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IrisRainbow
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posted August 09, 2013 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one and a T-square.Am I scr*w*d because I read not so good things about Trapeze or Cradle

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sugarnfeist
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posted August 09, 2013 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarnfeist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a cradle as well. I'm hoping to learn how to overcome it's bad aspects. I hope we aren't screwed.

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IrisRainbow
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posted August 10, 2013 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sugarnfeist:
I have a cradle as well. I'm hoping to learn how to overcome it's bad aspects. I hope we aren't screwed.

Same here.Unfortunately,nobody has info about it.

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sugarnfeist
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posted August 10, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarnfeist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cradle configuration
two x talent triangles or minor grand trines, the outer two linked by an opposition. It seems to be a mixed blessing, with potential but to due them being easy aspects can lack the follow through to achieve. In male charts can lean towards extrovert, and in female charts passive, introvert qualities there is a need to be careful not to scatter energies without achieving much.

“The Cradle configuration has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress - or transform it into creativity”. http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/cradle_configuration.html
http://cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
Cafeastrology calls this aspect Trapeze, which with my own research is not, but something different. The glossary below explains the differences. http://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/astrology/I-so-TOTALLY-have-a-Cradle-2271823.asp

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1554

http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/grandsextile-cradle-aspects.html
“The apex planet can be a source of great creativity that channels the stress into positive, constructive activity, although the stress of the opposition may or may not finally be resolved. The Cradle has two Wedge figures in it, providing two different ways to potentially escape from the stress — or transform it into creativity. However, with so much opportunity to avoid problems, the temptation to take the easy way out is very strong. As a result, with a Cradle configuration in their chart may find it very difficult to resolve/heal the conflicts in their life represented by the opposition”
http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glos…
This last link is the best information available on this aspect

“The more the person can learn to face and resolve the conflict of the opposition, the more they will be able to use the talents and natural abilities in the Cradle in ways that are healthy, constructive and healing. On the other hand, the avoidance of problems can generate some pretty impressive creative ability, in the broadest sense of the word - not just artistic but any innovative, original or imaginative approach to the obstacles and challenges of life.” http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm

FYI I copied this response from a user on Yahoo Answers, name SaggieMC.**I like to give credit when it is due.** http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130427145237AA3ZkWs

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sugarnfeist
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posted August 11, 2013 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarnfeist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what this means for me personally.

Cradle from Moon: 1Vir10'53" to Plu: 26Lib31'28" to Nep: 26Sag55'10" to Merc: 22Aqua39'11

My Cradle aspects:
Moon sextile Pluto
Pluto sextile Neptune
Neptune Sextile Mercury
Moon opposition Mercury
Mercury Trine Pluto
Moon trine Neptune

In order to harness the energy of my Cradle, I must overcome the opposition in my chart, which is Moon opposition Mercury. Literally a struggle between the head and heart. I find this to be very true for me, especially having Moon in Virgo. I have a tendency to rationalize my emotions. I feel I do a good job at balancing my emotional energy and logical thought process. But it cause a lot of indecision for me because I analyze every single thought.

Moon square or opposition Mercury
There is a conflict here between the head and the heart. The emotions tell them one thing and the mind tells them something else. The result is a wavering, and a see-saw effect is most evident with the opposition--emotional to the point of irrationality at one moment, and logical the next. How to blend the head and the heart is a constant struggle for these individuals, usually because there is a tendency to resist blending them!

These people love to chat, enjoy story-telling and writing/poetry, and usually possess a sparkling wit! They are animated when they speak, and have a sense of humor that others appreciate simply because it's very imaginative. Some are especially adept at satire. You can usually tell their moods by how much they're talking. When nervous or excitable, they talk up a storm. Moodiness is a characteristic, definitely, and an especially subjective nature makes them prone to hypersensitivity. It usually has to do with the fact that they take in so very much from their environment. This is also one of the reasons why they tend to be indecisive. While Mercury conjunct Moon people tend to be quite consistently rational, the hard aspects of Moon-Mercury generate a swing between irrational and rational thoughts and feelings. This rarely transfers into action, however. It's pretty much something that takes place "upstairs" in the mind, although others are sure to see the struggle from time to time. These people are always interesting, and usually funny. They have a tendency to misrepresent themselves with what they say from time to time, but they're charming, if a little kooky, friends.

The Cradle is similar in energy to the Grand Sextile.It will be in either Receptive of masculine (Fire and Air) or feminine (Earth and Water).

Like the Grand Sextile, the masculine will incline the individual to react with active drive and an independent attitude, lending an extrovert tendency to the individual.

The feminine will incline the individual to react more passively with a communal attitude, lending an introvert tendency to the individual.

My cradle includes Virgo, Libra, Sagittarius, and Aquarius. Despite having Virgo in the cradle, I would say my cradle is masculine, since it is mostly air, and the Virgo in my chart may function more like Leo in the sextile aspect.

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sugarnfeist
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posted August 11, 2013 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarnfeist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T Square http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_tsquare.shtml
“Two planets in opposition squared to a third. The tension typical of the opposition aspect is aggravated by additional problems introduced by the third planet. Often an obstructive feature blocking the normal flow of behaviour of the person. Person needs to develop activities represented by the "missing" arm of the T-square to achieve wholeness” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astr ... t_patterns http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

“The t-square is exactly like the above configuration except that one of the signs is missing. Time and again this is described as trying to sit in a chair with three legs. Ironically, the individual becomes the fourth leg by acting out the traits which are missing in the chart.” http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/moreaspects2.htm

I copied this response from poster, A55 http://www.bobmarksastrologer.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10413&view=next

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IrisRainbow
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posted August 11, 2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are mine;
Cradle from Ven:
11Gem51'05" to Sat:
7Ari13'11" to Ura:
3Aqu25'20" to T-Square
from Sat: 7Ari13'11" to
Sun: 12Can33'23" and Jup:
12Cap47'30" T-Square from
Sat: 7Ari13'11" to Mer:
4Can03'23" and Jup:
12Cap47'30"

Thank you for the info!I loved it

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sugarnfeist
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posted August 11, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sugarnfeist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IrisRainbow you're welcome. I'm glad I could help. I think any negative aspect in the chart is simply an opportunity for self improvement. Definitely look at your opposition aspect in your cradle and find out what is keeping you stuck. Same with the T-Square, the missing link is what you need to connect with to feel whole.

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