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Lotis White
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posted August 06, 2013 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://astrologystudy.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/the-vertex-and-anti-vertex-in-synastry.html

Hi everyone!

Really enjoyed this article about the vertex Axis. It also has a synastry section about the Vertex Axis on each of the planets, and the Asc/Dsc, Nodes.

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posted August 06, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing!

I've seen a lot of vertex conjunct DC in composites with my friends or exes.

I have Venus and Chiron conjunct my vertex with my boyfriend, NN trine his Vertex by 9 minutes. Composite vertex conjunct cSun by 1 degree, cChiron by 4, cVenus by 5ish.

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posted August 06, 2013 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Lotis (I had already read it but anyway).

I wouldn't put much consideration into the Vertex though, simply because I've had (numerous) cases where my Vertex was activated but there was nothing there.
Same thing with other people's Vertex.


Why do you think it's sometimes felt and other times goes unnoticed?
Is it about the house placement?
Mine's in the 6th, not exactly a romantic place.

Also.. can the planet person actually feel the fated connection, but not the Vertex person?
I'm pretty sure something like that happened to me a few times but I don't know if it was a Vertex thing or something else in the chart.

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posted August 06, 2013 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Doux, and everybody!

I’ve found the Vertex Axis to be quite significant when it’s combined with a variety of other factors indicating a significant connection in synastry. By itself it just means the person catches our attention somewhat.

I’ve noticed that the Vertex Axis shows how, when, with whom we perceive meaning in the world around us, in regards to what’s personally significant to us. When something appears as if it is specifically relevant to us… An event, a person, a time… It takes on a fated feeling for us, like something that was meant to be. That’s why the Vertex can be referred to as the intersection of fate… This is where we turn corners, or something new comes along, that changes our external (situation) or internal (perspective) world. By itself the vertex in synastry is not enough to create a major attraction, but damn, with this factor is combined with other things it can really rock your world.

The Vertex can be significant in any type of relationship, these are the people who ‘show us the way’ towards an important change, or revelation in life. This can happen with friends, teachers, family members, love interests, anything! A good key word for the Vertex would be SYNCRONICITY!

That being said, I’ve also found that the Vertex is involved in romantic attractions in a powerful way. The article mentions that the Vertex Axis indicates what we are attracted to in others unconsciously. We don’t obsess over this characteristics, or consciously acknowledge them as ‘our type’, but when we encounter them in others we ‘recognize’ that this is what we were looking for.

The 5th, 7th, and 8th houses, plus Venus and Mars (And to some extent the Sun and the Moon) shows our conscious attraction pattern. If asked to describe what we’d like from others in relationships, these factors are what we’d talk about. The Vertex Axis is much less obvious then this, it seeks up on you, and surprises you, with how drawn you are to these characteristics. At least the first time it happens. I don’t think that our Vertex Axis taste always remains unconscious. Once it’s recognized we seem to develop a ‘feel’ for that elusive something extra that we crave.

I agree with the author that both sides of the Vertex Axis indicate different sides of what we unconsciously need from others. Some people resonate with one side of the Axis more then the other, it depends on the rest of the natal chart.

Using myself as an example… I have Vertex at 15 Taurus and the Antivertex at 15 Scorpio, I also have Uranus tightly conjunct my Antivertex also at 15 Scorpio… I’ve noticed that people with Taurus/Scorpio oppositions in their charts do tend to stand out in my mind…. The same thing with people who have Uranus hard aspects in their charts, especially oppositions… Also, Aquarians (who are ruled by Uranus) tend to stand out to me as well. Planets near 15 degrees of Taurus or Scorpio are real ‘head turners’ for me. I crave stability, and depth, but also excitement from others. I’ve learned this about myself as life has gone along.

If a person’s chart strongly mirrors your Vertex Axis, including mirroring how planets in your natal aspect this axis (like in my example, having Uranus oppose my Vertex, and being intrigued by people with hard Uranus aspects in their chart, and Aquarians), then they too can have a ‘Vertex’ like effect on you.

I’ve found aspects to the Vertex Axis are significant as well. Not just the conjunctions and oppositions. Trines, and sextiles. are like someone gently leading you towards a ‘fated’ experience. Whereas squares tend to have jarring, shocking effect, in how they hurl you towards a ’fated’ experience. Even minor aspects have an effect.

I’ll give an example again from my chart.

Natally I’ve got Venus is opposite Jupiter (Venus is at 29 Sag and Jupiter is at 00 Cancer). This opposition is semisquare and sesquiquadrate my Uranus/Vertex Axis…. People with planets in the very late Sag/ early Cap area, as well as in very late Gemini/early Cancer area, tend to have an captivating Vertex-like effect on me as well. They stand out, and resonate with me somehow in a personal way. Semisquares and sesquiquadrates are like little squares, the have ‘zing’ effect. Like a little electric shock, rather then being struck by lightening.

The symbolism of the Vertex is a lot more involved, and telling the many people realize. Most folks just look to see if there are any conjunctions and oppositions in transit or synastry, and leave it at that! They are missing so much. The rulers of the signs on either end of the Vertex are especially interesting to look at as well.

Back to the Vertex being combined with other factors…

Okay, in love relationships the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses are said to describe what we’re consciously looking for in others. I’ve noticed that the Vertex Axis is POTENT in synastry, when it’s activated along with the 5th, 7th, and 8th houses… And other important planetary synastry in attraction, like Venus/Mars, Sun/Moon, and all the other physical attraction connections. There’s the feeling of something being fated, along with all the other exciting stuff that goes along with love relationships. Vertex Axis synastry in love relationships is like that special X factor that can take things over the top. It’s a ‘Wow’ type feeling. Vertex Axis synastry gives a feeling that a relationship is meaningful. and profoundly important in your life.

Most major attractions for us come from a variety of different factors in synastry. Not just one. The Vertex Axis alone can never account a major attraction, but it certainly can enhance ones already shown in synastry.

And when it come to synastry, I also take note of the Vertex Axis lining up with the angles, and the nodes, not just the planets. Houses cusps lining up with the Vertex Axis can be significant to. Think the 5th/11th house Axis lining with your Vertex Axis in a love relationship… That means that this person’s way of giving and receiving, plus their children/attitude towards romance, and social circle, resonate with what you need in very personal way. Never overlook the details.

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posted August 06, 2013 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Also.. can the planet person actually feel the fated connection, but not the Vertex person?
I'm pretty sure something like that happened to me a few times but I don't know if it was a Vertex thing or something else in the chart.

WHO FEELS IT MORE?????

Everyone’s favorite question!

Okay, what I’ve noticed is that he Vertex person is the one who experiences a feeling of craving, and ‘fatedness’, for the Planet/Nodes/Angles person (in synastry).

The Vertex Axis person is usually the one who has an interest in the Planet/Nodes/Angles person soon after meeting them. Even instantly upon meeting them. The Vertex Axis person is able to ’recognize’ the Planet/Nodes/Angles person as special in some way. Whereas the Planet/Nodes/Angles person may be oblivious to the Vertex person. At some point there’s often a ‘REVELATION’ of some kind, where the Planet/Nodes/Angles person is made aware of the Vertex Axis person’s special regard for them. Or maybe the Planet/Nodes/Angles person just senses the effect they have on the Vertex Axis person. Perhaps the Vertex Axis person’s behavior tips them off. Then the Planet/Nodes/Angles person gets suspicious that the Vertex person has some type of profound regard for them (platonic or romantic). Things can go either way from here.

Sometimes when we find out that someone really has an interest in us, it makes us warm up to them. We like them more because of it, and we enjoy the feeling of appreciation that we get from them. The Vertex Axis person is able to make the Planet/Nodes/Angles person feel validated, and special. Particularly with regard to the area of the natal chart that the Vertex Axis touches in synastry. The Planet/Nodes/Angles may feel overjoyed and relived that someone finally understands them in this area of life, like “finally, someone GETS me!“ This is the outcome that usually happens when the synastry overall indicates attraction and liking between two people. This is ‘THE WOW, I HAVE AN ADMIRER’ type response.

The other possible outcome, is that the Vertex person’s regard for the Planet/Nodes/Angles person may make them uncomfortable, or even make them feel violated. They may wonder why the Vertex Axis person pays so much attention to them, as if they are obsessed or something (in either a platonic or romantic way). They may think what they do is none of the Vertex person’s business and wish they would leave them alone! Sometimes the Planet/Nodes/Angles person is actually repulsed by the Vertex Axis person. Again this depends on the overall synastry. If the synastry overall indicates aversion, and difficulty, an outcome like this is possible. This is ‘THE STALKER AND THEIR PREY’ type response, at it’s worst.

Personal note: I’ve noticed that the Vertex Axis tend to indicate attraction more then repulsion. It tends to be innately positive. There is a much stronger likelihood of attraction, and a positive result then a negative one. I just wanted to point out the Vertex Axis synastry doesn’t always have a happy ending, even if it can feel super meaningful. If there’s a heartbreak, often that in itself is a important turning point for us, and we learn from it.

A third possible outcome is that the synastry in general between the Planet/Nodes/Angles person and the Vertex Axis person is weak. Maybe they have a Vertex Axis conjunction in synastry, but other then that not much is going on aspect-wise. Here, neither the Vertex Axis person, or the Planet/Nodes/Angles person, will have much of a response to each other. Although, the Planet/Nodes/Angles person is likely to stand out to the Vertex Axis person just a little. Some little detail about them may stick in the Vertex Axis person’s mind.

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posted August 06, 2013 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Why do you think it's sometimes felt and other times goes unnoticed?
Is it about the house placement?
Mine's in the 6th, not exactly a romantic place.

The Vertex Axis can be in any house and have an attracting, ‘fated’ impact, as long as the rest of the synastry overall indicates a significant involvement between two people. It’s the complete context of the synastry that decides the type of connection that exists (or if there even is a connection in the first place).

The connections we make with our Vertex Axis can be romantic or platonic, and this depends on what’s going on elsewhere in the synastry. If your overall synastry with someone indicates a platonic friendship, the ‘fated’ connection that comes from a Vertex Axis will be that of a friend that helps you move forward with your ‘destiny’ in some way. If there is a strong romantic flavor to the synastry overall, then the Vertex connection will be that of a love interest gives you something you’ve always needed/wanted in a love relationship. They open you up to a whole new world, and this can feel like ‘a dream come true’.

Vertex in the 6th house simply means we’re likely to encounter ‘fated’ things in the area of life related to the 6th house… We could meet someone important, or learn some ‘game changing’ information, as a result of health issues, or things that go on at work, or in our daily routines. I think you get the picture.

It’s also important to consider that location of the Antivertex, as the symbolism here will also influence where we have encounters that feel ‘fated’ as well. That means you’d look into what’s on with your Antivertex in the 12th house as well.

I never think of the Vertex itself in isolation. I think of it as an Axis with two ends in a set of opposite houses. Both these houses revel something about the where we experience important encounters in our lives. After all, opposite houses are interdependent in way. The 12th house/6th house Axis has to do with either embracing our necessary duties in life (6th house), or escaping in from them into our imagination/dream world (12th house). These may be key issues for you in important turning points in your life, or when you meet significant people.

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posted August 06, 2013 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis.. thank you so much for your great replies.

Your Antivertex conjuncts my Sun, but I'm pretty sure I'm the one in awe, here!

What orb do use for the Vertex axis?
Natally and in synastry?

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posted August 06, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you give the same significance to:

Composite vertex
N. vertex to composite planets
C. Vertex to natal planets

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posted August 06, 2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Lotis.. thank you so much for your great replies.

Your Antivertex conjuncts my Sun, but I'm pretty sure I'm the one in awe, here!


Ha ha! Maybe, but your Sun would also be conjunct my Uranus in this case. I have a Uranus/Antivertex conjunction. Uranus is a pretty dazzling planet.

Out of curiosity, where is your Vertex?

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
What orb do use for the Vertex axis?
Natally and in synastry?

I like to see it aspecting within 3 degrees.

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posted August 06, 2013 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.. Uranus is usually strongly felt.

My Vertex is at 24'52° Libra.
Does it aspect anything in your chart?

Someone's Venus once opposed it (27° Aries) and I had a case of "fascination at first sight" with them, but my Venus conjuncted their Pluto and their Venus fell in my 12th and made a quincunx to my Pluto.

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posted August 06, 2013 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Would you give the same significance to:

Composite vertex
N. vertex to composite planets
C. Vertex to natal planets


Hi Lioness,

N. vertex to composite planets…

Our natal Vertex Axis shows what feels relevant, meaningful, and ‘fated’ for us on an individual level. When composite planets aspect our natal Vertex Axis, it refers to the relationship as an entity within itself, influences our concept of ‘destiny’. In other words, it shows how we feel the relationship itself has caused to go through important turning points in our own lives, and how that relationship given us what we’ve longed for on some deep level (or taught us what we do long for, and didn’t get, if the relationship outcome is not happy).

C. Vertex to natal planets…

The composite chart reflects the relationship itself. The composite Vertex Axis shows what it is about the relationship that makes the relationship seem meaningful, and special, like it were ‘meant to be’. It also shows where in the relationship there will be synchronistic turning points, and revelations. So, natal planets aspecting the composite Vertex Axis refer to how each individual partner creates/influences ‘fated’ circumstances within the relationship. And it shows how each partner responds/resonates with this circumstances on a personal level. How they feel about it the ‘destiny’ and synchronicity present in the relationship (are they happy, sad, excited, contented, angry, confused… Pick your adjective… About it)

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posted August 06, 2013 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Yeah.. Uranus is usually strongly felt.

My Vertex is at 24'52° Libra.
Does it aspect anything in your chart?

Someone's Venus once opposed it (27° Aries) and I had a case of "fascination at first sight" with them, but my Venus conjuncted their Pluto and their Venus fell in my 12th and made a quincunx to my Pluto.


Yeah, my Mercury at 22 Sagittarius, and my Asc at 25 Sagittarius, aspects your Vertex Axis with sextiles and trines (24 Libra to 24 Aries).

About about your Vertex Axis/Venus synastry, instant recognition and fascination are definitely 'Vertex Axis' themes. Pluto is involved, but Pluto gives a slow, hypnotic, insidious influence, rather a sudden rush in synastry. Vertex Axis at 24'52 is almost 25 degrees, so the orb with this guy's Venus is only about 3 degrees. I can see how this would have an effect.

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posted August 06, 2013 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's probably your Uranus then.

Thanks for giving your opinion on this!
Makes sense.

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posted August 06, 2013 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi Lioness,

N. vertex to composite planets…

Our natal Vertex Axis shows what feels relevant, meaningful, and ‘fated’ for us on an individual level. When composite planets aspect our natal Vertex Axis, it refers to the relationship as an entity within itself, influences our concept of ‘destiny’. In other words, it shows how we feel the relationship itself has caused to go through important turning points in our own lives, and how that relationship given us what we’ve longed for on some deep level (or taught us what we do long for, and didn’t get, if the relationship outcome is not happy).

C. Vertex to natal planets…

The composite chart reflects the relationship itself. The composite Vertex Axis shows what it is about the relationship that makes the relationship seem meaningful, and special, like it were ‘meant to be’. It also shows where in the relationship there will be synchronistic turning points, and revelations. So, natal planets aspecting the composite Vertex Axis refer to how each individual partner creates/influences ‘fated’ circumstances within the relationship. And it shows how each partner responds/resonates with this circumstances on a personal level. How they feel about it the ‘destiny’ and synchronicity present in the relationship (are they happy, sad, excited, contented, angry, confused… Pick your adjective… About it)



Thanks!!!!!!
Great info.


I noticed vertex aspects from natal to composite,
I will list them,
Only listing super tight stuff, and not listing tight asteroids, just planets

His n vertex 9 cap. To composite
Square c. Venus exact
Square c moon 2
Square c Pluto exact

Composite vertex to his natal
Sextile his nn 1
Sextile his Venus exact


Composite vertex to my natal
Square my sun exact
Square my moon,merc 2

My natal vertex to composite.
Trine sun 1 orb
Sextile nn 1
Sextile mars. 2.5

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posted August 07, 2013 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting thread.

Out of curiosity, this information only applies to conjunctions and oppositions, or Squares, Trines and Sextiles are also in the mix and just as valid?

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posted August 07, 2013 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Vertex-axis is interesting because Antivertex is exactly conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp and Vertex itself conjuncts asteroid EROS exact in Cancer in 8th house.

Mr Sag`s Venus-Pluto sets off my Vertex axis, though the Venus-aspect is a bit too wide
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His Venus conjuncts my Antivertex by 4°25
his Pluto squares my Vertex by 0°06


my Sun squares his Vertex by 2°22
my mercury squares his VErtex by 3°15


Interestingly we both have our Sun/Moon-mp aligned with Vertex, natally. his is square by 0°30


composite Moon conjuncts my natal Antivertex (and Sun/Moon-mp) by 1°23

composite Sun squares his natal Vertex (and conjuncts his Sun/Moon mp) by 1°52


oh and I forgot
composite Mars-NN is conjunct his natal Pluto, which in turn square my Vertex-axis.

The composite Antivertex itself conjuncts our natal tight conjunction of Psyche and Psyche(plus his Pallas).

He definitely made an impression on me; though it probably can also be seen easily from the overall synastry.

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posted August 07, 2013 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by orocairion:
Interesting thread.

Out of curiosity, this information only applies to conjunctions and oppositions, or Squares, Trines and Sextiles are also in the mix and just as valid?


In Vertex Axis syanstry and transits...

Conjunctions and oppositions are the most powerful, and easily felt. Squares tend to be rather dramatic and are also easily felt, although they are less powerful then the conjunctions and oppositions.

Soft aspects like sextiles and trines have an effect, yes. The effect is less exaggerated then that of hard aspects. There's a mild, smooth flow of influence there... Like a gentle nudge in a 'fated' direction, rather then a massive push.

I've even noticed that semisquares and sesquiquadrates, which are apparently minor aspects, have an effect on the Vertex Axis. I've seen this with transits.

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posted August 07, 2013 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*raises hand from back of the classroom* Is there a way to specifically see your anti-vertex when creating your chart on astro.com?

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I have my Vertex conjunct my Moon, Venus and South Node, square Mars, and so on...

I'll have to read this in a while.

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posted August 07, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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*raises hand from back of the classroom* Is there a way to specifically see your anti-vertex when creating your chart on astro.com?

Hi Hanna,

The Antivertex is always exactly opposite the Vertex. The Vertex/Antivertex make up an axis, like the Asc/Dsc or North Node/South Node. It doesn't show on astro.com but it's location is pretty obvious.

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posted August 09, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this article on the Vertex, too:
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/11/synastry-q-a-the-vertex/

I think this part is especially important: "However, there is one catch to Vertex and anti-Vertex contacts: we must be at a point where we are spiritually ready for the experience, or the Vertex contact may come to nothing. As Hamlet says, “the readiness is all.” (The exception comes when we have our own planets on the anti-Vertex; another person’s planet or midpoint that conjuncts the Vertex affects the polarity point of the anti-Vertex planet. It makes the Vertex a very active place.)" I'm one of those people with a planet (Neptune) on the anti-Vertex, too.

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posted August 12, 2013 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I like this article on the Vertex, too:
http://theinnerwheel.com/2009/09/11/synastry-q-a-the-vertex/

I think this part is especially important: "However, there is one catch to Vertex and anti-Vertex contacts: we must be at a point where we are spiritually ready for the experience, or the Vertex contact may come to nothing. As Hamlet says, “the readiness is all.” (The exception comes when we have our own planets on the anti-Vertex; another person’s planet or midpoint that conjuncts the Vertex affects the polarity point of the anti-Vertex planet. It makes the Vertex a very active place.)" I'm one of those people with a planet (Neptune) on the anti-Vertex, too.


Yes, I enjoyed that article too. In my own chart I have Uranus conjunct my Antivertex by less then a degree. I especially related to this part…

The anti-Vertex people have a tendency to be their own ‘other,’ and not be inclined to partnership unless it’s a serious one. Not that relationships will not happen in their lives; on the contrary, the relationships that do occur will be highly charged and deeply significant. But you won’t find people with important planets on the anti-Vertex looking for any old warm body on a Saturday night.

From the article I listed in the OP there’s a synastry section involving the Vertex Axis to all the planets and angles. But I find that the synastry descriptions can also be useful for describing natal placements. As in, how special turning points, and fated events, ‘feel’ for a person that has a planet conjunct or oppose their Vertex in their own natal chart.

This is the one for Uranus/Vertex Axis…

Uranus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Uranus person acts as a revolutionizing, destabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The attraction is high, as is the sense of excitement when the two of them get together. Uranus opens the Vertex person’s mind to a variety of possibilities. The area in which the Uranus person revolutionalizes the Vertex person is represented by the house in which the conjunction resides.

I’ve noticed that Vertex Axis like ‘happenings’ for me, have a frenetic, exciting, intellectually stimulating quality. The experience tends to feel radical, and ‘out there’. It’s all very Uranian. In my chart Uranus rules my 3rd house, and very often I find myself experiencing my Vertex Axis in terms of intellectual breakthroughs, and exciting ideas coming to me. I’ve had this a lot with my studies in astrology. All of a sudden something will just click into place in my mind, and I’m like ’WOW’!. These things might not mean much to other people but to me they change my whole perspective when looking at people’s charts etc. Interestingly Uranus is said to rule astrology, and divination in general.

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posted August 12, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
I especially related to this part…

The anti-Vertex people have a tendency to be their own ‘other,’ and not be inclined to partnership unless it’s a serious one. Not that relationships will not happen in their lives; on the contrary, the relationships that do occur will be highly charged and deeply significant. But you won’t find people with important planets on the anti-Vertex looking for any old warm body on a Saturday night.

But I find that the synastry descriptions can also be useful for describing natal placements.


I also liked the part you quoted. That part REALLY fits me, too.

I hadn't thought about taking the synastry descriptions and applying it to myself. Neptune is only 6 minutes from my anti-vertex. Here's mine:

Neptune- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Vertex person is magically drawn to the Neptune person. The Vertex person easily “loses” herself in the Neptune person, and feels as though the Neptune person fulfills their innermost dreams and fantasies of the perfect mate. This is a highly spiritual, magnetic, and dreamy relationship.

LOL. Who needs a flesh-and-blood person when you can enjoy perfection in a fantasy? (sing it!) "Dream lover come rescue me, take me up, take me down, take me anyway you want to baby!" This is probably even more pronounced since Neptune is in my 1st house with the Vertex in my 7th. And all this time I thought it was the 14 minute square from Neptune to my Sun!

Hmmm. That puts my Aquarius Sun square to the Vertical axis with only an 8 minute orb. I wonder what that means? Sun is in my 4th house. I DO tend to fantasize most when I'm at home. I'd also say my fantasies fuel my creativity, so maybe that's it? At any rate, I didn't even know about the Vertex during my 1st foray into astrology back in my 20s, so this is all new to me.

So one question about having a natally "loaded" Vertex. Doesn't this mean that I'm most likely to attract Neptunian energy along my Vertical axis, like that's the frequency my "antenna" is tuned to? I've always had a thing for musicians, but I've never had a significant relationship with one. And I've fortunately managed to avoid the druggies and alcoholics. So I'm not sure if I'm really understanding how this point would work for me.

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
So one question about having a natally "loaded" Vertex. Doesn't this mean that I'm most likely to attract Neptunian energy along my Vertical axis, like that's the frequency my "antenna" is tuned to? I've always had a thing for musicians, but I've never had a significant relationship with one. And I've fortunately managed to avoid the druggies and alcoholics. So I'm not sure if I'm really understanding how this point would work for me.

Yes, it means Neptune/Pisces/12th house type stuff in others would fascinate you. Saying that this is just what your antenna is tuned into is a good way to put it. Not only in external ways, like somebody being a painter, musician, or poet etc. A person simply being compassionate, imaginative, dreamy, idealistic, sensitive, artistic, sentimental and maybe even mystical or psychic... These type of people catch your attention, and give you that 'fate is at work' type of synchronicity.

I experience the same thing with Aquarius/Uranus people. They always seem to know key information that I enjoy learning about, and have an interesting perspective that sheds new light on things for me. It's refreshing and I love it.

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For those who want to know…

Here’s an excerpt from the article in the OP by astrologer ‘Little Daisy’ http://astrologystudy.blogspot.co.nz/2013/06/the-vertex-and-anti-vertex-in-synastry.ht ml

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SYNASTRY ASPECTS WITH THE VERTEX

Sun- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Sun person’s ego expression and core-being encapsulates the Vertex person’s idea of the perfect mate. An instant friendship is indicated. There is a feeling of destiny between the two of you, and you feel that you can go the distance together.

Moon- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is an indication of an emotional, supportive, and nurturing connection. The Vertex person is unconsciously attracted to the Moon person’s emotional nature. There is a natural attraction to one another; you feel instantly safe and comfortable with one another. In fact, it can be so comfortable and wonderful, that it is difficult to be without one another!

Mercury- Vertex/Anti-Vertex : A strong intellectual and mental link exists when someone’s Mercury is conjunct or opposite another person’s Vertex. The two of you feel instinctively comfortable talking with one another. Unless there are strong romantic links in the rest of the synastry, this combination can feel like a brotherly-sisterly connection. I have this with a close friend of mine. I love talking to him, and I’m so attracted to his mind.

Venus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is a prime indicator of a fated, romantic link that will change your life forever. The feelings of love and romance are incredibly strong. The Vertex person finds the Venus person beautiful, charming, and the “man/woman of their dreams.” The love is so strong that separating from one another is incredibly difficult.

Mars- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This indicates a highly sexual link. The sexual charisma and assertiveness of the Mars person is highly attractive to the Vertex person. Sex is transformative and intense; you can’t get enough of one another!

Jupiter- Vertex/Anti-Vertex : This connection indicates a benevolent union, full of generosity, good will, and indulgence! The two of you (especially the Vertex person) feel good about yourselves when you are together. The Jupiter can improve your career life and help you achieve your ambitions.

Saturn- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Saturn person acts as a stabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The Saturn person may be somewhat of a “fatherly” type to the Vertex person, offering practical advice and guidance. Saturn represents “karma,” while the Vertex represents “fate,” so the relationship is likely to have a highly significant effect on the both of them. The feeling of responsibility and commitment to the Saturn person is high, and it will be hard for the couple to separate because of this.

Uranus- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Uranus person acts as a revolutionizing, destabilizing force in the Vertex person’s life. The attraction is high, as is the sense of excitement when the two of them get together. Uranus opens the Vertex person’s mind to a variety of possibilities. The area in which the Uranus person revolutionalizes the Vertex person is represented by the house in which the conjunction resides.

Neptune- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Vertex person is magically drawn to the Neptune person. The Vertex person easily “loses” herself in the Neptune person, and feels as though the Neptune person fulfills their innermost dreams and fantasies of the perfect mate. This is a highly spiritual, magnetic, and dreamy relationship.

Pluto- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: The Pluto person has a transformative effect on the Vertex person. The two of you were destined to meet, indeed. This is an opportunity for the Vertex person’s personal growth, which will be achieved by a highly intense and sexual relationship with the Pluto person. Check which house the conjunction is in to get more details as to what kind of transformation will take place.

Node- Vertex/Anti-Vertex: This is one of the prime indicators of marriage in synastry. The Vertex person has a powerful effect on the Node person’s personality, helping them develop the qualities they need to develop in this life. The two of you were fated to meet, and were destined to learn a lot from one another. An instant sense of familiarity is indicated, since the South Node is being aspected by the other person’s Vertex or Anti-Vertex, as well. The two of you have certainly met before, and have unfinished business to take care of. The attraction is magnetic, powerful, and will transform the both of you forever. Check the house position the conjunction resides in order to get a better idea of how these energies will manifest in each person’s life.

For example, the love of my life’s North Node is conjunct my Vertex in the 8th house in Cancer. Our relationship was highly intimate, transformative, and sexually intense (8th house), as well as nurturing, loving, and caring. I greatly helped him develop sexually, as well as emotionally, and he had a similar effect on me. I will never, ever forget him, and he is still hanging on to our relationship, even though we broke up a long time ago.

Ascendant-Vertex: When someone’s Vertex is conjunct your Ascendant, your Vertex is conjunct their Ascendant. This is an indicator of an intense attraction. The two of you may easily stay together for the rest of your lives because of the intense attachment you feel for one another. The physical attraction is off the charts, and the feeling of attraction is instant. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have this aspect.

Descendant-Vertex: The two of you are inexplicably drawn to one another. A feeling of fatedness permeates your relationship. This is an excellent indicator of marriage or, at least, a very significant relationship, which will transform both person’s concepts of love and relationships forever.

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