posted August 12, 2013 11:39 AM            

I have major 6th House influence and I’ve noticed I’m very non-spiritual. I don’t believe in a higher power, supreme being, guardian angels, karma, fate, fortune-telling or anything meta-physical. I am very “scientific” so to speak and have a hard time believing something that isn’t fact or something that isn’t proven or tangible.

The fact that I like astrology surprises me since it too is considered occult. However I have seen the effects of astrology and I think that’s why I’m inclined to believe it. I take a very growth-oriented psychological approach to astrology.

The problem is that sometimes my lack of faith is borderline nihilism. I don’t really see a deeper meaning behind life because meaning is a human concept that I really don’t think extends beyond us. I don’t even believe in the concept of the soul, to me that just a projection of our brain.

Regardless if this is true or not this is very debilitating on an emotional level. Humans need some kind of crutch to support them or else they get thrown in chaos. Nothing is more terrifying for a person than to have meaning taken away from them. This is true for me as well. I often feel disconnected from the world and I suspect all my bad emotions and anxiety are somewhat caused by not being able to channel my energy correctly.

I figured this has something to do with the 6H since it is opposite the 12H which deals with these matters. It could also be the Mercury/Uranus square (I refuse to believe anything that is preached to me or that has some kind of restrictions) and/or the Mercury/Neptune square.

I’m afraid I’ll alienate myself with this thread since I’ve noticed this community is big on spirituality. But this is also why I’m turning to you. How do I make myself have some kind of faith and if not faith then optimism about life? I’m tired of feeling so ostracized and disconnected from everyone and everything.

posted August 12, 2013 12:04 PM            

I have a lot of friends who are atheists, and a few who are Buddhists. Personally, I don't follow any particular belief system, but I do have belief (I'm Neptunian, after all).

Maybe you could post a picture of your chart?
Obviously, most members have greater knowledge about the intricacies of astrology than I do, but I've found that there's usually something for everyone...even atheists. But I also agree that it's important for us to have *something* to believe in.

posted August 12, 2013 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
What do you have in your 8th house, and is it aspected?

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posted August 12, 2013 01:12 PM            

I' was not much of a believer myself. I never really took the time for any of it. I always respected others beliefs but, I stayed away from all of it. Although I have always believed in karma, destiny, and fate.

I'm 41 and I believe I am having my spritiual awakening.
It's been confusing, and amazing at the same time.
But I still have logic telling me one thing, and destiny drawing me to something else. My mind debates this logic..

Maybe at some point in your life,you will have a spritiual awakening. Maybe you won't..
Either way it's ok.

posted August 12, 2013 01:21 PM            

Maybe, with Neptune in Capricorn and your Scorpio sun in the 6th house, you might try some really basic "earthy" type activities like yoga or tai chi, and that could open up some doors for you?

With your Gemini AC and empty 8th house (my understanding of an intercepted house or sign is still completely vague), I would imagine that it would be difficult to find faith in something.

Many atheists I know simply choose to put their faith in science, but it sounds as if maybe that's not working for you?

I would try some basic meditation exercises or yoga (my ex was a Taurus with Gemini moon, I don't remember his other placements, but he had a terrible time with spiritual concepts; eventually, meditation and a bit of Buddhism kind of worked for him).

posted August 12, 2013 01:39 PM            

My mother is actually very Neptunian so I am not sure if the lack of faith is due to 6th house....

None of us is nihilist tho

posted August 12, 2013 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:

Maybe at some point in your life,you will have a spritiual awakening. Maybe you won't..
Either way it's ok.

What ever it is you believe, you should be comfortable with. Others should respect your beliefs, even if they don't agree.
Be your self, maybe one day you will find a higher meaning, maybe you won't..
It's ok either way..

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What Lioness said.

<Edit>
Because it sounds like you're struggling with the *need* to find something to have faith in (if I'm understanding you correctly, which I might not be), I would still suggest "earthy", "practical" activities to help you. Yoga, Tai Chi, meditation (there are classes or groups for all of the above in most places), or even something as simple as gardening, connecting to the earth...?

There is scientific evidence that suggests that people who spend a lot of time outside, gardening or doing whatever, feel better in general (if that helps your Gemini AC, it's scientifically supported, ha).

posted August 12, 2013 02:19 PM            

Spirtuality and faith are important to me and I know deep down nothing will ever take that away from me, even if there are times when I get depressed or extremely cynical.

It could be that my Venus (co-ruler of my 12th and significator of one's values) conjuncts Jupiter (ruler of my 8th and traditional significator of faith / religion). So I have a love of (Venus) faith (Jupiter).

Could also be that my South Node is in the 12th house (a few minutes away from my ASC) - so it feels natural to see the world as a spirtual place and not just physical.

posted August 12, 2013 02:29 PM            

I could see how this transit could be creating the feelings you're describing.

Keep searching, if that's what you want to do. It may seem nihilistic right now, but you might just find the place where you're comfortable, spiritually speaking.