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m.blade
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posted August 06, 2013 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would this affect a Scorpio Risers appearance and general person? Would this person be sort of a healer?

I'm wondering since I have this aspect and I also heard it means the person may have alot of scars which are visible. (i do but they are like super minor from falling of washing machines as a baby lol)

So how does this conjunction play out in Scorpio?

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posted August 06, 2013 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen this in cases of severe bullying. Did you have it?

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posted August 06, 2013 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was bullied terribly when I was a young kid. We moved homes to another council estate and it was just terrible. I couldn't begin to explain how timid and shy it made me.

I got over it and it made me stronger. I'm always told I'm a 'sunny, kind and funny' person (sun trine ascendant) and that I know how to make someone feel better.

I have also been told I'm excellent in helping someone get better if they are really upset.

But yes I was bullied quite severely I'd say in early childhood. I'm also wondering how this would affect physical appearance and since it's in Scorpio; how would this relate to the sign?

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posted August 06, 2013 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Your ASC is right then. Every case that has come to me with Chiron conj the ASC had severe bullying

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posted August 06, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My husband has it, though Taurus, not Scorpio.

He was severely abused as a child and now has an innate understanding of abused people, and so does work well as a healer. FWIW, I think he should have been a doctor as well (always did well in Biology and has an excellent grasp of systems).

Appearance-wise, he does have some significant scarring.

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posted August 06, 2013 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always seem to be approached by people who are in need of this 'help'.

It's not ALL my friends but theres a group who were terrible before they met me. I have significant scarring that isn't visible due to something that happened to me when I was about 9. I guess that has to do with Chiron.

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posted August 06, 2013 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Most of his scarring isn't readily visible, either, so you may be on to something.

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posted August 06, 2013 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also have lilth in my 1st and juno on my ascendant lol what would this mean

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posted August 06, 2013 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
i also have lilth in my 1st and juno on my ascendant lol what would this mean

Juno conj the ASC. You are a loyal person capable of great devotion. It is a lovely placement

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posted August 06, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww thats nice what about lilth in 1st? (not conjunct asc)

also what I wonder is, do asteroids take any major difference on your physical appearance?

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posted August 06, 2013 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The emotional scars don't go away. I'm well into my mid-life and the Chiron Conjunct ASC thing still manifests itself.

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posted August 06, 2013 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still 14 and I hope I have had the worst of Chiron conjunct ASC.

It left such a long span of fear and timidity and shyness that it's just unbearable. I gained huge amounts of weight because I wouldn't go out it was just terrible.

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posted August 06, 2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami; could this chiron-asc aspect be cooled down because of juno and other aspects to ascendant?

I mean i know a friend who has chiron conjunct ascendant who has had such a terrible gamble at life. born with a small heart, major scars on chest due to operations and bullied so terribly oh its just so cruel.

i mean I was bullied but I would never say as bad as her I would say I had my friends and parents to back onto. They were always there to help and provide support.

could other aspects have changed this?

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posted August 06, 2013 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
aww thats nice what about lilth in 1st? (not conjunct asc)

also what I wonder is, do asteroids take any major difference on your physical appearance?



Well, with Asteroids, they have a very small orb( 2-3 degrees tops). You pay attention when they conjunct angles (ASC etc) and personal planets--Sun, Moon, Venus etc

I am sorry to hear about your bullying, Friend. I am glad you are studying AStrology. It helps you make peace with yourself

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posted August 06, 2013 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno conjuncts my ascendant with an orb of 1 and chiron with an orb of 2.

And my story is nothing compared to my friends which i wrote above. she has been through so much and she deserves the best in life.

astrology is a sort of remedy to find out more about yourself. its sort of a distant answer, it proves the point that 'things happen for a reason' which is why i am so interested in it

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posted August 06, 2013 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also found a description for my lilth in 1st which omg its just so so true

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Lilith in the 1st house
by D.G.Jay from Interpreting Lilith (1981)
<specifically concerning the Dark Moon Lilith ~ but applicable to all Lilith forms ~ mem>

in the 1st Lilith creates an inexhaustible drive for personal identity & a recognition this one feels strangely denied of.

From early on, this one experiences a nagging inner sense of personal denial when projecting himself along the usual day to day lines for mundane gratifications that are naturally subject to the approval or disapproval of others. He feels overlooked ~ unappreciated.

In youth, they feel greatly overshadowed by the personalities of others, inadequate or strangely different, resulting in deeply rooted feelings of inferiority ~ particularly about their personal appearance.

... they feel canceled out by others, particularly when projecting themselves for personal/emotional advantage or approval. Some may compensate for the frustration through a deliberately asserted independence, to draw attention to themselves. Usually it is the wrong kind of attention that they may finally attract, ending with just another frustration, or being disciplined rather than gratified.

There are some who may, on the other hand, simply draw into themselves, appearing mysterious or 'special', until they can find an outlet for self-expression through something they do rather than through themselves personally.

The intellectual or strongly positive types, have more natural ability to be detached, or at least to be more emotionally independent & thus flow more readily with Lilith in the 1st. There are also those among the subjective types who have Uranus strong enough in their charts to finally develop an "I don't care" attitude. They will lose themselves in a creative area or hobby, a mental, social, or technical interest, through which they discover personal satisfactions & eventually their broader identity through achievement. It could also come from simply learning to take a philosophic approach in personal matters.

Any one of these extroverted avenues seeds a less subjective & more detached approach to life in general that works well for the greater maturity of the personality. Self-projection this way, leaves him or her less subject to direct personal approval, but subject, rather, to approval for a special talent which Lilith then brightly focuses.

There is everything positive about Lilith on positive levels, thus in creative areas it is greatly furthering of talent & personal magnetism. Lilith's specialized energy is blocked from positive outlet only when negated within the emotional static of superficial desires becoming denying, frustrating or repressing.

Subjectivity, sentiment & emotionalism are Luna's domain, as Luna rules the emotional soul. It is Lilith that rules the intellectual soul & is anathema to human weakness.

When this one finally depersonalizes; in other words, becomes emotionally liberated from himself (forgets about himself), by viewing life through more objective eyes, strong confidence & a fascinating quality of true specialness arises. It makes this one difficult indeed to overlook.

As Lilith frustrates personality on selfish levels in exaggerates charisma within mental-creative interests, creating a disarming charm & noticeable attracting power.

Lilith elevates on objective levels.

It then brings to this kind of personality, an exuberance that is so automatically attention drawing as to appear flirtatious or coquettish, even though this is far from their intention.

A disarming curiosity is exuded over you as they eagerly seek to 'know' you.
Parallel this with Lilith in Ares.

They can be inspiring instructors & quite charismatic as leaders.
These are one of a kind people.
They are unique.
They are pathfinders.
At the very least you will not find an ordinary type with Lilith in the 1st house.


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posted August 06, 2013 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
Juno conjuncts my ascendant with an orb of 1 and chiron with an orb of 2.

And my story is nothing compared to my friends which i wrote above. she has been through so much and she deserves the best in life.

astrology is a sort of remedy to find out more about yourself. its sort of a distant answer, it proves the point that 'things happen for a reason' which is why i am so interested in it


If Juno conj Chiron, you may have pain with serious relationships, such as marriage. I hate to say that to you when you are so young but that would be one way to say it.

You may have pain when you are loyal and devoted.

On what cusp is the sign of Virgo?

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posted August 06, 2013 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your telling me something I already know. I imagine being in a marriage or getting married and I just find it uncomfortable. I mean I'd defo find it hard to be in a serious relationship. Virgo is on the 10th house cusp (midheaven)

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posted August 06, 2013 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by m.blade:
Your telling me something I already know. I imagine being in a marriage or getting married and I just find it uncomfortable. I mean I'd defo find it hard to be in a serious relationship. Virgo is on the 10th house cusp (midheaven)


Wow, that is amazing you could perceive that when you are so young. You are a special young man and I am glad you are here and part of this community

Ok--to me Virgo rules Chiron so I wanted to see what was here.

A career is very important to you. You reputation and place in society is very important to you. Is that true?

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posted August 06, 2013 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is the most true thing about me. What I want to do (acting) matters to me so much to get where I want to be.

And thank you I enjoy being here; it's nice

Oh and my new chart

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posted August 06, 2013 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you want to be an actor?

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posted August 06, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for m.blade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes really badly it's something i've dreamt of since being a little boy. i have been told by so many it would suit me and that i am dramatic and talkative and it's something just works with me

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