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Topic: Rejecting too good compatibility??
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Hera
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posted August 10, 2013 06:38 AM
  
I've noticed lately that I seem to get along better with people who square and oppose my chart vs people who trine and sextile it. I am thinking of a bunch of people with whom I have great synastry, but who seem very different/foreign to me and we're unable to see eye to eye. There is some sort of underlying affection/sympathy there, but it doesn't keep things from getting weird when we're just not on the same page. I am also thinking that all that positive compatibility raises expectations so when you argue with them, it's more disappointing.
On the other side of the rainbow I am finding it easier to relate with people I share hard aspects with. Now this is creepy! I can find an explanation for the first part, but this?? They still annoy me, I'm not gonna lie, but they make me want to work towards an understanding, whereas the first group makes me grab my toys and leave at the first disagreement. Has anyone been through this? I imagine it's just a phase, but what does it mean? lol Am I reacting to such length to Uranus conj Sun that I am rebelling against synastry?? lol ------------------
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 10, 2013 06:50 AM
Hi Hera,Maybe it's because you want some tension in your associations; when the energy is flowing too easily, it may feel unnatural or boring to you.
Especially since you have some intense oppositions in your chart. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 10, 2013 07:05 AM
Too good compatibilty would be boring for an Aries, you may like some drama.IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 10, 2013 07:41 AM
Hahaha, that may be true! 
However I don't see myself getting along with bad synastry people in the long term. I mean, of course I like some sense of struggle, but I don't want to get to think of them as my frenemies.
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Ceridwen
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posted August 10, 2013 07:43 AM
It`s because of your natal chart.Trines and sextiles will never reach deep enough for you. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 10, 2013 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It`s because of your natal chart.Trines and sextiles will never reach deep enough for you.
Sighs.. I am doomed. *bangs head on the table*
I am starting to think it's because of my 4 squares to my Asc. Obviously whatever squares my Asc, also squares my DC.. 
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Ceridwen
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posted August 10, 2013 07:51 AM
it`s not a sign of doom.Keeps your life interesting. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 10, 2013 07:53 AM
For now it kinda keeps it empty Can't get along with good synastry. The bad synastry will eventually wear me off. There's just no winning in this case! *cries* IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted August 10, 2013 07:57 AM
^ I feel you. *hugs*Same thing here. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted August 10, 2013 10:41 AM
Oh, but think of all the interesting tales you'll have to tell! "And they all lived happily ever after" is like the death of the story. "Give me squares and oppositions or give me death!" (Uh, I'll take the squares and oppostions for $500 please.) IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 10, 2013 11:10 AM
LOLYes.
BTW synastric aspects on their own only say something about "CHEMISTRY", about Unlocking a door, which is symbolised by the planet they aspect (so they might unlock the Door Moon or Sun or Pluto), but blissfully unaware and not taking responsibility what is BEHIND that door (unlock my Venus-Door and you will see what you have from this!).
But COMPATIBILITY never - and yes I mean it N.E.V.E.R- is an issue of a synastric aspect (as an isolated aspect), but is always a matter of the natal configurations (that which is behind MY door and how it fits/ complements what is behind YOUR Door). In this respect even trines can be more than a little "shady". All they say that the key will not be screeching but moving like butter while your Sun (by trine) is unlocking my Venus-door (while behind that Venus-Door Cerberus itself is sitting waiting to be unleashed). The unleashing will happen very smoothly and quietly (without other planets noticing even), though my Venus-Cerberus can run free, create fear and panic and consume itself and anything else in its way. Do I even know what I want to say?
No, like usually, not at all. IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted August 10, 2013 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOLYes.
BTW synastric aspects on their own only say something about "CHEMISTRY", about Unlocking a door, which is symbolised by the planet they aspect (so they might unlock the Door Moon or Sun or Pluto), but blissfully unaware and not taking responsibility what is BEHIND that door (unlock my Venus-Door and you will see what you have from this!).
But COMPATIBILITY never - and yes I mean it N.E.V.E.R- is an issue of a synastric aspect (as an isolated aspect), but is always a matter of the natal configurations (that which is behind MY door and how it fits/ complements what is behind YOUR Door). In this respect even trines can be more than a little "shady". All they say that the key will not be screeching but moving like butter while your Sun (by trine) is unlocking my Venus-door (while behind that Venus-Door Cerberus itself is sitting waiting to be unleashed). The unleashing will happen very smoothly and quietly (without other planets noticing even), though my Venus-Cerberus can run free, create fear and panic and consume itself and anything else in its way. Do I even know what I want to say?
No, like usually, not at all.
This makes sense to me. 
I can draw women in, not necessarily at will. HAHAHAHA!
But with Virgo Venus/Mars I can be a little distant and my Gemini moon needs a gf for itself.
I'm not kidding! I get the "Pay more attention to me" thing a lot. It's like, "Just hang on honey. I have like a billion other things going on. I have to keep this damn Jack Russel Terrier happy!" LOL IP: Logged |
Blackbird
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posted August 10, 2013 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
I am starting to think it's because of my 4 squares to my Asc.
That sounds familiar.
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My natal chart
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AscTaurus
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posted August 11, 2013 03:27 AM
I have Sun-Uranus conjunct natally in Sag.I totally understand. But are you around the company of these people for a long time? Coz I most certainly can't tolerate square for long, it's really too much. But the trines/sextile/ conjunctions can be boorrring at isht too Coz to me, Uranus is always looking for a "fresh" new angle of looking at things and doing away with old patterns of reasoning. So the square and opposition offers such "inspiration" whereas the sextile/trine/ conjunction easy aspects can make it seem, when disagreeing, that these people are not seeing what's so bloody "obvious" etc. You know the saying; "We are quick to forgive the wound of strangers but the errors of a loved one can evoke the deepest resentment"? Conjunction/sextile/trines feel like "loved" ones and so, when they disagree with you, it may feel more personal. Like all your reasoning is not "out of the ordinary" or "profound". But with strangers ; squares/ oppositions the disagreements feel like an irritation where you believe the "other" will eventually come around to your way of looking at things. The appeal is that you got to that point first before they did.
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Hera
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posted August 11, 2013 04:47 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
LOLYes.
BTW synastric aspects on their own only say something about "CHEMISTRY", about Unlocking a door, which is symbolised by the planet they aspect (so they might unlock the Door Moon or Sun or Pluto), but blissfully unaware and not taking responsibility what is BEHIND that door (unlock my Venus-Door and you will see what you have from this!).
But COMPATIBILITY never - and yes I mean it N.E.V.E.R- is an issue of a synastric aspect (as an isolated aspect), but is always a matter of the natal configurations (that which is behind MY door and how it fits/ complements what is behind YOUR Door). In this respect even trines can be more than a little "shady". All they say that the key will not be screeching but moving like butter while your Sun (by trine) is unlocking my Venus-door (while behind that Venus-Door Cerberus itself is sitting waiting to be unleashed). The unleashing will happen very smoothly and quietly (without other planets noticing even), though my Venus-Cerberus can run free, create fear and panic and consume itself and anything else in its way. Do I even know what I want to say?
No, like usually, not at all.
Hahaha no, I understand what you're saying. Would you give composites more weight than synastry, in regards to the chances of a relationship's survival? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 11, 2013 06:17 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
Hahaha no, I understand what you're saying. Would you give composites more weight than synastry, in regards to the chances of a relationship's survival?
No, I wouldn`t.
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Hera
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posted August 11, 2013 06:21 AM
So it's really all about the natals matching up. I would add duads in there too, for me at least I think they play a good part in whom I attract/whom I am attracted to. Ceri, do you know what's it called when planets arrange themselves in pairs in a chart? I'm wrecking my brain to remember. I made a thread about that but nobody knows  IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 11, 2013 06:47 AM
Do you mean a "Duet"?Like my Sun and Mercury being conjunct each other but unaspected otherwise?
I am always on the fence about Duads. sometimes I find them important, other times not.
For example I have never been attracted to the Duad of my Mars (2 Aquarius). On the other hand it is certainly no coincidence that I am attracted to Mars or Venus on around 11 Virgo (my Duad Venus is on 13 Pisces, but of course my Jupiter is close there as well). But from a theoretic perspective, yes, I think the add something. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 11, 2013 06:56 AM
No, not duets. It is about conjunctions but not necessarily unaspected by other planets. Someone read my chart on astro.com forum a few years ago and told me my chart shows this tendency and that it's kind of rare. But their archive only goes back to 2012 and I think I posted that in '10/'11. I haven't been on astro.com in years.
Ceri, have you also encountered charts where there is an attraction that doesn't seem to be explained by anything, synastry/comp/duads/dracos etc but it's still there and quite powerful?
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Hera
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posted August 11, 2013 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
You know the saying; "We are quick to forgive the wound of strangers but the errors of a loved one can evoke the deepest resentment"? Conjunction/sextile/trines feel like "loved" ones and so, when they disagree with you, it may feel more personal.
This makes a lot of sense to me!! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 11, 2013 08:01 AM
"It is about conjunctions but not necessarily unaspected by other planets."
Can you give an example from your chart?
"Ceri, have you also encountered charts where there is an attraction that doesn't seem to be explained by anything, synastry/comp/duads/dracos etc but it's still there and quite powerful?"
No. But I have encounterd many astrologers who couldn´t read a chart in context.  To be honest. All you need is the natal and the synastry. If it is not in there, then either it is not in there. Period.
Or you are missing something vital. Oh one exception - Progressed charts. They can be damned strong. I wonder what will remain from my craziness about Mr Sag, if my pr Venus in Aquarius FINALLY will move away from the square to his URanus. LOL IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 11, 2013 08:09 AM
I don´t always like the lecturing-soap-box tone of Mr Basil Fearrington (reminds me too much of myself I guess ),
but he has some valid points and a good grasp on how this stuff works.Personally I favour Dawn Bodrogi more, but they are pretty much doing astrology as I would do it, if I did it. However, staying on topic and on your question,
it is a mystery to me why I am reacting so strongly to Mr Sag. And yes, I guess it is a hormonal reaction, too. Not just the emotional yadda-yadda-da. But why?
Hormonal sparks make me think of Venus-Mars, maybe 5th house. But it`s not really there.
Well yes it is nice that his Mrs-Jupiter is trining my Venus by 4-5 degrees. But that is it. NICE.
Not an explanation. I am looking down at the chart and I KNOW I am missing something. It`s like looking at it, and for some reason being not able to SEE it, you know? But it`s there, in the way our natals align. And a clear emotional/ instinctual reaction will always be depicted by a clear astrological statement.
Clear. Loud. Not a cuddly mushy Venus-Mars-trine at the edge of allowance of orb. lol Well, maybe it is really his Uranus squaring my progressed Venus. That is LOUD.
(and Venus rules my 5th house natally). (it is also maybe not too subtle that his pr DSC is conjunct my natal Mars and ASC. lol)
However, we have a weirdly strong resonance of natal configurations involving Venus or the 5th house rulers,t oo.
Like we both have Venus in Capricorn, squared by Pluto and sextiled by Uranus. We both have the rulers of 5th house and 11th house in square aspect. We both have strong interrelation between the rulers of 2nd and 8th house. It is just a natal parallel, not strong enough to depict and actual response or trigger (you need an aspect to do that). But it is probably providing a background for whatever aspect really is responsible for this reaction of mine. EDIT:
Dracos are a bit insane though.
Plus his natal Mars opposes my Duad Venus. His Duad Mars is in the same sign as my natal Venus. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted August 11, 2013 11:53 AM
What about a chart heavy in conjunctions, what would they prefer?Because it's not really harsh OR harmonious, is it? Maybe someone who agrees with them on everything? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 11, 2013 11:57 AM
with the conjunctions, have a look what other aspects are to the conjunctions. IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted August 13, 2013 04:17 PM
i feel your pain, i've had guys attracted to me who's venus went well with my venus, and my venus went well with his mars, our moon vs. sun action was even good, etc. etc. everything was great with them and i felt like i'd fallen into a safe bubble but there was too smooth, there was nothing there....no sexual tension, no fight, no challenge....no fun.i never even wanted to wrestle them lol, just maybe cuddle and that felt almost parental, ew. IP: Logged |
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