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Topic: Saturn-Sun & Pluto-Venus Synastry
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Regulus18
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From: Washington, D.C.
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 01, 2013 10:14 PM
  
Guys...Help. ok. So in synastry with my best friend I am Pluto in a Pluto conjunct Venus aspect. And I am Saturn in a Saturn trine Sun Aspect... I have always been very possessive of this friend. He has moved to the next town over but still works with me at Whole Foods. There's another guy who lives next to him and frequently receives rides home from my BFF because he lives in that same neighborhood... I don't have a problem with him having friends...but we used to go grab drinks every two days or so for 3 months. Now because we live so far away and I can't drive...he has been with this new guy as frequently as I was in the past. Needless to say, my PLUTO has been activated. I want nothing more than to see this new man to just...GET OUT! I feel that if i continue to be overlapped by this "new person" I will resort to Plutonian tactics to remove him. Anybody have any advice that could help calm me down? Oh god please...SOMEONE! IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 01, 2013 10:25 PM
How close is the Venus/Pluto conjunction?
And where is his own Pluto? If the conjunction is exact - you have nothing to worry about. IP: Logged |
Regulus18
Knowflake Posts: 50
From: Washington, D.C.
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 02, 2013 12:11 AM
....ohhh Odette..
The Pluto-Venus conjunction is a 3 degree conjunction. And it is in...Scorpio.
The Saturn-Sun trine is in Capricorn Saturn and Virgo Sun at 5 degrees. I feel the intensity...I like it sometimes...and im sure it feels good sometimes because it makes Venus feel special. But I want to be normal. I don't like being possessive this way.  IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 02, 2013 01:27 AM
Are you interested in this person as more than just a friend? That's the vibe I get. I have a lot of Pluto energy with Moon conjunct Pluto in the 8th house in Libra along with Saturn, Venus, and Jupiter. Plus a Scorpio sun, Mercury and Uranus. I only recently got into astrology, but I have noticed a pattern throughout my life that I either have one very close friend(guy or girl), OR a romantic relationship. It seems to be hard for me to maintain a really close friendship AND a romantic relationship at the same time. I think with all of my Pluto energy, that I tend to attract other Pluto types into my orbit. I had one really close girlfriend that would get so jealous, it got crazy. I could not have any other friends, and she would lie to guys that asked about me, telling them I had a jealous boyfriend so they wouldn't hit on me. She never came onto me in a sexual way, but she just could not handle me hanging out with anyone else. When a guy that I had been talking to sent me flowers, we got into an argument and she physically attacked me! That was it for me...she was done! The moral of the story is that whether this person is just a friend or you are wanting more, going all Pluto on them is not going to help your relationship. Manipulation and power plays are only going to make you look foolish and pathetic. I think that the best thing that you can do is to tell your friend that it's bothering you that they are spending more time with this new friend. If your friendship is strong, they will understand where you are coming from, and that you are just feeling left out. Honestly though, if this is only a platonic friendship, it seems like an overreaction to be feeling this jealous and possessive. I would really try to get to the bottom of what is causing these feelings...are you wanting more than a friendship, or do you feel like you are being replaced by the new friend? Pluto can be very powerful, but when you are a slave to these negative emotions you are left powerless. IP: Logged |
MsPrism
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posted August 02, 2013 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
but I have noticed a pattern throughout my life that I either have one very close friend(guy or girl), OR a romantic relationship. It seems to be hard for me to maintain a really close friendship AND a romantic relationship at the same time.
THANK YOU! I am the exact same. I'm happy you said that. IP: Logged |
Regulus18
Knowflake Posts: 50
From: Washington, D.C.
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 02, 2013 02:08 AM
Bluejay,I know you're right, and for now I will calm down. But we work together. I know the first time I am challenged or ignored...Pluto will pop up. I have notified my Venus of my feelings for him. He was speechless. The one time I tried to free myself, he turned that Venus in Scorpio charm on and pulled me back in. I don't stand a chance. <3 IP: Logged |
slowpoke
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posted August 02, 2013 03:02 AM
You would be wise to investigate your entire chart for the answers. If there are stressful aspects around that P conj. VE then the potential for things to come can be considered.There may be an easier way to read and understand complicated Synastry pie chart aspects. Pie chart aspects can also be produced onto a basic Synastry Aspect Chart. Review the sample chart at your leisure. It may help you gain even more insight than you currently have.
http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting
Slowpoke
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Bluejay
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posted August 02, 2013 03:02 AM
Your thread caught my eye because I have these same aspects with a guy that I met 8 years ago, that I still can't get over. My moon/Pluto/Lilith conjunction opposes his Venus. His sun trines my Saturn and Jupiter. Along with Mars trine and sextile Venus double whammy, sextile moons....there's also Neptune and Uranus in there, it's ridiculous. It's too many aspects to list, but I feel like it's the Venus/Pluto opposition that will not let me get over it. This was not someone I had a relationship with, which is fitting because the opposition can be an unrequited love aspect. I fell in love(lust?) at first sight with him, but was in a relationship at the time, which has recently ended. I feel like any other man would have to move heaven and earth to even catch my eye at this point. IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 02, 2013 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by Regulus18:
Bluejay,I know you're right, and for now I will calm down. But we work together. I know the first time I am challenged or ignored...Pluto will pop up. I have notified my Venus of my feelings for him. He was speechless. The one time I tried to free myself, he turned that Venus in Scorpio charm on and pulled me back in. I don't stand a chance. <3
Wow, so you confessed your feelings after all! That's great, Regulus, I am happy for you!
Aww don't be jealous, Pluto. You know Venus has no choice but to gravitate to you!  IP: Logged |
Regulus18
Knowflake Posts: 50
From: Washington, D.C.
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 02, 2013 06:26 AM
HahahaHi Hera!  i did! now we are both single. and have been clinging to each other for about a month now I think(I blame our Gemini Moon Conjunction). He's moved 15 minutes down the road to another suburb. I can't handle it because he used to be a 3 minute walk from me and I have a suspended license. Now my Pluto is being threatened by another male and I am not liking it! To be honest with you their is no logic to support my fears. --Bluejay I wish there was a way to personal message people here. Anyway...we have a mars-venus square and opposition. And just about every other yin yang aspect you can think of. Nice to know someone identifies with the struggle... I think you should go back and chase your Venus! Screw that, life is too short not to take chances! IP: Logged |
Regulus18
Knowflake Posts: 50
From: Washington, D.C.
Registered: Jun 2013
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posted August 02, 2013 12:58 PM
Hera--Is that true? hm...Pluto-Venus is so tricky. There is a real sense of authority on my part in this relationship. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 02, 2013 10:58 PM
Regulus18As far as chasing Venus goes...I think I waited all of 4 days after I knew things were beyond repair with me and my ex to contact him. LOL! Honestly, our relationship pretty much died a slow, painful death, so it had really been over for a while. Anyway, what makes the situation more complicated was that I barely knew the other guy. Like I said, I was instantly attracted to him, which was obviously mutual. On 2 different occasions my boyfriend and I talked to him for hours(the other guy is a Gemini), and I realized that I must stay away from this man. Not only did I find him sexy as hell, we are in a similar career field (my yin to his yang) and we had a lot of similar interests. I avoided him, and then I ended up moving out of state, so there was little chance of ever seeing him again. Soooo, I ended up contacting him, and wouldn't ya know...he's married. I texted him, but once I found out he was married, I backed off. He hounded me for 2 days to call him. I was reluctant to because I really didn't know what he was expecting, and I was pretty turned off by the idea that he might be thinking I just wanted a fling with him. I did end up calling him, and we talked for almost 3 hours. He told me he was having marriage problems-aren't all guys-and that he had one foot out the door already. The conversation was in no way sexual, it was like two old friends catching up. This just made me feel even more deeply connected to him, and I know he felt it too. When I realized how long we had been on the phone, he could not believe it. We both felt like we had only been talking for maybe 45 minutes max, it was like a time warp. We had to get off the phone because it was late, but I know that we could've talked all night. We texted a couple of times after that, and we talked on the phone one other time. The second time I talked to him he said he was going to start marriage counseling, and that he was trying to decide whether or not to end his marriage. So basically he said he doesn't want to be married, but he is going to counseling because he doesn't want to be the bad guy, and wants to end things amicably with his wife. He said that his family would disown him if he left his wife without going to counseling first. I guess it's a very Gemini thing to do, he has several sisters, and I think he tells them everything. I got the feeling that by our second conversation, his family knew the situation, and was giving him advice on what to do. ??? They don't have kids by the way. So not only does he earn major points with me for actually respecting his marriage, he leaves me with some glimmer of hope that when things are over between them we can see where it goes. I told him that I couldn't talk to him, even though we were just talking on the phone, it wasn't appropriate. This happened several months ago, and I have not heard from him. I sent him one text saying I hoped everything was ok with him, and he never responded. It just sucks because I know that there is no forgetting this man. I really feel like he is experiencing the same thing I went through 8 years ago. I hid my feelings from him trying to do what was right, thinking the feelings would fade eventually. Obviously they didn't. IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted August 03, 2013 01:59 AM
Somebody who I've known and loved for a long time:his sun trine my Saturn and we have a Venus/Pluto DW with my Pluto square his Venus and his Pluto opposite my Venus.. Nobody has ever made me feel the way he has/still could if I still spent time around him. There was a lot of passion between us and the physical attraction made me feel like I was set on fire. When things ended between us it was the most horrific experience of my life. I'm still bound to him, and him to me, in our own weird way, but life has pulled us apart and put us in a place where we can't see each other. I don't know if it's for the best or if it will be my emotional undoing in the end, but I do know that I will never forget him or the way I felt with him. Yes there were jealousy issues, and yes there were some power struggles, but every minute of all of it was worth it for the memories I have..*sigh* it's his birthday tomorrow and I'm not even allowed to wish him a happy one. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 03, 2013 02:55 AM
I'm sorry Lionfish, I really feel for you. That is what scares me about my situation. The passion is so strong that if I ever had a relationship with him it would be very intense. I would be putting myself in a situation where I could get my heart ripped to shreds. Even though I know this, it doesn't stop me from wanting a relationship with him. I don't know if it's any consolation, but I think that not knowing what could have been is more painful to me. If I was heart broken, at least I wouldn't have to wonder "what if" till my dying day.
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LionFish
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posted August 03, 2013 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
I'm sorry Lionfish, I really feel for you. That is what scares me about my situation. The passion is so strong that if I ever had a relationship with him it would be very intense. I would be putting myself in a situation where I could get my heart ripped to shreds. Even though I know this, it doesn't stop me from wanting a relationship with him.
as long as you both can handle it, intense is a good thing And yes, with that much of a sway over you it's possible your heart could be broken horribly..but think of what could be if your heart isn't broken by this person...
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I don't know if it's any consolation, but I think that not knowing what could have been is more painful to me. If I was heart broken, at least I wouldn't have to wonder "what if" till my dying day.
I have to disagree here. I think I would have been able to forget about "what if..." eventually. Knowing what could and should be and then having it torn away from you for reasons beyond your own control.. It left my heart in pieces and me either numb or unresponsive to everyone else around me if I was in public or curled up on the floor crying from the pain of missing him if I was at home. For more than 6 months I cried myself to sleep every night. And now, even though I've been in a new relationship for 2 1/2 years, I still think about him every day. Sometimes I wonder if it's his thoughts projected onto my own (we had this crazy way of doing that to each other) and it's him missing me not me missing him that I'm feeling. I only think this because he pops in my head at the most random of moments. Sometimes it's just a whisper of his name running through my mind, but that's all it takes and I'm lost for a few moments.. Ugh... I'm sorry, I could write forever and ever about the way I feel for him.. My advice is go for it. Try it. Love it. And if it doesn't last, it definitely won't be an easy thing to handle, but it will also be worth it. IP: Logged | |
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