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CapricornDog
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posted August 13, 2013 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapricornDog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I notice in Astrology Forums-especially on the internet-people quickly point out to the person's chart for every action the person commits.

To use a fictional example The Lord of the Rings fandom often agrees Boromir is a Scorpio. Astrology enthusiasts within the LOTR fandom has stated the reason for Boromir's arrogance and tendency to look down on others and want to be the leader is because of his Scorpio traits.

No denying traditional Astrology descriptions does state Scorpio as being very arrogant and vain but I would attribute Boromir's personality and his high "Superior to thou" attitude more to his background than being a Scorpio or Astrology at all. From childhood Denethor has intended Boromir to become the best of Gondor and to become the next steward. He gave everything he could to develop Boromir as a leader and outstanding in about everything ideal for a Gondorian Warrior.

His father was so convinced Boromir was next to lead in line Boromir was practically praised all his life. And while he actually does have the right to be proud of his status because he really did become an outstanding warrior worthy of representing Gondor. He slew 20 ORCS before Pippin and Merry were kidnapped and rather than choosing to desert the Fellowship after he betrayed Frodo he chose to stay and fight and defend Pippin and Merry. He died a from injuries that would kill a stronger man in an instant as he survived I'd guess around 10 minutes or more. MANY ARROWS into his flesh killed him but before his death he still had the willpower to request Aragorn a promise that he will save Gondor!

But what I mean to say is that Boromir has been treated like he's someone extraordinary destined for great things and this got into his ego. He already proven himself in battle before but he was often fighting as among the elite ranks and a champion. Nowhere in LOTR does it state he ever had to bear days of being stuck inside trenches alongside the common soldier. He was already given position of leaderships when he started going to war rather than rising through the ranks.

So all his arrogant and vain personality I would say is far more due to his background than Scorpio placements (or any other placements assuming he has Leo and Scorpio in his chart). Had Boromir risen through the ranks and experienced the same difficulties the common soldier did-or had he even put sent into a desperate battle forcing him to rely on those lower in rank and inferior to him such as being trapped inside trenches or being saved by commoners who risked death, Boromir would have developed into the wise battle-hardened soldier who realizes that he can easily die and he will need the help of others. Had he gone through such experiences he wouldn't have been the vain arrogant warrior he was who longed for glory to lead the Fellowship and save Middle Earth.

Sure Scorpios are associated as arrogant and vain but wouldn't someone raised from nobility who was naturally of outstanding talent and always excelled get into his head sheer arrogance that he doesn't need others help? I mean Boromir makes me think of the clichéd incompetent snobbish aristocratic officer of the British army seen throughout English military history (except he's actually proven as a warrior) who thinks high of himself because of his position and the fact he never experienced the same hardships grunts did firsthand. I'm pretty sure these officers from British military history came from all signs and various natal charts including Pisces and Aquarius....

Looking at Natal Chart of Boromir by Astrology Enthusiasts really makes me feel the Astrology community point out to much to the chart literally for every action or personality trait. Like the forum I got banned from with people pointing at my Leo Moon and Mercury Aries, I notice the Astrology Community can often be fanatical about using the chart to judge a person.

Thats fine with me as the Natal Chart is often scarily accurate but for Christ's sake please look at CONTEXT under which the action was taken as well as the person's background and the situation where he did the action! I mean there are so many circumstances in which a person will act totally like a different sign (or different placement for the planet related to the specific circumstances like communication)!

I suspect many an Aquaris and Pisces who were raised under Boromir's background would become just as vain and narcissistic as he was. In fact Faramir is a Cancer himself according to stuff I found but his personality is more Pisces. While I have no doubt he probably has a strong Piscean influence, I really believe his background had a lot more to do with him being so humble and sweet than any Pisces influence can. He was never praised as a prodigy destined for great things and his father was rather aloof to him as opposed to Boromir.

So I view pointing out the way a person acts to his chart right away in the same thing. Bollocks if one doesn't count the circumstances in which such actions occur.

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anonymidarkness
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posted August 13, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All roads lead to Scorpio.

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Fleurdelis
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posted August 13, 2013 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fleurdelis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have liked to comment but I don't read/like lord if the rings. Boring film/book lol.

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Jkitty
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posted August 13, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I view astrology as being much like genetics. You can be born with genes that would allow you to live healthy to 100, but if you smoke for 60 years and have a cr@ppy diet, you probably won't make it to 80, even with first-class medical care. If you live in a famine-ridden part of Africa, you may not make it to the age of 3. If you choose the life of a special ops warrior, you'd better be lucky as well as very skilled or you still won't fulfill your potential genetic life span.

Yes, I agree with you whole heartedly. The actual life is often quite different from the potential shown in a natal chart. The people I like best have some hard aspects that they've learned/chosen to use positively.

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lulz
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posted August 13, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lulz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^bazi can tell you what gifts u were born with and how the journey will be.

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Lunae
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posted August 13, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^How?

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somethingexcellent
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posted August 13, 2013 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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anonymidarkness: All roads lead to Scorpio.

Sounds almost poetic. Also, no matter which direction you go, there's always "Your chart is not the final say" (or "I'm not a Pisces" if u read between the lines).

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lulz
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posted August 13, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lulz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lunae:
^How?


the pillars form combos with other signs in ur chart. u call them stars.

based on daymaster, month, and gender u can generate luck periods which span a decade.
http://fengshuimastersingapore.blogspot.com/2012/06/your-10-years-luck-period.html

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 13, 2013 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is just possibilities but the expression varies from person to person. So YES rl is the most important indicator. What is someone really like?

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