posted August 10, 2013 09:28 PM            

So, I had an Astrology reading once and this is what was pointed out to me. I forget the name of the yoga, but I have Male signs and was born during the day.
Libra ASC
Leo SUN
Gemini MOON
Apparently this makes me very masculine. I don't feel it!
I don't recall one single woman who I've had ANY intimacy with who was someone that I pursued. Each and every one of them has done the initiating. The Astrologer said that this is because most likely they had one or two male signs in their chart, making them more aggressive.
They pointed out that I need to find someone with female signs and if I do it will be someone who I feel comfortable pursuing and will have fun doing so.

Thoughts?

posted August 10, 2013 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Zander916:
Sounds like I'm hosed. LOL
Which is pretty much what it's been like.

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posted August 10, 2013 10:47 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So, your relationships do not work out? How long do they last, on average? Twelfth house planets can complicate things. I have four planets in twelve, the sun, too, if I use Koch or Equal. I also have Mercury in the twelfth. I find relationships to be the most difficult part of my existence :/ Maybe it's because I have three planets closely conjunct the ascendant, one of them being Uranus.

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Pardon if I'm chatty.

No, they don't work out. I would say generally speaking they last about a year. But I've had longer and was married for four years once, with the total span of that relationship about 6 years. I could whip up her chart if desired, but she had Cancer Sun and Leo moon.

I feel kind of... hopeless I guess is the right word. But I'm not necessarily unhappy being alone. I SOOOOO value my alone time and that's been a problem in pretty much any relationship. I am not allowed it, or nearly enough of it.

I do have to thank all of you for your insight. I did research on many of the things that you all have pointed out. Of those, the number one thing that I see VERY VERY clearly is what I read about the Neptune Venus Square. That must be an intensely powerful aspect. I believe that to be responsible for two things mostly, maybe three.
1 - Letting my dream world mesh with reality and seeing positive things that don't actually exist. Leading to relationships that should never have been started.
2 - Similar kind of reason leading to hanging on to relationships for far too long.

OH! A third thing of that aspect I see. The stupid idea of desiring people who are unattainable/unavailable. Not that I sit here and plan it. It just seems to happen that way with my feelings.

Another thing, the Moon 9th house and being surrounded by women and benefiting from them.

From early in life I've always been connected with women. Family, or otherwise. Just women everywhere. I'm not sure what kinds of benefits are from them but I definitely had one from the ex-wife. It was almost like that was actually her purpose in my life.

I seem to draw in insecure partners, jealous partners, clingy, smothering. I mean like... sitting together, I get up. "Where are you going?" I'm like, "umm... I'm going to the bathroom." Sometimes it was like every movement had to be accounted for. And the jealousy.... I have no idea. LOL! I've never given a person a reason to be jealous.

Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. It kind of makes me feel doomed in a way, as in, things completely out of my control. BUT, on the other hand, it's also comforting because it answers a lot of questions of why these patterns exist.

posted August 10, 2013 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Zander916:
Pardon if I'm chatty.

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No, they don't work out. I would say generally speaking they last about a year. But I've had longer and was married for four years once, with the total span of that relationship about 6 years. I could whip up her chart if desired, but she had Cancer Sun and Leo moon.

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I feel kind of... hopeless I guess is the right word. But I'm not necessarily unhappy being alone. I SOOOOO value my alone time and that's been a problem in pretty much any relationship. I am not allowed it, or nearly enough of it.

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I do have to thank all of you for your insight. I did research on many of the things that you all have pointed out. Of those, the number one thing that I see VERY VERY clearly is what I read about the Neptune Venus Square. That must be an intensely powerful aspect. I believe that to be responsible for two things mostly, maybe three.
1 - Letting my dream world mesh with reality and seeing positive things that don't actually exist. Leading to relationships that should never have been started.
2 - Similar kind of reason leading to hanging on to relationships for far too long.

OH! A third thing of that aspect I see. The stupid idea of desiring people who are unattainable/unavailable. Not that I sit here and plan it. It just seems to happen that way with my feelings.

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Another thing, the Moon 9th house and being surrounded by women and benefiting from them.

From early in life I've always been connected with women. Family, or otherwise. Just women everywhere. I'm not sure what kinds of benefits are from them but I definitely had one from the ex-wife. It was almost like that was actually her purpose in my life.

I seem to draw in insecure partners, jealous partners, clingy, smothering. I mean like... sitting together, I get up. "Where are you going?" I'm like, "umm... I'm going to the bathroom." Sometimes it was like every movement had to be accounted for. And the jealousy.... I have no idea. LOL! I've never given a person a reason to be jealous.

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Anyway, I appreciate the feedback. It kind of makes me feel doomed in a way, as in, things completely out of my control. BUT, on the other hand, it's also comforting because it answers a lot of questions of why these patterns exist.

EDIT: Oh, and desiring an intelligent and chatty partner who has discriminating tastes and is sensitive. That truly does sound appealing!

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posted August 10, 2013 11:53 PM            

Firstly, whew... thank you SO much for trying to match my chattiness. You have NO idea how much I love it. You may or may not be surprised at the fact that I'm known for being quiet actually. Part of it is this brain moves too quick for my mouth.

I think this restlessness is HUGE! I can sit at this computer for long periods, but I might have a video playing, 4 or 5 tabs open. I've watched University videos on the internet teaching Human Microbiology... FOR FUN! LOL I have a gigantic need for new and interesting information. My partners seem to fall into a an EXTREMELY predictable routine. My intuition is also top notch, making prediction a little easier. So boredom is real and so is falling out of love. This is getting personal but I'm open. The ex-wife left for this other guy. I was upset naturally, but only for my wounded Leo Ego. When the day came that she physically left our place. I felt free... released. Getting that realization of my own feelings, there's not one bitter cell in my entire body. I see it as a good thing that it all took place to be honest. That was almost CERTAINLY the result of boredom. We didn't fight... we just didn't do anything!
Others.... well there's two sides to every story but in my view, it could be jealousy combined with being clingy. I'm as faithful as the sun. (surprise... LEO) But I still require freedom and time alone. I need a little of that new and interesting information each and every day and time for my imagination to run wild, and time for my scattered thoughts to line up. If not, I WILL fight for it and can even just be a butthole, because I know it will grant me that freedom, even if they are mad at me. It's like water... I can't live without those things.

Okay, sorry... I'm probably annoying. I'll try to wrap this up!
I am capable for falling for someone who's married. It's happened. As far as my friends girlfriends. I consider that kind of like taboo. Even if they break up and she's single... it's still taboo to me pretty much.

The cycle... for SOME reason, I bring them comfort and security. I don't know where it comes from. Even we've nearly just met and had a single date. It's not uncommon for them to mention it and feel like they've known me for a long time.
But THEN... when things get much more serious and my time is demanded more. They figure out that I need quite a bit of alone time than they expected and I think that spurs on some insecurity. But I do believe it already existed, hence why they were so drawn in the first place.
You know, and I mean like... a couple hours this day or that day. Or half of a Saturday with my best friend. If they want to join, no problem! They usually don't want to though, so then I get repeated texts or calls asking when I'm coming home or to hurry. Then it kind of spoils my time and makes me feel annoyed.
OH, do think of my ideal partner, but not on television or anything. It's in my head. I tell myself over and over not to settle for less.

Okay I'll be quiet. *looking down at the floor*

posted August 11, 2013 12:09 AM            

With Mercury in Virgo, your mind thirsts for constant stimulation, probably. You might get bored easily. Virgo planets tend to reach stalemates then they cope in unpredictable ways. Sun in Virgo can do this, a little. I've always struggled with boredom.

posted August 11, 2013 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:

Zander - I like to be quiet at times. It's a Mercury in twelfth house thing. I can be extremely talkative when I feel like it, too. It's either feast or famine. Hey, my Mercury is about one degree from your ascendant, Jupiter is around two. I have three planets and ascendant within ten degrees Libra, the first decan. Explains the chattiness

With Mercury in Virgo, your mind thirsts for constant stimulation, probably. You might get bored easily. Virgo planets tend to reach stalemates then they cope in unpredictable ways. Sun in Virgo can do this, a little. I've always struggled with boredom.

I agree Mercury is important in your chart. I wonder about your Leo sun and it's strength since the sun rules this sign. The chart ruler in twelve explains why you don't feel so close to your sun placement, maybe?

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Wow, that's cool about our closer Astrological connections. Also awesome that at least ONE of us has a good grasp on these things.
Did you mention your sun or moon sign? I'm curious what they are.

Oh, in your earlier post about being idealistic and such concerning relationships or your partner. I DEFINITELY have that, or had it. I don't know your experiences, but I've been taught that lesson the hard way enough that I... am pretty cautious about that I guess but it still gets me.

posted August 11, 2013 12:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Zander916:
Wow, that's cool about our closer Astrological connections. Also awesome that at least ONE of us has a good grasp on these things.
Did you mention your sun or moon sign? I'm curious what they are.

Oh, in your earlier post about being idealistic and such concerning relationships or your partner. I DEFINITELY have that, or had it. I don't know your experiences, but I've been taught that lesson the hard way enough that I... am pretty cautious about that I guess but it still gets me.

My Leo Sun? Oh, no doubt I feel it! It sometimes gets eclipsed by the Mercurial energy but it's there, no question. It's funny that the first several times that I read about Leo I was thinking, "naaah... I'm not even close to that!"
But I am. There are Leos who are not "showy" and that's me. But... now I'm letting all of my secrets out of the bag! I feel belly exposed! If I enter into a room of people. I won't do SQUAT to draw attention to myself, but secretly, it's very much desired.
In a relationship? Absolutely. I may not want to be center stage of the world, but I want to be center stage of my partners world. I'm not overly dominant, pushy, etc. But I'm sensitive to respect. I give it... it's not one way, but if I DON'T GET it, flames flare up. It won't be a big show, but I'll send a clear message that I won't take it.
Like simmering coals... if you are gentle about putting logs on the fire... you'll get a warm glowing flame. If you just throw crap in there... cinders fly.

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It's no surprise you kinda hold back with Venus as your chart ruler in Virgo. I know a Libra with Venus in Virgo only she has Sagittarius ascending. Still, Venus rules her sun sign and she's quiet and reserved. She has a lot of the Virgo traits, very unemotional. Think total Virgo/Libra with a splash of Sagittarius - that's her!

My sun sign is Virgo, I have a Taurus moon. In fact my moon squares your sun in Leo, lol and it's EXACT! Both are at 27 degrees no joke! I don't expect crockery to go flying through the air anytime soon, lol. No worries here, because I have fire and air planets to compensate. Venus and Mars are both in fire like your sun. I have three air planets, I tend to get on well with Gemini placements, where your moon is. Also, you have Jupiter at 29 Taurus, that' right next to my moon so that's helpful!

Book descriptions can be a bit cycloptic. I mostly cannot relate to sun in Virgo because I am not practical or organized, I don't nag people. I am shy and quiet but that could be interpreted through a twelfth house dominance in my chart. I have Venus in Leo, I can relate to it, somewhat, since I am an only child and am used to having things go my way most the time, lol.

posted August 11, 2013 01:11 AM            

My LOOOOOOONG time best friend who I actually consider to be my brother. Recently I've actually considered investigating ways to make it legal, if it's possible. Neither of us has brothers! He also has a Virgo Sun, and his Moon is Gemini like mine. I don't recall all his placements off hand but he's Pisces Rising. We NEVER have problems! It's always always enjoyable! It's REALLY spooky sometimes how one of us will be JUST about ready to comment on something and the other says it pretty much word for word! It never fails to leave me shocked.
He doesn't seem like a Virgo to me at all! He can spend enormous amounts of time alone though. Otherwise, his mind is buzzing just as mine does. At his desk, he has two computers (I think he only uses one mostly). He has 3 22" monitors and a huge TV all connected to his computer, and he uses all them! Not too far fetched from myself though.

posted August 11, 2013 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Your best friend's Virgo sun and everything else in that sign could fall in your twelfth house which might explain that deep feeling of friendship you feel. Twelfth house is all about those subliminal thoughts and non verbal communication. It is thought of as the turbulently emotional house, psychic, all encompassing, omniscient. It knows all

Do you have psychic experiences with Mercury here? What about dreams? Mercury here does help escape mentally.

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Ahhh... you've been so helpful! Things are making sense! I'm continually stunned by Astrology. I can't imagine what it's like to be able to read it so well. Great tool though! If you know someone's birth info.

I dream TONS! Lots of dreams but they never make sense to me and are sometimes a little disturbing. Nothing that's been predictive or anything like that.
I wouldn't say that I have psychic abilities either. Not what I would call psychic. Just intuition but it's just... I can't even come up with a word. It's very very strong.
The internet of course provides a cover for people. But if I meet someone in person, or even not being introduced. If I see someone in passing or sometimes a few encounters might be needed I can quickly get a snapshot of their personality and thought patterns. It just comes to me! I see the way they carry themselves, their face, and particularly the eyes. Not just looking into them, but where they are looking, how relaxed or tense they eyes or whole face is. How their face responds to others. The way they dress, do their hair, etc. None of it is singled out, it's combined to create a picture.

I've had a lot of internal warnings about people (coworkers, etc) and I've ignored the warnings based on the idea of "don't judge a book by its' cover." However, later on my intuition proves to be correct!
I won't sit here and talk it up like it never backfires, but rarely.

posted August 11, 2013 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It's getting late so you are probably getting very very sleepy

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posted August 11, 2013 02:58 AM            

Well, I'll be around for while as you know. :-)
Either way, it's been really great even though we talked about me mostly.

posted August 11, 2013 03:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Zander916:
Uh-oh! At least it's Saturday.
I have trouble without help sometimes.

Well, I'll be around for while as you know. :-)
Either way, it's been really great even though we talked about me mostly.

Now you know both from experience and astrologically that I'm almost always up for a chat. So anytime that you get an urge, if you do at all.... I might scare ya. Lol

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posted August 11, 2013 03:20 AM            

Whew! I don't feel quite so strange now about being wordy. Essays in school were no problem.
Part of it is trying to find a way to get all of these thoughts out. Another is, and this doesn't make much sense to me, but I struggled with communication for a long time - constantly being misunderstood. Still occurs sometimes.

Maybe if she comes back the two of us will overload you.