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the89freespirit
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posted August 11, 2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I just don't get people with their Moon in Gemini, Libra, or Aquarius. Astrologically, I know why they are the way they are but I just find them quite frustrating anyway.

And, if anyone has an Air Moon, don't take this as negative or as a rant. I'm just trying to figure you guys out and it's actually more fascination than anything.

I've found I can get along fairly well with any of the other Moons. They all have their issues, of course, but every single really special, close relationship I've had has been with anyone BUT an Air Moon.

I just find it so frustratingly difficult to truly connect with them. It's like something's missing. Interactions with them just feel so HOLLOW. Sure, they can be amazingly nice, witty, smart, charming, polite. They can even be very insightful about people in an intellectual kind of way. But, it's like there's this giant disconnect at the end of the day.

I know me being a Scorpio Moon has to do with it. Water and Air just don't mix, AT ALL. Water's opposite element should be Air and not Earth. (I love, love Earth Moons, by the way). As a Water Moon, I just relate to people in such a very different way.

So, can anybody chime into this discussion? I know I can't generalize all Air Moons but I'm just talking about the ones I've experienced (and, by the way, my mother and father both happen to have their Moon in Air - mom: lunar Gemini, dad: lunar Libra - so I've had a lifetime of experience but I still don't get them )

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posted August 11, 2013 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol I don't envy you. I certainly don't get Libra Moons either. I honestly don't know how their minds work. Never related closely to one, to my knowledge.

However, I have my Moon at the end of the 11th house and apparently it helps, it gives it an Aqua flavor. My mom is Aqua Moon too, I have Aqua Moon friends and dated one too. Yeah, they do detach but somehow doesn't bother me, I am a free spirit myself.

My understanding of it, coming from the 11th house Moon, is a need to look at your emotions objectively, as if they were not your own. I do that too and the detachment came in handy a lot of times, certainly brought a lot of insight and clarity, something my fire Moon could not have come up with on its own fiery, impulsive nature. It doesn't mean they don't have or feel emotions, FAR from it. They just intellectualize them more than others.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, here's one way to try and understand the different moons.

Fire moons have very "hot" emotions that can flare up suddenly but burn out quickly.

Earth moons emotions go deep but in a very stable way and are hard to change once set (like footprints made in mud then dried).

Water moons emotions fluctuate like tides but also can go very deep.

Air moons are generally so light that they can blow away before they even register! Because of this, they can seem very cool and detached, like nothing really moves them much. Most of the time it's just soft breezes that barely stroke the skin. Occasionally the winds can blow strong like a hurricane or tornado, but you won't want to be around them when this happens. If you set off an air moon to this point, it's time to head for the storm cellar!

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posted August 11, 2013 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think air moons can be very compassionate but we're extremely detached, we keep our emotions hidden because its not really required in day to day use. We feel our emotions should be expressed constructively and privately.

We can clean up your vomit with a smile on our face because hey, these things happen we can deal with your issues after this.

To me honest, I like to think of happy things and I want to feel good.
I'm rarely depressed.
My father is a libra moon and I've rarely seen him sad, well openly.
He's always chipper.

Anyways I don't emotionally connect with just anyone.
I've only ever had a hear to heart and cried with two people in my entire life.

I leave my problems at home and leave my house with a smile on my face.
Personally I don't understand people who mope around in public or at work...
It just brings everyone down.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hera, yeah having an 11th house Moon must give you a bit of an Aquarius Moon flavor. It's funny that your Mom is also an Aquarius Moon. Goes to show that there's often some Moon sign similarity between mother and child. Although my mom is a Gemini Moon, it's also square Pluto, which reflects my Scorpio Moon. But, I find that, while it gives her a very intense energy, it also makes her all the more dissociative/schizophrenic with her feelings as well.

I get that Air Moons have feelings, like all humans do. The Moon sign element just shows how we deal with them. The logical approach to their emotions can go both ways. It can be helpful at times, but other times it's just plain frustrating. They insist on being rational so much that it's irrational sometimes, haha.

@Jkitty, that's a good way of breaking down the different Moons. Yes, Air Moons can all of a sudden have very emotional moments, like an unexpected gust of wind. Then, it disappears just as suddenly. And it's not in the Fire Moon way of "Well, I got that off of my chest, I feel better, let's move on." With Air Moons, it's just in the blink of an eye. Almost rationalized out of existence.

Like I said, I find that really odd but fascinating in a way. I kind of want to just study them, haha.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
I just find it so frustratingly difficult to truly connect with them. It's like something's missing. Interactions with them just feel so HOLLOW. Sure, they can be amazingly nice, witty, smart, charming, polite. They can even be very insightful about people in an intellectual kind of way. But, it's like there's this giant disconnect at the end of the day.

^ This.

Air Moons can be lovely.

But there's usually something missing on a deep level.

It's like you just can't reach them no matter what you do, and I don't know if it's because they're truly that.. "shallow" or if it's because they build a fortress around their heart.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LiesLilithsaidtouranus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Gemini moon, which is in the 2nd house and I can see where Water and Earth sign moons come from. I understand the need to have feelings come out in situations and I love connecting with someone emotionally.
I dislike dealing with Aquarius moons. I am an Aquarius sun, but if I had to remove a moon it would be the Aquarius one. I feel like they have no feelings, and some even border to mental problems. I hate them!

Anyways, back on topic.

Air moons, remove themselves from situations. They do not get too emotional, I find they only react emotional with people they are romantically close to. We like being happy. We hate being upset, but when we do get upset, best believe we point fingers at everyone.

We like feeling short range of emotions, not the full spectrum. We are like turtles? We are kind of slow to react emotionally in certain situations, but very quick to defend ourselves. We either hide back in our shells, or bite.

We don't connect because we know where that will lead us to.

We just like having carefree lives.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:

I leave my problems at home and leave my house with a smile on my face.
Personally I don't understand people who mope around in public or at work...
It's just bring everyone down.


That's another thing I've found with Air Moons is that their expression of their feelings is very, very influenced by social expectations. It's like any emotion that's "inappropriate" or "selfish" can't be expressed openly, especially not in public. But, also, on a one-on-one level, too.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
@Hera, yeah having an 11th house Moon must give you a bit of an Aquarius Moon flavor. It's funny that your Mom is also an Aquarius Moon. Goes to show that there's often some Moon sign similarity between mother and child. Although my mom is a Gemini Moon, it's also square Pluto, which reflects my Scorpio Moon. But, I find that, while it gives her a very intense energy, it also makes her all the more dissociative/schizophrenic with her feelings as well.

I get that Air Moons have feelings, like all humans do. The Moon sign element just shows how we deal with them. The logical approach to their emotions can go both ways. It can be helpful at times, but other times it's just plain frustrating. They insist on being rational so much that it's irrational sometimes, haha.


I do get what you're saying. My duad Moon is actually in Scorpio. Plus I have an exact conjunction to Neptune. This gives my Moon a Fire (Sag), Air (11H) and Water (Neptune/Scorpio) flavor. I have very complex emotions that are hard to understand even for myself. But I feel I am able to relate with a lot of people because of this mix. Even the earth Moons, because my Moon is 29 Sag, could have been Cap if I was born 1-2 hours later.

Sometimes their detachment frustrates me too. Especially if I am blowing smoke through my nose if I'm on fire mode or very sappy and sentimental if I'm on water mode. But I believe we're all mixed up to a point, it's just a matter of being flexible and synch with another.


EDIT: BTW, my Mom's Aqua Moon is opposite her Pluto in Leo. So I know VERY well what you're saying. The thing that I still cannot forgive my mom for, is her inability to deal with the fact that I had an inappropriate relationship with my father. I believe she knew but she looked the other way. Too much muddy emotions, there. Why deal with it?

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posted August 11, 2013 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
^ This.

Air Moons can be lovely.

But there's usually something missing on a deep level.

It's like you just can't reach them no matter what you do, and I don't know if it's because they're truly that.. "shallow" or if it's because they build a fortress around their heart.


It's the latter.

I have Mars in Pisces, square that Moon/Venus, and Pluto and Jupiter all aspecting them. 8th house Moon, too.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've rarely seen scorpio moons go crazy in public.
Taurus moons are also very balanced.

My mother has a scorpio moon and she's always very poised but the intensity is there.

Most scorpio moons I know hide their emotions too..
However they tend to be less approachable and come across as guarded while air moons are quite welcoming.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
[BIt's like you just can't reach them no matter what you do[/B]

Like trying to grasp the wind?

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posted August 11, 2013 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
That's another thing I've found with Air Moons is that their expression of their feelings is very, very influenced by social expectations. It's like any emotion that's "inappropriate" or "selfish" can't be expressed openly, especially not in public. But, also, on a one-on-one level, too.


I used to keep a lot to myself, for that reason. It was my stuff to deal with.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost everyone hides their emotions in public, I don't think it has anything to do with where your Moon is, it's how society works.

But the thing is, Air Moons tend to be aloof *all* the time, not just in public.
They're that way even with close people, and that's what's so frustrating about them.

I'm pretty sure the expression "emotional closeness" doesn't mean much to Air Moons, and at worse it actually makes them cringe.

I dunno maybe it's all the Pluto in me but I find them impossible to reach.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've rarely seen scorpio moons go crazy in public.
Taurus moons are also very balanced.

My mother has a scorpio moon and she's always very poised but the intensity is there.

Most scorpio moons I know hide their emotions too..
However they tend to be less approachable and come across as guarded while air moons are quite welcoming.


Yeah, tantrums and steam blowing in public is more Fire Moon territory.

But nobody sulks more efficiently than water.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Almost everyone hides their emotions in public, I don't think it has anything to do with where your Moon is, it's how society works.

But the thing is, Air Moons tend to be aloof *all* the time, not just in public.
They're that way even with close people, and that's what's so frustrating about them.

I'm pretty sure the expression "emotional closeness" doesn't mean much to Air Moons, and at worse it actually makes them cringe.

I dunno maybe it's all the Pluto in me but I find them impossible to reach.


I think the intensity scares them, to be honest. In a way, I get where they're coming from, because I fear powerful emotions too, almost with the same lust I crave them. But I can only do carefree for so long, I have less shallow emotional needs and when they're not met, I gotta go.

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posted August 11, 2013 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah it's probably best to confide in someone with a lot of earth and water.

When someone is sad I usually cheer them up rather than listen to them rabble on while crying..

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posted August 11, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've rarely seen scorpio moons go crazy in public.
Taurus moons are also very balanced.

My mother has a scorpio moon and she's always very poised but the intensity is there.

Most scorpio moons I know hide their emotions too..
However they tend to be less approachable and come across as guarded while air moons are quite welcoming.


True, but I'm also a Leo by Sun sign and I think that gives me a certain openness that goes against the textbook Scorpio Moon description in that regard. I've never related to that whole "hiding feelings" thing. I'm always upfront and honest about how I feel, maybe to an extreme (which is where the Scorpio could come into play). And I like feeling like I can be that raw and honest with people. When I'm feeling more vulnerable, however, I'm a bit more private and proud about it. But, it's still there. I also have my Moon in the 10th (which rules the public), so I think that makes me willing to expose my emotions.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, double post.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
spot on analogies, well done

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Well, here's one way to try and understand the different moons.

Fire moons have very "hot" emotions that can flare up suddenly but burn out quickly.

Earth moons emotions go deep but in a very stable way and are hard to change once set (like footprints made in mud then dried).

Water moons emotions fluctuate like tides but also can go very deep.

Air moons are generally so light that they can blow away before they even register! Because of this, they can seem very cool and detached, like nothing really moves them much. Most of the time it's just soft breezes that barely stroke the skin. Occasionally the winds can blow strong like a hurricane or tornado, but you won't want to be around them when this happens. If you set off an air moon to this point, it's time to head for the storm cellar!


hm i may be a sappy pisces mooner but i do think i just get along better with people who aren't as sensitive as me. it gives me a break and lets me deal with my things on my own.

my mum has libra moon & thoughwe don't always see eye to eye, i do appreciate that she is (95% of the time) totally able to contain her emotions. i think her own emotional indifference and nonchalance has helped me develop a better stiff upper lip. shes usually highly diplomatic but when she has her moments, she absolutely does go completley off (leo mars, cancer rising), really amusing lol i'm not sure how many libra moons i have met or known, just mum. hang on my grandmother was libra mooner too & we were super close, she was a bit different to my mother.

i am a leo/cap asc and i love air and fire moons. my childhood bff had a Leo moon, i have gotten on really well with Gemini moons (i have moon in 3H) and i also LOVE Aqua moons. i love gemini chattiness and wit, i find them quite loveable. aqua moons are fantastic too, i love their insight & quirkiness & free spiritidness. i'm quite uraniun myself, so..i love em

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posted August 11, 2013 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I'm Gemini Moon and my Mercury is exalted and in it's own sign of Virgo. So quite strong.

I think I can clear up a little bit... hopefully. Also, I'm not sure about the other two air signs really. This is just my perception.

I think two major things are at play here.
As an air sign, I realize that if I release emotions I have much less control of them than earth or water signs. If I release them they will just blow all over the freakin place! As someone else said, run for shelter. LOL I get much better with age to find that line of kind releasing and maintaining control of them. In general though, it's difficult to keep them harnessed. Being aware of this, I would rather detach and save my energy than cause mass destruction.

The second thing, that might be more Gemini related. As I said, I'm not totally familiar with how the other two behave as moon signs.
The simple matter of it is, I'm WAY too busy THINKING to be feeling. The common troubleshooting questions of "What? Who? Where? Why? and How?".... those questions are my LIFE. I ask them constantly and for anything. My quest for learning and understanding prevents me from expending energy on emotions which might get out of control in the first place.

So, this is a very real example from my life.

In a girlfriend/spouse situation where emotions can be strong.
I may say something, totally not meaning to be a butthole. I may say it with my logical mind in the sense of... "This is what I think - logically - what I've observed."
It's then taken as mean, and unfeeling. So then the other half becomes very upset perhaps saying, "WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT?" Confused, as I meant it matter of factly I STILL don't feel strongly. I do feel but again I'm too busy THINKING to be feeling. I apply those questions again. In my head, "Okay. What happened here? Why are they upset? Or why are they SO upset?" and I think about it logically and curiously. Desiring to understand this reaction and human nature. (Could be my Mercury 12th house placement) That just amplifies my appearance of being a cold, detached being.

Unfortunately, that also means that if I wish, I can detach and then manipulate others emotions with my knowledge gained from looking at it logically.

It's just the way the energy is used.

But of course individual chart placements can change things as we all know.

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posted August 11, 2013 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic. I was thinking about Moons the other day.

From a Libra Moon prospective, I have to say that I do not get along with Water moons (despite being a Cancer) or Earth Moons very well. I find Water/Earth far too emotional AND not intellectual enough about emotions. I've always believed that if one could stop and THINK about why they feel instead of simply letting their emotions rule their head, then they'd not only find more peace of mind (and heart!) but they'd understand themselves better.

I find Fire moons fun but also exhaustive but not so much in an emotional way... I almost feel physically exhausted after interacting with an Air Moon, as if my Air Moon fed into their Fire Moon, if that makes sense.

I get along best with Aquarius Moon. We understand each other in ways that don't require words, which is a relief for an air moon, really. There's nothing better than someone simply just... UNDERSTANDING you from both an emotional standpoint but an intellectual standpoint as well.

For the sake of discussion and to interject some Air Moon perspective, below is how I "feel" around other moons.

Aries Moon: So much fun. A lot of passion but depending on their Sun Sign, not a lot of forethought about actions. Can't always rely on Aries Moon... So terribly impulsive at times with their emotions. They react too quickly.

Taurus Moon: We get along on the most part, but I never expect a deep connection on any level. Most of the Taurus Moons I've met have been through work, and they've always been the best people for me to work with.

Gemini Moon: My mother is a Gemini Moon. I understand them, but interestingly enough... I find them irritating with their constant need to discuss their emotions, especially since they'll change by the time the conversation changes. Otherwise, we do understand each other and a lot of acquaintances of mine are this moon.

Cancer Moon: Can't get along. Too emotional. Even if my Sun is conj. their Moon, I still can't be around Cancer Moon. Too much. Can't deal lol.

Leo Moon: Emotionally demanding of my attention. Sometimes we get along, but a lot of times I find their emotional reactions to a lot of things to be far too dramatic.

Virgo Moon: A very sweet Moon. Tends to be too... neurotic? LOL But I understand where they're coming from. We both have a "perfectionistic" streak. Never dated a guy with Virgo Moon, but I've had a lot of coworkers with Virgo Moon and they were always emotionally supportive and able to keep up.

Libra Moon: We get along. I actually don't know too many Libra Moons. Every interaction was actually a big boring or superficial.

Scorpio Moon: My best friend is actually Scorpio Sun conj Moon. We get along because she "gets" me and understands that I don't want to discuss my feelings. She's perfectly content with that, although there have been occasions where I'd try to patch things up with her and another friend and she'd do whatever she can to "figure out" what I'm trying to do; she always suspects that someone manipulated me into trying to get to her. Silly Scorpio Moons. :P

Sag Moon: So much fun, but I always get the feeling that I can't rely on you guys lol. You tend to do whatever suits your mood, and who knows what that is from day to day. Emotionally honest, although I don't always need to know.

Capricorn Moon: We get along on the most part. My brother is a Capricorn Moon. He's a jerk to me a lot of the times, always calling me out on anything he sees as an emotional weakness. I'm almost positive my brother is the only Capricorn Moon that has played a major role in my life.

Aquarius Moon: I LOVE AQUARIUS MOON. We just... understand each other. I don't care what people say. I don't think they're cold or sociopaths or shallow. I find them so intriguing and so full of knowledge, like a deep cave full of mysterious treasures. I'll end it with that because I could go on and on about Aqua Moon.

Pisces Moon: You kids need to make up your damn minds about your feelings, lol. Also, I noticed, Pisces Moon has weird dreams. I like talking about them, analyzing them, and applying that analysis to your emotional life. We're buddies.

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I dislike dealing with Aquarius moons. I am an Aquarius sun, but if I had to remove a moon it would be the Aquarius one. I feel like they have no feelings, and some even border to mental problems. I hate them!

lol, we Aqua moons can be a tough nut to crack. And we do have plenty of feelings, too. Just not necessarily on the same wavelength as what you might expect.

Traditionally, we're ruled by Saturn, in modern astrology by Uranus. Gemini and Libra have personal planets ruling them, so there's a chance you'll get closer to them. Not so much with an Aqua moon. There really isn't any need to get so worked up about it if you keep in mind that Aqua is co-ruled by a collective planet and a transpersonal one, too.

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It's just easier to sit on my cloud and float than being weighed down. There are very few people I can just be completely raw with and even then we haven't reached the bottom yet. I can see how some people can view air moons as being cold or detached but its nothing personal that's just our way of functioning, easy breezy. We don't lack emotions we just have the ability to rationalize not displaying outlandish emotions for the sake of keeping things professional or to not cause a emotional response from someone else or its just not appropriate. On a rare occasions you can get a emotional response but its short lived.

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posted August 11, 2013 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

I'm pretty sure the expression "emotional closeness" doesn't mean much to Air Moons, and at worse it actually makes them cringe.

I dunno maybe it's all the Pluto in me but I find them impossible to reach.


It means a lot, actually.

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