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Liliya
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posted August 09, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Panthera Leo
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posted August 09, 2013 06:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually hear a lot about aspects from Uranus or Neptune to Venus or Mars causing people to be gay,bisexual or pansexual. I am gay myself and I personally don't believe it can be shown in the chart.There isn't a definite way to tell if someone is heterosexual from a chart so I don't think there is a way to tell if someone isn't.

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I am open minded about different lifestyles (though I consider myself relatively conventional) and have a total appreciation for women because they contribute a lot to conversations and I really value their opinions, what they have to say.
I have a prominent Uranus and it's in good aspect to Venus and the moon. It's conjunct three other planets and the AC, Mercury, Jupiter, and Pluto.

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Panthera Leo
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Perhaps you could check out asteroids Sappho and Ganymede.

I actually havemy chart ruler Venus sextile Mars opposed My Retrograde Uranus and Neptune
and Mars trine Uranus and Neptune

Although I do think if you look at at charts of of gay,bisexual or pansexual charts not all of them will have aspects involving Venus,Mars Uranus and Neptune

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posted August 09, 2013 07:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I don't think astrology has much to do with sexuality
It's a completely a natural phenomenon that occurs for whatever reason.
imo population control.

However for fun, I have mars square neptune/uranus and Gaynamede conjunct Jupiter.

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I don't have a prominent Sappho or Ganymed because the aspects would be to wide.

Another one that might Interest you might be Asteroid (1863) Antinous. I imagine it would be quite a dark asteroid.The relationship he had with the Roman emperor Hadrian was quite a dark one.Apparently after he died Hadrian declared Antinous a God an erected many moments to him.Although I think it wasn't really a love story because historians seem to think that Hadrian was desperate to prolong his life and needed a willing sacrifice to complete his ritual.I think Antinous gave his life for Hadrian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous

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I'm not really sure about what the asteroid represents as I can't seem to find much about it.

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I do think that there are people out there who are "multi sexual", but society has such an obsession to group people according to genres and specifics that many have little choice but to fall within the mainstream labels of "gay" , "straight", "bisexual" etc.

These people even start believing that they are "perverted" and try to mask how they feel -because society is so stringent.


What do you call a "straight" man who develops feelings for an intersex individual?

Where do you categorize a "lesbian" woman who has strong affections for a "gay" man?

And how do you label a father of three children who shares passionate sexcapades with his buddies but still professes to be very much inlove with his wife?

If a rule has exceptions, it ceases to be a rule.

And I also don't buy the idea of "population control".

There are heterosexual couples who adopt-because of their inability o procreate and just because a man is gay or a woman is lesbian, doesn't necessarily mean that their sperm count becomes invalid(in the first instance) or the eggs cease to function (in the second).

If you can find "indicators" of homosexuality in the birth chart , then I am to assume that you can also find indicators of Black Individuals, Hispanic individuals, Asian individuals, Tatooed individuals, Individuals with disabilities, Individuals who are criminals etc.

I used to think Uranus had something to do with it. But I've also met too many Mars prominent individuals who identify as "gay".

Its up in th air, much like "belief" and customs.

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posted August 10, 2013 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geminis are known to have a thing for "variety" and maybe Aquarius would try too.
Truth is,I've felt attraction towards a girl I met once and she did too.It was weird because we are both straight,we became good friends afterwards.

I have Venus Conjunct Mars in Gemini Trine Uranus in Aquarius and moon in aquarius.
My Uranus conjuncted her Sun/Venus/Mars.

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posted August 10, 2013 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meyray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may not be an indicator of homosexuality per se but I think that females with Moon conjunct Venus have a very strong appreciation for women and the feminine. They tend to idolize women and find them beautiful, sometimes this admiration could turn sexual (this is Venus after all).

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posted August 10, 2013 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not really so sure about it being shown in the natal chart either, but I do have both Neptune and Uranus conjunct Venus like Panthera Leo mentioned and I'm a gay male.

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posted August 10, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Panthera Leo:
I think the reason a lot of Bisexuals don't come out is because they don't like the part of themselves that likes the same sex and have difficulty dealing with it.Then they try to distract others by downplaying their Bisexuality and saying I am only a little bit attracted to the members of the same sex so I'm really Straight but at the same time they want to be able to be hold onto their bisexuality.These types of Bisexuals are uncomfortable with people knowing the truth but at the same the want to be able to be part of the club yet look down at people at people who are completely honest about their sexuality

At least here in the states bisexuals are just as likely to be shunned (and worse) by gays as by straights. Hateful straights see them as deviants. Hateful gays see them as people who can (and probably will) leave them behind to suffer while the bisexual ultimately rejects the L/G to pass for straight (dropping any gay lovers to do so), in addition to other negative stereotypes. As a result it's very common for bisexuals to claim to be straight when with someone straight and to claim to be gay when with a gay partner because the prejudice of both sides simply isn't worth it (not unlike how many biracial people used to try to pass as completely one race or another when they could).

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posted August 10, 2013 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience bisexuality is very common.
Or specifically being bi-curious.

Dudes having the "weird" desire to suck a d...

Personally I think it strange when someone is 100% gay and 100% straight..
most of the time they are lying to themselves.

However romance and sexuality are completely different.

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posted August 10, 2013 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Human sexuality is way too fluid to be defined by astrological aspects.

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posted August 10, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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seem to think its only bisexuals experience but at he same time are trying to make out everybody swings both ways.

Huh? Seriously, how did you get that out of what I said?

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Kerosene
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posted August 10, 2013 06:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't mean to offend anyone on such a silly topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

If you really identify as 100 percent gay than that's just wonderful. It really does not bother me in the least bit.
Did you even read my post?
Sex and love are completely different things...

I don't make it my life's goal to study human sexuality, from what I've noticed it's common for straight people(those who love the opposite sex) to be curious and occasionally if their open minded they will explore.

Nothing is really black and white.

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Kerosene
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Everyone in the lgbt community is so touchy and dramatic.
This is why I avoid them because you cant have discussions about sexuality with out them hollering over the hills...

Hmm
Well enjoy your black and white labels, no need to be bent out of shape about this topic.

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posted August 10, 2013 07:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe I wouldn't be bent out of shape if you didn't try to wind me up

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