

Venus is in the 1st in Taurus which rules the 2nd House of self-worth. Your self-worth is very stable together and you may enhance each other's self-worth? Like you could have a bad day and then the other person stabilizes you?

Is there an emotional need for communication with your Moon sitting in the 3rd? Your 4th and 5th House cusps are sitting in Cancer. Do you discuss your past, your family, your inner selves easily and express yourselves by being nurturing through communication?

I know that's a lot. I'm sorry!

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posted July 19, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My theory on composite Descendant is that it is how we interact together with everyone else, and ascendant is how we might seem to others.

I guess you could say there was a delay getting the friendship completely off the ground. We both had different groups that we both interacted with. She and I have kept in contact here and then, but even if we spend less time together or more, our friendship is still the same.

We get angry at the same things, I don't really get angry at her, even i someone told me something she might have done... I'm not sure if she gets angry at me. We are pretty mellow I guess. We sort of have a psychic connection and delve into similar occult talk.
We actually might have been sisters in a past life, and also friends in previous others.
She is psychic, while I am intuitive.
I think we keep our conversations somewhat private. I keep her secrets, and she keeps mine.
A little of both when it comes to pain. We rarely talk about it though, but I feel comfortable enough to talk to her about my pain and I would never judge her about hers.

Everytime she happens to be angry or upset, i end up calling her and try to get her to calm down. I try and stabilize her.
Yes, I feel like it's a nurturing communication between us.

No! It's ok! I don't mind!

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posted July 19, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thanks for all the feedback!!

I'm wondering how your Jupiter plays out. It's ruling that 9th House and the 1st House (traditionally ruler of Pisces) and it sits in the 10th House.

Does this say that you're mainly together when out in public, not having much time alone?

I would see this as you strive to be spiritual and wise together, maybe broadening each other's horizons, bringing the other new information.

Do you think that other people see your friendship as stable (Capricorn) but also somehow expansive/fun-loving/jovial?

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posted July 19, 2013 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Wow, thanks for all the feedback!!

I'm wondering how your Jupiter plays out. It's ruling that 9th House and the 1st House (traditionally ruler of Pisces) and it sits in the 10th House.

Does this say that you're mainly together when out in public, not having much time alone?

I would see this as you strive to be spiritual and wise together, maybe broadening each other's horizons, bringing the other new information.

Do you think that other people see your friendship as stable (Capricorn) but also somehow expansive/fun-loving/jovial?


Yeah, i could say mainly out in public or in each other's home, rarely alone.

We do bring in new information to each other and have somewhat similar humor.

Honestly, I wouldn't really know what people think of our friendship. There was one moment, when a person I knew, asked why I was so easily open with my friend(the one in the composite) and not her.

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posted July 19, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elizabeth Taylor an Richard Burton's had pluto in the 8th house composite

Pluto in the 8th house of a composite is a deep, sexual and spiritual bond. Sex is not superficial it is deep and transcendental. Pluto isn't about the light and fluffy experience. He loves to pit himself against every odd and overcome it. He is a formidable force of getting down and dirty in a effort to get the truth. The 8th house is a powerful psychological house that requires the demolition of the old and building a new "to be re-born" into a much better version of YOU. The 8th house involves all sorts of dark topics like, Sex, death,and money. This is usually money received from not so nice means. It's the money you get from a death called inheritance, it's the money of a Sugar Daddy, that always comes with a price, it is also the tax collector, and where you need to pay the piper. It is also the house of trauma, karma, and unexplained forces that feel like fate. It's the house of deep change through powerful experience. This is the house of extremes.


"Pluto is the higher octave of mars, he represents total fixed and obsessive energy that is in search of transformation, through "intense experience."

In a composite Pluto in the 8th house is where the two of you together, obsess, probe, and experience deep bonding and transformation.

Communication of Secrets, Purging and healing

You are likely to discuss very heavy subjects, all the things are are normally hidden come to the surface easily and without hesitation. You will explore each other's psyche in hopes to gain a deeper understanding each of you really are. This is the part of our inner psyche that we have experienced the harsh realities that were life altering in some way. Our family secrets, sexual secrets, taboos, and unexplained supernatural occurrences. Pluto in the 8th of the composite allows both individuals to purge themselves of their secrets to each other which allows for deep healing. To be able to be so open with someone, whether consciously or unconsciously, is such a liberating feeling and one of the best healers around. To be loved unconditionally, To be accepted for who you are and understood for what you have been through, is immeasurable.

Sex

Sex in this house covers a lot of different sex, from the obsessive to the taboo, it's not really the romantic, love making, light and fluffy sex that the 5th house offers. It's aggressive and primal and all encompassing.

There can be outside circumstances that test the two of you on a sexual level as well since Pluto is about finding the "truth". You may face sexual problems together such as temporary impotence, or other possible sexual disorders that you would both need to overcome. Pluto is obsession so sexual obsession is common, however it is not the compulsive kind that Pluto typically is responsible for. When Pluto is in his own house he tends to operate differently. Sex is a force that drives the couple, You are much more open with each other sexually and can spend much of your sexual energy exploring each other's body, just as much as the actual sex act itself. Exploring each other's likes and dislikes are very comfortable for the couple. It is as if you are both naked in each other's eyes , there are no secrets, lies or shame.

Money

Money will be of importance and together you have a strong ability to draw in money from other's so this is a very good placement to start a business. However this is not a mere business relationship this is a empowering relationship. The blending of resources to empower yourselves is part of the agenda for Pluto in this house. You will both be a force to reckon with when it comes to you achieving your goals as a team. Other's will take notice and probably invest in any business venture you decide to begin. Money will be your driving force, you will either love it and become obsessed with it, or you will hate it. This is the house of extremes remember??


http://illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2012/06/composite-pluto-in-8th-house.html?m=1


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posted July 19, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Elizabeth Taylor an Richard Burton's had pluto in the 8th house composite

Pluto in the 8th house of a composite is a deep, sexual and spiritual bond. Sex is not superficial it is deep and transcendental. Pluto isn't about the light and fluffy experience. He loves to pit himself against every odd and overcome it. He is a formidable force of getting down and dirty in a effort to get the truth. The 8th house is a powerful psychological house that requires the demolition of the old and building a new "to be re-born" into a much better version of YOU. The 8th house involves all sorts of dark topics like, Sex, death,and money. This is usually money received from not so nice means. It's the money you get from a death called inheritance, it's the money of a Sugar Daddy, that always comes with a price, it is also the tax collector, and where you need to pay the piper. It is also the house of trauma, karma, and unexplained forces that feel like fate. It's the house of deep change through powerful experience. This is the house of extremes.


"Pluto is the higher octave of mars, he represents total fixed and obsessive energy that is in search of transformation, through "intense experience."

In a composite Pluto in the 8th house is where the two of you together, obsess, probe, and experience deep bonding and transformation.

Communication of Secrets, Purging and healing

You are likely to discuss very heavy subjects, all the things are are normally hidden come to the surface easily and without hesitation. You will explore each other's psyche in hopes to gain a deeper understanding each of you really are. This is the part of our inner psyche that we have experienced the harsh realities that were life altering in some way. Our family secrets, sexual secrets, taboos, and unexplained supernatural occurrences. Pluto in the 8th of the composite allows both individuals to purge themselves of their secrets to each other which allows for deep healing. To be able to be so open with someone, whether consciously or unconsciously, is such a liberating feeling and one of the best healers around. To be loved unconditionally, To be accepted for who you are and understood for what you have been through, is immeasurable.

Sex

Sex in this house covers a lot of different sex, from the obsessive to the taboo, it's not really the romantic, love making, light and fluffy sex that the 5th house offers. It's aggressive and primal and all encompassing.

There can be outside circumstances that test the two of you on a sexual level as well since Pluto is about finding the "truth". You may face sexual problems together such as temporary impotence, or other possible sexual disorders that you would both need to overcome. Pluto is obsession so sexual obsession is common, however it is not the compulsive kind that Pluto typically is responsible for. When Pluto is in his own house he tends to operate differently. Sex is a force that drives the couple, You are much more open with each other sexually and can spend much of your sexual energy exploring each other's body, just as much as the actual sex act itself. Exploring each other's likes and dislikes are very comfortable for the couple. It is as if you are both naked in each other's eyes , there are no secrets, lies or shame.

Money

Money will be of importance and together you have a strong ability to draw in money from other's so this is a very good placement to start a business. However this is not a mere business relationship this is a empowering relationship. The blending of resources to empower yourselves is part of the agenda for Pluto in this house. You will both be a force to reckon with when it comes to you achieving your goals as a team. Other's will take notice and probably invest in any business venture you decide to begin. Money will be your driving force, you will either love it and become obsessed with it, or you will hate it. This is the house of extremes remember??


http://illumeastrology.blogspot.com/2012/06/composite-pluto-in-8th-house.html?m=1


I don't really see any big Plutonian influence on our friendship, but we easily talk about heavy things, or refrain from it all together.

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posted July 20, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto moves slowly. Just wait. You will see.


That's the first time I have ever seen that in lindaland besides me.


I usually posted me born in New York and him being born in santo Domingo. My daughters father.


That's over with though.


Can u post your synastry charts?


Ella Es Dominicana tan bien?

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posted July 20, 2013 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LiesLilithsaidtouranus:
Yeah, i could say mainly out in public or in each other's home, rarely alone.

We do bring in new information to each other and have somewhat similar humor.

Honestly, I wouldn't really know what people think of our friendship. There was one moment, when a person I knew, asked why I was so easily open with my friend(the one in the composite) and not her.


Oh I see. Hm. . .we'd have to look at your other friend and your composite chart to see why you're more open. It could just be because of that Sun/Mercury/Mars conjunction though. The Sun shining a light on communication and how you both interact with the world. Also Synastry of course!

Well, I have to say that I am so appreciative of the time you've spent answering me. Thank you so much Lilith, you're such a sweetheart!

At some point I'd love to get a thread going where anyone can post a composite and then we have to guess how they met. Getting practical hands on experience with Astrology like that would be awesome!

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I think you should look at the ASC ruler to get an idea of how the two people met.

What I notice here is that ASC is in Pisces, and ruler Neptune conjuncts Uranus in the 11th - groups, social circles.

It doesn't really work all the time..
But sometimes it gives some clues.

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posted July 20, 2013 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

I was wondering if the Davison could explain how the two people come together?

There is a difference between the Composite and Davison but really what they both embody, I'm not sure. What do you think Doux?

Do you think you could put up the Davison for both of you Lilith, please?

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posted July 20, 2013 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
Pluto moves slowly. Just wait. You will see.


That's the first time I have ever seen that in lindaland besides me.


I usually posted me born in New York and him being born in santo Domingo. My daughters father.


That's over with though.


Can u post your synastry charts?


Ella Es Dominicana tan bien?


No, no es Dominicana.
I will post the synastry chart in a bit.

I say Pluto isn't really influenced between us because I personally just don't feel it's influence on me. You will probably see why in the synastry.

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posted July 20, 2013 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@MsPrism
I was just about to say you should make a thread on Personal readings about that!
@Doux
Is there a rule about the first meeting when in comes to composites? I think it might just depend on the couple.

I've already looked up at a lot of things between us, especially in our synastry and found it so funny how you guys could make sense of the same things that play out in the synastry without having a look at it. I'll post the Davidson and synastry in a bit.

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posted July 20, 2013 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Davidson chart

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posted July 20, 2013 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awe, thank you so much Lilith!

I'll have to think about starting that Davison/Composite thread, mhm!

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posted July 20, 2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem!
The Davidson is so creepy to me though, lol
In Draconic astrology she and I have both moon in Scorpio, which is our Davidson moon o,0

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