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Topic: How do YOU go about interpreting natals?
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Jkitty
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From: an oasis in the desert
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted July 31, 2013 06:46 PM
  
What do you check first, second, next, etc? Elements/Modes? Hemisphere emphasis? Quadrants? Aspect patterns? And how do you synthesize it all to get a 3-dimensional person/life from the chart?I'm especially interested in hearing from more experienced astrologers, those who've gotten away from looking up aspects and references. Curious minds want to know! IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted July 31, 2013 06:57 PM
I like to find dominants first. Other things I personally like to look at: critical degrees, dispositors/dosposition chains, minor aspects, and singletons or voids. But I always start with most influential element, sign, and planet(s). Aspects come later, but I like to look at tighter aspects first.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted July 31, 2013 07:49 PM
First, I look at the general pattern in the chart, to get an idea of how the person uses their energy - is it quite focused, or more scattered? Then I look at elements to get an idea of the person's temperament and natural inclinations - are they firey, airy, watery or earthy?
Lack of an element is a biggie, too. Then I look at aspects - I pay attention to hard aspects first - conjunctions, oppositions and squares, to see what areas of life may be difficult and why, and then I check houses to see where the tension is more likely to manifest, and finally I check flowing aspects to see how the conflict can be relieved, or what areas of life flow naturally. For a deeper analysis, I check some asteroids (mainly Chiron) and minor aspects (quincunx, semisquare), and of course the Nodes, to see where the person may encounter drawbacks and what they should do in order to evolve. The angles and their rulers are quite important, especially the chart ruler; they all show how we experience life and our reaction to events. Sometimes I check the Lunar phases but I'm not quite sure how accurate they are, yet.
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somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 1973
From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
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posted July 31, 2013 07:58 PM
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Lack of an element is a biggie, too.
Oh yeah this too! I like to look at singletons and elemental voids. Editing that into my original post.  IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted July 31, 2013 08:21 PM
How would the lack of an element manifest, say air void for example? I'm really balanced in my chart (if you count just planets, luminaries and ascendant then - 2F, 3A, 3E, 3W - so I don't have any personal experience with this to draw on. The only person in my family who has an elemental void was my mom with no earth and she's not around any more to ask.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted August 01, 2013 08:23 AM
The way I see it, when there's an elemental void in a natal chart, the person has a hard time accessing the qualities associated with said element.
Sometimes they develop those traits and overcompensate.I've read that people with an elemental void keep attracting situations or people that somehow "fulfill" their missing element, which makes total sense.
A lot of times Air voids are attracted to Airy people, or they attract them. Someone with an Air void could be quite instinctive and emotional, "primal" in the sense that they'd have a hard time detaching and seeing a situation objectively.
Their communication / people skills can be quite poor so they learn to better communicate during their life, and may have a deep thirst for knowledge and everything Airy (that allows them to fill the Air void). IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted August 01, 2013 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The way I see it, when there's an elemental void in a natal chart, the person has a hard time accessing the qualities associated with said element.
Sometimes they develop those traits and overcompensate.
That totally makes sense. It explains why I was so surprised to find my mom was lacking earth (she seemed to go the overcomp route) and why she married a Cappy.
Would having planets in the house that is naturally ruled by that element (or not) help them compensate for the element (or make it harder to access those qualities if they're void by house as well)? In other words, is there a principle behind which is more likely to occur, overcomp or difficulty? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted August 01, 2013 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Would having planets in the house that is naturally ruled by that element (or not) help them compensate for the element (or make it harder to access those qualities if they're void by house as well)?
I think so, especially with planets in the 1st. quote:
In other words, is there a principle behind which is more likely to occur, overcomp or difficulty?
I don't know about that.
I have a Fire void and I definitely don't overcompensate.
But my Fire houses only have Uranus / Neptune (9th) and Moon in the 5th. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted August 01, 2013 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
I don't know about that.
I have a Fire void and I definitely don't overcompensate.
But my Fire houses only have Uranus / Neptune (9th) and Moon in the 5th.
Hmmm. If a luminary doesn't do it, then I guess probably not? Unless . . . perhaps only when it's personal AND in a cardinal house? 1st could compensate for fire, 4th could compensate for water, 7th could compensate for air and 10th could compensate for earth? LOL I'm probably reaching here and it probably matters on which planet. Somehow I can't imagine Saturn in the 7th helping an Air void compensate! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 02, 2013 12:12 PM
I`d rather say, a dominant Moon or Neptune could compensate for lack of water a dominant Mercury or Uranus for air a dominant Saturn for earth a dominant Mars or Jupiter for fire Or maybe not. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 02, 2013 12:26 PM
as for I go about natals, well, I am always refining and adjusting my approach, so it is always just the approach "of the moment".
A OVERVIEW
1) hemispheres
2) elements
3) personal-social-universal signs/houses
4) chartpattern (plus noting any kind of disbalance here, lack of element for example).
B DOMINANT FEATURES
a) planets tightly conjunct angles b) singletons
- by hemisphere
- by element
- by sign - or housetype c) unaspected planets C condition of the LUMINARIES
- sign and houseplacements, rulership
- aspects
- Sun/Moon-mp D ASPECTPATTERNS
especially involving dominant planets and the angles (I always take the rulerships of planets into account, too) E IDENTITY and SELFPRESENTATIOn the interrelating between Sun, ASC, MC, Moon, and Mercury After that it gets a little fuzzy (and I still have to refine it further) F RELATING and the SELF Venus - Mars
(as relationship AND as identity-planet) 7th - 1st
8th - 2nd
5th - 11th
G the anchoring in the world (lifepath, goals, parental axis, and all that stuff)
Moon - Saturn
4th - 10th
H "Issues"
challenging aspects of Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto to the luminaries, angles, Venus or Mars (possibly also houserulers)
I Nodal axis
But as I said further refinement of the method is needed IP: Logged | |
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