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sillyme
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posted August 01, 2013 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ASC semi-sextile Neptune exact
Sun square Neptune 4 deg
Moon quindecile Neptune exact
Mercury sextile Neptune exact
Venus semi-square Neptune exact
Neptune in 12th house.

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posted August 01, 2013 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Post the whole chart. What I'm seeing isn't swaying me to call them Neptunian, though it seems to be a moderate influence.

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posted August 01, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look for Neptune conjunct the Asc.
Neptune in aspect to the Sun and or Moon
Pisces Asc.
or...The ruler of the Ascendant conjunct Neptune.

do you have any of these?

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posted August 01, 2013 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Look for Neptune conjunct the Asc.
Neptune in aspect to the Sun and or Moon
Pisces Asc.
or...The ruler of the Ascendant conjunct Neptune.

do you have any of these?


What about the Chart Ruler in Pisces or the 12th? I think that could qualify as well.

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sillyme
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posted August 01, 2013 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sillyme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the aspects I have listed,

Neptune is in aspect to ASC,Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus.................mars is the only personal planet not in aspect to Neptune...

That's why I asked.

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posted August 01, 2013 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes! absolutely jkitty

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posted August 01, 2013 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really picky about the outer planets.
I like to see them:

Conjunct or opposite the ascendant
Conjunct or opposite the sun or moon
Conjunct or opposite the chart ruler.

If any of these occur, or all three, I call the person who has them: Neptunian, Uranian, Plutonian, depending on which one it is. If it's more than one, they can be Neptunian/Uranian, etc, like with me

I don't go by signs because each sign has a traditional ruler.

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posted August 01, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I am really picky about the outer planets.
I like to see them:

Conjunct or opposite the ascendant
Conjunct or opposite the sun or moon
Conjunct or opposite the chart ruler.

If any of these occur, or all three, I call the person who has them: Neptunian, Uranian, Plutonian, depending on which one it is. If it's more than one, they can be Neptunian/Uranian, etc, like with me

I don't go by signs because each sign has a traditional ruler.


I think you need to look at the overall picture. I have Neptune in my 1st, on my Antivertex with an orb of only 7 minutes, at the point of a fixed-cardinal T-square that includes my Sun and Moon, squaring my Sun with an orb of only 14 minutes, and my Chart Ruler is in Pisces. I don't meet any of the qualifications you listed, BUT I DEFINATELY consider myself to be Neptunian. (That's probably why I seem to attract so many cats )

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posted August 01, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I think you need to look at the overall picture. I have Neptune in my 1st, on my Antivertex with an orb of only 7 minutes, at the point of a fixed-cardinal T-square that includes my Sun and Moon, squaring my Sun with an orb of only 14 minutes, and my Chart Ruler is in Pisces. I don't meet any of the qualifications you listed, BUT I DEFINATELY consider myself to be Neptunian. (That's probably why I seem to attract so many cats )

I don't get the impression you are that Neptunian. You seem pretty grounded and down to earth to me and you don't talk about Neptunian events occurring in your life online. I am looking through the lens of my laptop though.
Being a Piscean isn't the same as being a Neptunian. Jupiter has a lot of influence over Pisces.

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posted August 01, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Being a Piscean isn't the same as being a Neptunian.

Hmmm, what's the difference between being Piscean and being Neptunian? I only have one planet in Pisces (my Chart Ruler) and nothing in the 12th. I don't really relate at all to being Pisces, but that Neptune dude seems to be on my back 24-7!

I think my "on-line" presence seems "grounded" because I'm communicating (3rd house) and I've got Sagittarius on that cusp; Jupiter is on my IC and conjunct Saturn with an orb of only 2 degrees. Perhaps that's why my communication seems grounded? But honestly if you were to meet me in person or see me on stage? Total chameleon! You'd never be able to guess what I'm really like unless I let you get close.

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posted August 01, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Hmmm, what's the difference between being Piscean and being Neptunian? I only have one planet in Pisces (my Chart Ruler) and nothing in the 12th. I don't really relate at all to being Pisces, but that Neptune dude seems to be on my back 24-7!

Pisces isn't necessarily Neptunian because this sign can send out quite normal vibes to others, while people with these Neptune contacts have trouble with that...all of them I encounter, including myself, do. We can find each other and get along, sometimes not. With Neptune, you never know what tomorrow is going to bring.
How does Neptune show up in your life? You don't seem fuzzy in any way, have a good grasp on the details. Maybe it's like you said, Neptune is concealing your Neptunian self so no one knows haha except when they get closer. Typical Neptune! Neptune is always messing with me. Weird stuff happens to me all the time. That's why I think I am a total Neptunian, through the opposition with the moon. My friends and mom are this way too, One has a sun/Neptune conjunction, my mom and other has moon/Neptune conjunct. The guy I worshiped had sun opposite Neptune. I like to worship certain Neptunians, but not every Neptunian. They are just kinda wacky, in a strange way. It's that Neptune vibe, can't really explain it. Others pick up on it. It's either there or it isn't. Plus, the Neptune events happen in our lives, each of us have brushes with Neptune.

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think my "on-line" presence seems "grounded" because I'm communicating (3rd house) and I've got Sagittarius on that cusp; Jupiter is on my IC and conjunct Saturn with an orb of only 2 degrees. Perhaps that's why my communication seems grounded? But honestly if you were to meet me in person or see me on stage? Total chameleon! You'd never be able to guess what I'm really like unless I let you get close.

Maybe, but you seem pretty realistic and like you have it together. Everyone I know with Neptune is experiencing some sort of heavy existential crises in their lives on a daily basis. They worry constantly, no joke. I have tamed my worry some and found my inner zen only because I contemplated and studied. I learned how to deal with the weird vibe. Just space out.
I picture a light switch and flip it, then stop thinking.

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posted August 01, 2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Maybe, but you seem pretty realistic and like you have it together. Everyone I know with Neptune is experiencing some sort of heavy existential crises in their lives on a daily basis. They worry constantly, no joke. I have tamed my worry some and found my inner zen only because I contemplated and studied. I learned how to deal with the weird vibe. Just space out.
I picture a light switch and flip it, then stop thinking.

That is probably the result of my "advanced age and life experience" compared to most of the posters on this site! Have you and those others had your Saturn return yet? It helps to focus on the positive and CONCRETE Neptune things (music, drama, art). It's like putting Neptune in a play pen and keeping him occupied with his favorite toys so he can't cause you any mischief.

Incidently, I don't see worry as being Neptune AT ALL. Neptune will give you the false idea that everything is all right even when it isn't. Worry is more of a Uranus/Mercury thing.

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posted August 01, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and Saturn has run over my Neptune, backed up and is preparing to run over it again

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posted August 01, 2013 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Neptune will give you the false idea that everything is all right even when it isn't. Worry is more of a Uranus/Mercury thing.


I find people with Neptune in strong aspect to the sun or moon are always experiencing an existential crises, regardless of what the astrology books say! You just have to know several of them to see it.

I had a major experience earlier this year where I thought everything was fine, and ironically, I thought I would be magically protected, then BOOM, I was entirely taken by surprise, walked around in a stupefied state of shock for a while afterward. The weirdest irony I have ever experienced in my life, what I said before it happened! Now THAT was a Neptunian moment like no other!

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posted August 01, 2013 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jkitty: Neptune will give you the false idea that everything is all right even when it isn't. Worry is more of a Uranus/Mercury thing.

What? Are you kidding? Neptune is neurotic! Being high-strung is indeed a Uranus/Mercury thing, but Neptune is worrisome.

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posted August 01, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I was entirely taken by surprise, walked around in a stupefied state of shock for a while afterward. The weirdest irony I have ever experienced in my life, what I said before it happened! Now THAT was a Neptunian moment like no other!

Read that statement again. Surprise? Shock? Stupefied? Weirdest? ALL Uranian words! Old man Uranus is getting off scott free while you're blaming his buddy

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posted August 01, 2013 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What? Are you kidding? Neptune is neurotic! Being high-strung is indeed a Uranus/Mercury thing, but Neptune is worrisome.

Neptune is very IMAGINATIVE, but if the imagination is creating worrisome scenarios, that is coming from somewhere else! Neptune on his own isn't neurotic. Do you have an aspect connecting Uranus with Neptune in your chart?

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posted August 01, 2013 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Read that statement again. Surprise? Shock? Stupefied? Weirdest? ALL Uranian words! Old man Uranus is getting off scott free while you're blaming his buddy



It's not Uranian. It's Neptunian. I thought my home was safe, it wasn't. False belief. Faith is Neptunian, intuition is Uranian. Don't worry, I am Uranian also, the bases are covered except for Pluto.

I have heard Neptunians described as weird. Neptune puts out a weird vibe. Uranian is more about being an eccentric genius, always inventing, loud, obnoxious, not caring about their effect on others. They are beyond impression. I am not talking Uranian.


One way I blend Uranus and Neptune is by idolizing the mad genius type. In my mind, that's a zenith - mankind's pentacle of existence - something they should strive for in every generation.

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posted August 01, 2013 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@JKitty; I'm not speaking about myself haha! Neptune is imaginative but that imagination often imagines things different from how they are, and that's why they're worrisome - they think someone is happening when it isn't or they're afraid something will happen when it won't...delusional, neurotic, all Neptunian effects. It's one of the facets. Another facet of Neptune is indeed the apathetic, withdrawn/avoidant type which you seem to be mentioning.

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posted August 01, 2013 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's how I am, sorta avoidant/escapist, withdrawn into zen at times. I experience profound inner peace all on my own in that state. For reals.

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posted August 01, 2013 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]I find people with Neptune in strong aspect to the sun or moon are always experiencing an existential crises, regardless of what the astrology books say! You just have to know several of them to see it.

Actually, I AM one of them: Neptune square Sun, 14 minutes orb, so basically exact. Neptune also squares my Moon, but that's with a wide orb (6.52). So you've succumbed to my illusion of being "together". Fooled yah!

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posted August 01, 2013 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Actually, I AM one of them: Neptune square Sun, 14 minutes orb, so basically exact. Neptune also squares my Moon, but that's with a wide orb (6.52). So you've succumbed to my illusion of being "together". Fooled yah!

I am talking conjunctions and oppositions in particular, they send out this vibe if these are with sun/moon/chart ruler ascendant/descendant that others notice. Not everyone with a Neptune aspect has this, people with the conjunction/opposition seem to.

I never notice you complaining or experiencing existential crises like I do the people who have these strong contacts between Neptune and luminaries. I mean, it's really noticeable. People notice, it drives them crazy, they criticize and offer advice and it has a negative effect on the Neptunian when, ironically, the intentions are good on behalf of the advisor. I have been the sweet, quiet, confidant of many a Neptunian.

I once was this way myself until I found my place within zen. I experience profound calm.

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posted August 01, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
@JKitty; I'm not speaking about myself haha! Neptune is imaginative but that imagination often imagines things different from how they are, and that's why they're worrisome - they think someone is happening when it isn't or they're afraid something will happen when it won't...delusional, neurotic, all Neptunian effects. It's one of the facets. Another facet of Neptune is indeed the apathetic, withdrawn/avoidant type which you seem to be mentioning.

Ah, thanks for clarifying that you weren't referring to yourself. And you've made a very good point. Neptune does have different manifestations, but the only ones you've mentioned are what I'd think of as the lower "dark side" of Neptune. Neptune has it's positive aspects, too. I've surrounded myself for so long with "good Neptune" people that I've actually forgotten about some of the nastier manifestations (how Neptunian is that?)!

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posted August 01, 2013 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jkitty, Neptunians have wonderful characteristics, too. They are the sweetest, kindest people you will ever meet. However, they cannot escape their Neptunian vibe so they confuse others or drive them crazy in some way. I am not implying it's complete, utter, abysmally, dismal darkness that never sees the light of day.

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posted August 01, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jkitty: Neptune does have different manifestations, but the only ones you've mentioned are what I'd think of as the lower "dark side" of Neptune. Neptune has it's positive aspects, too.

Oh yes totally! Neptune can be highly imaginative, creative, compassionate...indeed, and with people who have astrology on their side (like you and SSS), you can make unknown energies into your allies!

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