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Topic: Current Astrology Fails to take into account of life experiences
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CapricornDog Newflake Posts: 5 From: Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 30, 2013 04:53 PM
I notice so many professional astrologers and astrology enthusiasts I've come across on many sites I've lurked on including this site act treat the natal chart as though its a personality created right at birth. That once a person takes his first breath, his personality is already set in stone.I honestly believe that modern systems of astrology really have to begin incorporating the past history of a person to truly get an accurate personality profile. To use an example I knew this guy back in high school who was a douchebag. If you knew the guy, his personality would have seemed like a macho tough guy, the classic Aries man minus the bragging and open aggression. He got into a fights and other trouble and his parents were even worried about him getting expelled or even going into prison. He wore tattoos and mouth rings and other stuff that would give you the impression this guy was in a gang. I recently just saw this guy again and HE no longer dresses up this way. If anything from what I seen he becomes like the classic Capricorn man in the way he dresses: Someone who at the very least gives off the impression that he is a responsible person. I recently found out he joined the army after high school and he now has a son. He said in a conversation I saw he him having with friends years ago he really did seem like he was going to be locked up but after joining the army he finally made a future for himself. He no longer gets into trouble and has matured into a family man. I recently learned he was a CAPRICORN. This is amusing because he seemed more Aries when I knew him back in high school. Granted I don't know the rest of his chart and its possible he may have Aries as his Ascendant, but he was so immature when I knew him years ago. I can't help but think joining the Army and later having a son activated the Capricorn personality within him. Because he was probably the least Capricornish Capricorn you'd ever meet if you knew him in high school. I will use myself as an example. Its a really complex one but I'll keep it simple. I was the classic Pisces man in every way in my late high school years and early adult years. As in I was in an escapist world, I was indulgent, I was lazy, and every other negative traits related to Pisces. With a strong touch of Scorpio like self-centered personality, tendency to use physical violence esp. when bullied, and a perverse fascination with war and militarism. Actually I even think my Piscean traits in those years were activated because of both being a Scorpio dominant and having Scorpio Ascendant: I WANTED to join the military and become a career soldier. When I learned in my late high school years I would immediately be disqualified because of a host of conditions, I was seriously hurt. So hurt I stopped taking life seriously. I felt it was better I just died than lived on this earth because no amount of wealth and good life would make up for the fact that I'm a failure because I couldn't join the ranks of courageous war heroes like Audie Murphy and Marcel Bigeard. I stopped taking life seriously and just slacked off being addicted to gaming addict, becoming fat (even though I lost some weight), and flunking in personal responsibilities like college and hygiene. My family suffered as a result;prior to realizing the DQs, I already had vicious fights against my family in regards to joining the military (which my parents were against). Back in 2012 however I learned the realities of the military. Most soldiers who joined don't do so out of civic reasons but because they couldn't find jobs elsewhere, they needed the GI bill for college, or to avoid a prison sentence. There is so much incompetence and corruption within the military esp. among the high ranks and the low ranks are suffering as a result (men even get KILLED in Iraq and Afghanistan because of the incompetence of high ranks!!!!!!). There's so much stupidities and abuses in the military my worship for soldiers basically was shattered and so was my view of the world and life. I quickly lost my Piscean beliefs and view of the world sand my Piscean bad habits were gradually lost. Oddly my life reversed for the better. I became skinnier and now am on my way to getting an athlete's build. I'm not indulgent like I used to be and my personality is much more hardworking. More life experiences that shattered my world view this summer even made me more and more Scorpionic and even made more Capricorn. I'll leave it here but I can't help but think being rejected by the military activated the Pisces traits. Having my idealistic view of the military shattered gradually molded me into a Scorpio personality at the core and even added Capricorn traits. When I learned the realities of the military I was like "**** I can't believe I WANTED to join this corrupt institution??!!!!" and suddenly I felt a burden on myself that made me feel so weak and Piscean energy was just lifted and all the Scorpio energy started just joining in. I really do believe had I not had DQs and had I joined the military I would never have become the Piscean personality I was. I would have immediately transitioned into a Scorpio personality had I seen all the corruption in the armed forces had I been able to serve and it wouldn't have taken me 5 years gain the legendary Scorpio willpower and self-discipline and the traits of both my Scorpio dominated chart and Scorpio Ascendant would have been readily apparent as intrinsic elements of my personality. So I really feel a flaw of current western astrology is that it acts like every things all based on the person's natal charts.
Nevermind the fact most astrologers never hae an interview asking about a client's personal life. **** most hobbyists into astrology don't even LOOK at their own past events and recent life-shattering to look for explanations why their personality (or at least elements of it) is very different from what their natal chart states IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 4459 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 05:11 PM
I didn't read everything, but progressions and transits should be taken into account as well.Edit: Okay, I read it all, so yea. I have been learning more about Vedic astrology and find that to be much more fitting with my natal chart. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 2490 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted July 30, 2013 05:16 PM
PiscesAdonis?IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 494 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 30, 2013 05:23 PM
Thank you for sharing such an in depth story! Though I do think that Western Astrology doesn't seem to be as tight a method as Eastern Astrology, I definitely could see how your progressed chart and transits could bring up the experiences you've had. Astrology books, the non-cookbook ones, are very explanatory when it comes to big transformations and lifestyle shifts. Those are usually the more solid predictions because the slower moving planets make such an impact on our angles and inner planets. You would have to post your own natal chart in the Personal Reading section for us to answer this fully, unless you can get away with just posting it in here for a study to be done. It's up to you in the end. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3265 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 30, 2013 08:44 PM
Hello CapricornDog! Welcome to LL ------------------ "For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2367 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: PiscesAdonis?
(I got that exact same impression.) IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 09:08 PM
Ew, he's back...IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 3690 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 09:12 PM
I'll take him over chirp/textbook lmfao.She'll be back soon....Round 3 should be interesting. What is your solution OP?
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 09:19 PM
Chirp, Textbook, StacyLewis...that WAS round 3 lmao! How you enjoying working at Walmart, Kerosene? IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2367 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 09:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: She'll be back soon....Round 3 should be interesting.
she's had (has) more than 3 handles here. I reckon her next incarnation will be about the 6-7th. I think we're due for a return of everyone's favourite Leo Sun Scorpio Moon, PFG (PiscesFishGoddess) or whichever new handle he thinks up to go with the previous 4. Yay for people with way too much time on their hands. <3 IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 09:42 PM
^Notice how all these people are Leo influenced...?Mothy please! Protect me from these immature lions! IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 2490 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted July 30, 2013 09:46 PM
I like being Aquarius influenced, personally. Me and these LEO influenced people dont get along. :lol:IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:07 PM
I was getting bored, you came at the right time.IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:16 PM
^I was about to call to you. "Hey nymi ur Pisces brother is back!" IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 494 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 30, 2013 10:22 PM
Whoa! How do you know it's him? Did he always talk about the military in the past S.E.? IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:25 PM
Lol! You should have seen what he would say..."I have a Scorpio AC so I'm very masculine, powerful, and obsessed with war. People ban me from websites all the time because I'm very violent. Scorpio is the most violent and masculine sign. I'm not a weak Pisces at all." IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:25 PM
^^ But his name is Capricorn Dog?I wonder why, shouldn’t it be ScorpioASC(Time:unknown) ? but I won’t bother my dear brother with ascendant known but time unknown this time, I want some entertainment. I would’ve loved to see Hannieboo interacting with him. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2930 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:27 PM
LIBRA is the most powerful sign in the zodiac. EVERY LIBRA KNOWS!IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:30 PM
^^ But aren’t you a Virgo or did you transform into Libra similar to OP’s friend and OP’s “transformation”?IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2930 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: ^^ But aren’t you a Virgo or did you transform into Libra similar to OP’s friend and OP’s “transformation”?
Sssshhhhhhh I am LIBRA now. I am no longer influenced by WEAK inferior Virgo! IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:34 PM
LMAOOOO...IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:36 PM
^^ But my Pisces sun is strong,not weak, should I transform into Scorpio SSS? my Gemini moon can’t decide. Oh never mind, you’re a libra, not gonna ask you. Should I transform SE? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2930 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:36 PM
I'M SERIOUSIP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 494 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 30, 2013 10:37 PM
Wait, hold on just one second there SSS!I'M AN ARIES AND I'M THE GOD OF WAR! Is this called enabling? IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1934 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 30, 2013 10:40 PM
No! I like ooey gooey Pisces. Scorpio is #overrated. Actually, I think you should become a manly Cancer. No one walks over manly Cancer! quote: Oh never mind, you’re a libra, not gonna ask you.
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