posted July 27, 2013 08:08 AM            

for eg i have a loose moon trine saturn that i feel far more than an extremely tight mercury conjunct uranus- it could be im not fully aware of the meaning behind the mercury uranus conjunction as my knowledge of astrology is not perfect but could it also be that the degrees are not necessarily what determines how powerful an aspect is?

posted July 27, 2013 08:35 AM            

However, if you feel that Moon-SAturn-trine more acutely there will be different things in play that make it more dominant in your case. (well Moon is always a dominant factor anyway).

Midpoints, declinations and progressions for instance.

It could also be that others will see your Mercury-Uranus quite clearly, while you maybe don`t see it as much yourself.

Also planets in the angles seem to be more noteable

There could be other Moon-SAturn-factors as well. Moon in Capricorn, Saturn in Cancer, Moon in 10th house, Saturn in 4th house or aspecting these houses, MC in Cancer, IC in Capricorn and so on.

posted July 27, 2013 08:37 AM            

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posted July 27, 2013 08:39 AM            

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Originally posted by sharpei:
i always hear people mention how tight the aspect is in influencing how much you feel it in both natal and synastry but is that always true?

for eg i have a loose moon trine saturn that i feel far more than an extremely tight mercury conjunct uranus- it could be im not fully aware of the meaning behind the mercury uranus conjunction as my knowledge of astrology is not perfect but could it also be that the degrees are not necessarily what determines how powerful an aspect is?

and what about in synastry? what about looser aspects of 5-7 degrees compared to the tighter aspects of 0-1 degrees?

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posted July 27, 2013 08:44 AM            

What if almost all my planets are on my angles?

venus,saturn,sun,mercury on H7.Cancer

Moon in cancer

posted July 27, 2013 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
@Ceri

What if almost all my planets are on my angles?

venus,saturn,sun,mercury on H7.Cancer

Moon in cancer

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The ones in conjunction to the angular cusp are the strongest. If there are many, well then you simply have many planets taking centre stage.

posted July 27, 2013 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I can feel my wide aspects just as strongly as the ones that are tight.

I think aspects to the Luminaries are strongly felt even at a wide orb (but still a reasonable orb, for example I don't pay much attention to trines that are wider than 6°).

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REally, you only go up to 6 degrees for Luminaries. What about conjunctions?

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posted July 27, 2013 09:19 AM            

Conjunctions / oppositions - 8°.
Squares - 6-7°.
Trines - 5-6°.
Sextiles - 4-5°.

posted July 27, 2013 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what do you mean by angular cusp ceri? you mean planets closer to the DSC?

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posted July 27, 2013 09:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

I think aspects to the Luminaries are strongly felt even at a wide orb (but still a reasonable orb, for example I don't pay much attention to trines that are wider than 6°).

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Well, you already use a reasonable tight orb. 6 degrees is my limit as well.

And no I don`t use a 12 degree orb for trines to the luminaries.
And if someone sais they feel them just as strongly, I will not say a word (most of the time), but honestly, I don´t believe it is really that wide aspect they are feeling.

Yes, I know I have no right to say that, and noone can tell anyone how or what or why they are feeling something, but I just don´t believe it.

I am not saying that to start an argument here, and yes, I hear someone thinking: "What do I care what she believes or not?" and they are perfectly right thinking that), but I just wanted to state my conviction on this once.

(I have my reasons for using a 6 degree orb and not a 4 degree one or 7 degree one btw; but I admit that noone else needs to follow this reasoning; it is just that this is what makes the most sense to me, and is in agreement with how I see astrology, it is astrological to me. But yes, of course others can have different opinions).

End of ranting/ babbling.

posted July 27, 2013 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what do you mean by angular cusp ceri? you mean planets closer to the DSC?

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posted July 27, 2013 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh! Ami, I meant for trines!

Conjunctions / oppositions - 8°.
Squares - 6-7°.
Trines - 5-6°.
Sextiles - 4-5°.

Those are the *maximum* orbs I use.
I pay attention to conjunctions / oppositions with a 9° orb only if they involve a Luminary, but don't consider them too important.

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Yes, those would be mine preferred orbs, too. My guideline is 6 degrees as I said, but I will keep an eye on slightly wider aspects, too.
9 degrees would be pushing it too far in my opinion.

But orbs do not really work like a switch (on-off); they come into awareness, get stronger and then slowly fade into the background, until they are mere backgroundnoise and simply having the quality of the signbackground, but not the energy of an actual aspect anymore.

If I am mentioning these 6 degree orbs, I think that up to this orb, the aspects are intense enough to come to awareness; the wider the orb, the less intensity and energy an aspect provides, the less inescapable it becomes, and instead becomes more subtle.

posted August 02, 2013 08:26 AM            

Try looking at your 2014 transits and watch the combinations to your M and to your SA, then see if something to NP is at play.

http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting#!in-the-closet-astro-tools/c1s43

posted August 02, 2013 09:32 AM            

I agree with you.

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orbs do not really work like a switch (on-off); they come into awareness, get stronger and then slowly fade into the background

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posted August 02, 2013 11:27 AM            

I think wide orbs give the energy room to breathe, it's not as potent like tight orbs which can be difficult at times.

posted August 03, 2013 11:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I do feel trines that are 8 orbs or so, and while some hobbyists feel it is too wide most of the astrological community do count them.

I think wide orbs give the energy room to breathe, it's not as potent like tight orbs which can be difficult at times.

Someone with moon conjunct neptune exact is completely in his own world with no concept of reality. I know someone with moon conjunct neptune 9 degrees has a beautiful imagination and impressive creativity but is not as deluded.
So it's more balanced imo.

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that is a really interesting way of seeing it actually- i feel that about my mars venus conjunction its i think about 9 degrees and a sign apart but hmm well its there at least, venus i guess likes to be admired from afar....

posted August 03, 2013 05:37 PM            

Like if you have a tight Venus/Pluto conjunct in synastry, but venus's is squared in natal by Saturn and Pluto is squared by mars in natal. But you have sun moon trine in synastry widely and each have only trines and sextiles natally...maybe than its more powerful. Just a thought.

I think the planets themselves make a difference too. You might notice a hard Saturn aspect more than a flowing Jupiter/venus aspect. Because we are more likely to notice oppression than we are likely no notice enhancements.