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Topic: Chiron in Synastry- Ami Anne?
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ariestaurus Knowflake Posts: 426 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted August 11, 2013 09:07 PM
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/journal/when-chiron-touches-a-planetasteroid-in-synastry/ I just got out of a Chironian relationship. My Chiron is conjunct his Sun (exact), his Moon, and opposite his Uranus, Jupiter, and Moon. His Chiron is conjunct my North Node, trine my Venus, opposite my Saturn. The conjunction between my Chiron and his Sun really caught my eye, as the orb is extremely close (within 15 minutes or so). Anyway, we only dated for 3 weeks until it broke apart. I did something that upset him, after which he stopped talking to me. I thought what I did was pretty minor, and I felt he completely overreacted! He said he was unable to move on from it, and we just drifted apart! In the article above, it states that this is very common in Chiron relationships. Is it usually the planet person who is 'hurt' by the Chiron person? I'm having trouble understanding what happened. Is he just extremely sensitive to what I say/do? I just felt what I did was very minor, so I feel he overreacted a bit! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 11, 2013 09:19 PM
Anyway, we only dated for 3 weeks until it broke apart. I did something that upset him, after which he stopped talking to me. I thought what I did was pretty minor, and I felt he completely overreacted! He said he was unable to move on from it, and we just drifted apart!Hi Friend! Yes, this is so classic to what I have found and seen in charts. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 11, 2013 09:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by ariestaurus: http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/journal/when-chiron-touches-a-planetasteroid-in-s ynastry/ I just got out of a Chironian relationship. My Chiron is conjunct his Sun (exact), his Moon, and opposite his Uranus, Jupiter, and Moon. His Chiron is conjunct my North Node, trine my Venus, opposite my Saturn. The conjunction between my Chiron and his Sun really caught my eye, as the orb is extremely close (within 15 minutes or so). Anyway, we only dated for 3 weeks until it broke apart. I did something that upset him, after which he stopped talking to me. I thought what I did was pretty minor, and I felt he completely overreacted! He said he was unable to move on from it, and we just drifted apart! In the article above, it states that this is very common in Chiron relationships. Is it usually the planet person who is 'hurt' by the Chiron person? I'm having trouble understanding what happened. Is he just extremely sensitive to what I say/do? I just felt what I did was very minor, so I feel he overreacted a bit!
Well, as to who is hurt, I am not sure, maybe both. I am thinking about one Chiron relationship I had. My nessus conj her Chiron. We had a small difference and she went crazy. It was so out of proportion that it was nuts. Another one was My Venus conj her Chiron. That blew up over something very small too. I think that the planet person brings pain to the Chiron person. However, when it blows up, it just seems to go Poof and never seems to get back and both people are upset.
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 406 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 12, 2013 10:26 AM
sry... double post.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 12, 2013 10:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: I share many Chiron aspect with someone, in most of them I am Chiron (including my Chiron conjunct his Venus,but his Chiron conjuncts exactly my NN). Most of the things he says hurt me, even without obvious reason. I notice that he is very sensitive to what I say as well. It has got better over time, because we start to trust each other little by little. The key is to try to keep your ego down and to forgive. This relationship has taught me so much. In spite of this mutual hurting it still continues, but we have Saturn aspects to Sun/Moon.
If his Chiron conjuncts your NN, I would carefully consider about marriage. I have seen this and the marriage was pure pain. That is one mans opinion, Friend
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 406 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 12, 2013 10:32 AM
I share many Chiron aspects with someone (including my Chiron conjunct his Venus and his Chiron conjunct my NN). For some reason, whatever he says hurts me. He seems also very sensitive to what I say, even though he hides it well. It has got better over time, little by little, because we start to trust each other. In spite of this mutual hurting it still continues. I attribute this to Saturn aspects to Sun/Moon in synastry... and maybe to Chiron/Saturn as well. The key is to keep ego low and to forgive... damn hard. But he has taught me so much. Btw... Chiron/Uranus seems to bring separation. At least in the charts I have analyzed.IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 406 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 12, 2013 10:39 AM
Thanks for your advice, Amy, but he is already married :-). But ours is a double whammy, my Chiron conjuncts his SN as well. We have tons of double whammies in synastry, even with Chiron. Maybe it balances the power.IP: Logged |
orocairion Knowflake Posts: 269 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted August 12, 2013 12:15 PM
What about Chiron conjunct Chiron?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 12, 2013 03:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by orocairion: What about Chiron conjunct Chiron?
If you are born within 2 years( I think is the time) it would be the same for everyone so would not have much meaning.
If not, it would, though.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 12, 2013 04:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Thanks for your advice, Amy, but he is already married :-). But ours is a double whammy, my Chiron conjuncts his SN as well. We have tons of double whammies in synastry, even with Chiron. Maybe it balances the power.
No, to me, Chiron stands alone and WILL play out. That is one man's experience. Chiron can't be made to be different when it is conjunct the NN, for example. Chiron is pain and the NN is the goal of the relationship. That relationship will have a theme of pain. To me, the charts cannot be denied. One can wish they could be but they can't PS People will disagree but this is my opinion. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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jjj Knowflake Posts: 406 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 12, 2013 04:56 PM
Amy,I have Chiron conjunct NN with my best guy friend and I had the same aspect with my ex husband of 17 years. There was/is no pain in these rel.ships. As for my marriage, we slowly grew apart, but it was not a painful experience. We married too young and divorced of mutual consent. Just to add a different perspective... Im sorry that you experienced pain with that aspect. Im not afraid of Chiron, I always have it in my relationships because I need deep, transforming experiences. I see Chiron conjunct NN rather as healing... the NN person heals the Chiron persons wound (it may be the theme of the relationship). It can be a lifelong process with NN.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 04:59 PM
My husband and I have these charts (synastry & composite, 30% orb): Many might disagree that Chiron may manifest so, but this has been a very happy marriage (albeit only 4 years in) and has been profoundly healing for both of us. We both can trigger the little pockets of pain that the other has stored away, but (so far) it has always moved forward a greater feeling of acceptance, understanding, and peace. We've almost systematically built one another up. On an ego level, it makes me fear that that's the purpose of this relationship, and that once it's done so shall we be. I hope not. We love one another dearly. I can only speak with any authority from my own point of view, but I've never felt so gently and thoroughly loved, and I've never felt this depth and breadth of seemingly boundless love for a peer.
Do you know the TVOTR song Province? We consider it to be one of our songs. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 12, 2013 05:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by jjj: Amy,I have Chiron conjunct NN with my best guy friend and I had the same aspect with my ex husband of 17 years. There was/is no pain in these rel.ships. As for my marriage, we slowly grew apart, but it was not a painful experience. We married too young and divorced of mutual consent. Just to add a different perspective... Im sorry that you experienced pain with that aspect. Im not afraid of Chiron, I always have it in my relationships because I need deep, transforming experiencess.
Well, it would seem like there had to be pain if you broke up. No marriage breaks up without pain, so I would not change my opinion based on that but I do very much appreciate your input, Friend. I do agree that Chiron can be very transforming, though. I think it will transform you but I, personally, would never make a serious commitment with a Chiron conj the NN in synastry but that is one man's opinion ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 12, 2013 05:04 PM
Here's the video if you're interested: http://youtu.be/xigAXL5e5Kw We didn't chose it with this in mind, but the more I've thought about it the more it strikes me as a Chironic song. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 12, 2013 05:56 PM
I have quite a few articles on Chiron, if anyone is interested. Of course, they are one man's experience and opinion.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 430 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 13, 2013 03:14 AM
In my experience, Chiron is essential for intimacy in relationships. It can be profoundly painful, especially if the pain is projected instead of acknowledged, owned and worked through. What I notice tends to happen is a cycle: a trigger, you hurt, your ego goes into survival mode of blame and projection, you RUN, and run and run. You don't ask questions because you don't want to know. You run some more, until you run into yourself. You face yourself, you search yourself, you step outside of yourself for a minute, and the pain annihilates your ego, and the cruel walls you built to protect yourself from yourself and those closest to you, collapse. You begin to see and accept your role in the journey (through action or reaction). Not from the ego based view of "He/She hurt me" but from the compassionate side that acknowledges their fear; of loss, of failure, of intimacy etc. In the rare moments of surrender, if you summon the courage to go back for closure, answers, to offer encouragement, etc. If you simply stand there before them, without blame, judgement or fear, if you open up and share yourself and your experience, what usually happens is an overflow of mutual understanding and acceptance. The kind that only comes from "I was there, I hurt so so bad, I hurt with you, I was just to scared to open up and hurt you even more. In those moments, there wasn't anything I could do." I'm not saying it will always play out this way, no. Chiron aspects in synastry are fine tuned for high degrees of sensitivity. But this is where the potential for healing comes from with Chiron relationships. Chiron is the pathway to higher awareness. IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 406 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 13, 2013 04:50 AM
Wow Lava, thanks for that. Very beautifully put and so true! If English were my mother toungue, I would have written something like that. The running in cycles is exactly like you describe. The cycles are long at the beginning, but get shorter with time, as parties evolve.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 13, 2013 07:32 AM
I might seem like I am saying opposite things and I don't mean to, but the charts do have many layers. I think Chiron in synastry is one of the planets of transformation. The pain forces you to grow. My mother, whom I talk about a lot on here, has her Sun combust mercury in exact conjunction to my Chiron. I would have wished I never had her BUT I found God through my relationship with her. That was because it was too painful to not have God when I had to deal with all the things she threw in my path. Was the Chiron good or bad? Neither, I suppose. It transformed me. HOWEVER, and this is my point. I would never, ever, ever marry or advise someone to marry someone with a Chiron conj the NN or some other strong Chiron aspect. The reason is that you are CHOOSING pain. You can't help the pain that comes to you from a parent. The above is my personal opinion on Chiron in synastry for a marriage relationship. OTOH, I have had many, many Chiron relationships with friends. I am happy for these, although all but one ended with a weird fight and then the person disappeared lol My point is really about marriage because I see marriage as something that is binding. Also, if you have children, you are always bound to that person. Anyway, that is where I am coming from with Chiron. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 13, 2013 01:09 PM
This is interesting - I was looking up Juno in synastry & this article gibes a link to Magi astrology's take on Chiron: http://astrologyexpressed.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/juno-in-synastry/ ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
panzi Newflake Posts: 22 From: none Registered: Aug 2015
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posted July 16, 2016 04:06 AM
My experience with my ex-bf Chiron conjunct my NN close at 0,54a(don't know what a stands for).During our relationship i started to have severe migraines,one every 2 days.He was a good guy but we differed a lot on the ways we see things.I was quite frustrated during the relationship and depressive too but the depression was prior him.He didn't cure it.He tried to give me advices on what i should do in order to get better when all i wanted was to be alone at my home.He was clingy too but as i said he was a good guy,never cheated on me.I distanced myself from him and let him break up with me.After a week he came to me and said that he cannot see him life without me being a part of it even as a friend.He begged me to not cut him off.We have remained friends and he is very dear to me after so many years i've known him. He never inflicted pain in me on purpose.It was just frustration.I don't like to remember our days as a couple but i do like to remember our days as close friends. In my case there was nothing dramatic really,i just thought it's interesting cause my migraines started with that relationship.We also had his Chiron opposing my Moon and square my Ascendant,both under 5 degrees and my Chiron conjunct his Moon.The rest of the aspects are more than 5 degrees or trines,sextiles. In my soul he remains a good,faithful and trustworthy guy,the only one i have warm feelings for.I'm sure i have frustrated him cause he always wanted us to get back as lovers and i'm sure i've made him jealous too during the close friendship times.He's married now but i have been the love of his life. IP: Logged |
jadave Knowflake Posts: 48 From: usa Registered: Oct 2015
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posted July 16, 2016 05:05 AM
What about mans Eros and moon conjunct woman's Chiron?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 16, 2016 09:53 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 16, 2016 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by jadave: What about mans Eros and moon conjunct woman's Chiron?
If it is a close conjunction, I doubt this relationship would last.I think it would get close really fast and then break apart quite fast, as well. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 67620 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 16, 2016 09:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by panzi: My experience with my ex-bf Chiron conjunct my NN close at 0,54a(don't know what a stands for).During our relationship i started to have severe migraines,one every 2 days.He was a good guy but we differed a lot on the ways we see things.I was quite frustrated during the relationship and depressive too but the depression was prior him.He didn't cure it.He tried to give me advices on what i should do in order to get better when all i wanted was to be alone at my home.He was clingy too but as i said he was a good guy,never cheated on me.I distanced myself from him and let him break up with me.After a week he came to me and said that he cannot see him life without me being a part of it even as a friend.He begged me to not cut him off.We have remained friends and he is very dear to me after so many years i've known him. He never inflicted pain in me on purpose.It was just frustration.I don't like to remember our days as a couple but i do like to remember our days as close friends. In my case there was nothing dramatic really,i just thought it's interesting cause my migraines started with that relationship.We also had his Chiron opposing my Moon and square my Ascendant,both under 5 degrees and my Chiron conjunct his Moon.The rest of the aspects are more than 5 degrees or trines,sextiles. In my soul he remains a good,faithful and trustworthy guy,the only one i have warm feelings for.I'm sure i have frustrated him cause he always wanted us to get back as lovers and i'm sure i've made him jealous too during the close friendship times.He's married now but i have been the love of his life.
A strong Chiron relationship would play out differently in marriage than boyfriend/girlfriend imo
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