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Ishtar
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posted August 13, 2013 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm deeply in love but the synastry and composite are pretty negative.

In synastry, his Venus doesn't aspect any of my planets nor does his moon (a 7 degree trine to my Saturn), and there are barely any Saturn contacts and the ones that are existing are wide orbs and soft aspects.

In the composite, again no Saturn, barely any Venus contacts, barely any moon contacts, hardly any Pluto.

My Venus conjuncts his south node exactly, my Ascendant widely conjuncts his sun, are suns are exactly trine.

Weirdly though, his Draconic ascendant exactly conjuncts my vertex. I'm quite saddened by this.

What do you think?

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Lilithsquared
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posted August 13, 2013 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any asteroid - North Node conjunctions?


Astrology aside, just because a relationship won't last long doesn't mean you won't learn something from the experience.

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Ishtar
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posted August 13, 2013 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Draconic sun exactly conjuncts his natal north node. But does that count for anything?

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vickymadness
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posted August 14, 2013 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about houses overlays ? They play a BIG role

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Jkitty
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posted August 14, 2013 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry can show potential, but what really matters is what both people do with it. If you want to give it a try, why let the synastry discourage you? Are you afraid that it may be a one-sided relationship? (Check the archives if you think it is). If you both want to pursue it, then do. If it works out, great. If not, then learn something from it and move on.

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Lotis White
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posted August 14, 2013 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please post your charts. A picture is worth a thousand words.

Also, have you looked into midpoints yet? or your Duad charts? or progressions?

These may also explain some of what you're feeling.

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Odette
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posted August 14, 2013 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
I'm deeply in love but the synastry and composite are pretty negative.

quote:
Should I bother?

Yes. Of course you should bother!!!!!

If you're in love, then you're in love and you can make things work if he feels the same way.

There are other couples with un-aspected planets. Nicole Kidman's husband - Keith Urban - has his Mars in early Capricorn and it does not aspect anything in her chart.

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Odette
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posted August 14, 2013 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh - and actually.. I always seem to forget this but in my synastry - with someone I was very much in love with.. my Venus made no aspects to his planets other than a wide - 7 orb opposition to his Mars.
But his NN was conj my Venus and my own NN.

Also, do you have his correct time of birth - and ascendant?
If you don't - then you can't know the exact degree of his Moon.. so your planets might be in aspect to his Moon.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 14, 2013 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing I do have to wonder...if someone is in love, sees bad synastry and composite charts, will just seeing this and having it influence their mood be enough to bring about what is shown in the charts?

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curiouswoman
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posted August 14, 2013 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
stars don't control destiny

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Ishtar
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posted August 14, 2013 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for your replies. I really appreciate them.

This is our synastry. I am on the outside.

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This is our composite:

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This is him:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Cancer 24°14'57 in house 11 direct
Moon Aquarius 13°35'44 in house 6 direct
Mercury Leo 16°59'24 in house 12 direct
Venus Leo 3°17'56 in house 11 direct
Mars Taurus 22°56'32 in house 9 direct
Jupiter Virgo 12°17'12 in house 1 direct
Saturn Aquarius 16°42'23 in house 6 retrograde
Uranus Capricorn 15°41'07 in house 5 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 17°23'00 in house 5 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 20°12'19 in house 3 retrograde
True Node Capricorn 0°35'09 in house 4 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 5°21'26
2nd House Virgo 28°11'03
3rd House Libra 26°27'53
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 0°03'02
5th House Capricorn 5°32'17
6th House Aquarius 7°49'29
Descendant Pisces 5°21'26
8th House Pisces 28°11'03
9th House Aries 26°27'53
Medium Coeli Gemini 0°03'02
11th House Cancer 5°32'17
12th House Leo 7°49'29

This is me:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Taurus 25°46'10 in house 11 direct
Moon Gemini 22°43'17 in house 12 direct
Mercury Taurus 29°33'37 in house 11 direct
Venus Cancer 1°17'37 in house 12 direct
Mars Virgo 3°55'55 in house 3 direct
Jupiter Virgo 0°51'06 in house 3 direct
Saturn Virgo 20°13'27 in house 3 stationary (D)
Uranus Scorpio 23°27'48 in house 5 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 21°59'18 in house 6 retrograde
Pluto Libra 19°27'33 in house 4 retrograde
True Node Leo 24°26'23 in house 2 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 18°02'20
2nd House Leo 6°07'09
3rd House Leo 27°11'46
Imum Coeli Virgo 24°39'27
5th House Scorpio 1°22'17
6th House Sagittarius 12°56'16
Descendant Capricorn 18°02'20
8th House Aquarius 6°07'09
9th House Aquarius 27°11'46
Medium Coeli Pisces 24°39'27
11th House Taurus 1°22'17
12th House Gemini 12°56'16

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Lotis White
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posted August 14, 2013 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ishtar,

Could you post the degrees of your planets and house cusps as well?

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chargeomentum
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posted August 14, 2013 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chargeomentum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>deeply in love
>synastry negative

you're not deep in love with that person if you choose to follow some star position rather than your own emotions

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Ishtar
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posted August 14, 2013 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have a right to your opinion. I understand where it's coming from. But you don't know the situation. I would like to hear comments about the synastry and composite if anybody can offer any. Thank you.

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Lilithsquared
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posted August 14, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lilithsquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know much about Draconic charts, sorry

Looking at these charts though, it appears your Venus conjuncts his South Node.

There's some info about it here, scroll down for it
http://starscopestoday.wordpress.com/tag/venus-conjunct-south-node-synastry/

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 14, 2013 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go for it and then tell us if it worked.

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Ishtar
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posted August 15, 2013 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the encouragement and LilithSquared, that was a wonderful article, thank you.

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Ishtar
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posted September 02, 2013 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It didn't work out. It was extremely Plutonian. I was madly in love. I'm heartbroken and still obsessing. Damn all that Pluto. And yeah, I guess my Saturn did hit a couple of planets so it's hard to let go.

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Doux Rêve
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posted September 02, 2013 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ishtar, what happened?

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SilverFeather
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posted September 02, 2013 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to hear that Ishtar Sometimes things are not meant to be so stay strong

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Ishtar
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posted September 02, 2013 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ishtar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When we first met, he felt an instant attraction to me (he told me later) but I didn't feel anything. We hung out quite a bit, so much so that others noticed, but I didn't pay much attention to it. Fast forward a couple of weeks, and he texted me to hang out and we went out together and had a great time. I did an astrology reading on him and apparently it was so accurate it freaked him out. The whole time, his intense eyes were on me, just piercing right through me. I should probably say he is absolutely gorgeous. I have to admit, his chart really intrigued me and left me more than a little interested considering it was apparently so dead on. We started hanging out more. I found myself becoming more and more attracted, falling more under his spell, couldn't stop thinking about him. Then Pluto hit. I confessed my attraction and he confessed his and we began to become really emotionally involved and we both, awkwardly, admitted mutual obsession with each other. We had so much in common, psychologically, spiritually, emotionally. We had eerily similar past experiences. We had common interests and were just fascinated and admired each other and communicated beautiful and confessed really deep and dark things to one another. Then the lunacy began. He said he really liked me and wanted to take things slow (being a Cancer) but he found me beautiful and intelligent and I wasn't like anybody he met. I wanted things NOW. I couldn't stop obsessing and my feelings were so intense and consumed me and I was torturing myself endlessly. He saw what was happening and was trying to get a handle on what was happening and he was gentle and trying to be understanding but I was pushing too hard and too fast (I have a Pluto singleton in the 4th house that trines my Moon and squares my Asc). I couldn't handle the intensity of my feelings for him and I told him I loved him. He took it well and we continued to meet and he was affectionate and reiterated he wanted to slow things down. When we got together, we were happy, and we were deeply psychological and emotional and went places mentally and bonded so deeply, it's hard to put words to it. Then I began to push and pull (Uranus?) and he couldn't understand why I was pushing him away. But he was acting more and more distant too, not texting as much, not wanting to talk on the phone. I was coming on so strong that it should have scared the pants off of him but it didn't. But he was also acting one way when we were together but being distant when we were not and I got sick of it. I flipped and said I was going to find someone else and I was dumping him. The next time we met, he said he wasn't in love with me and he strung me along because he was afraid of losing my friendship. And he was acting incredibly unattractive to stop my feelings for him. My guess is that he was influenced by something somebody told him. Anyway, he said he wanted to remain friends. Since then, he hasn't texted, was cool on the phone, and hasn't planned any dates to get together. There's a lot I'm leaving out of this post but the gist is there. There seemed to be a lot of manipulation, mind games. I'm still in love. I'm completely obsessed but reining myself in. I feel this compulsion to have him in my life and he doesn't seem to want to let me go. I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. Argh!

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slowpoke
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posted September 03, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

There may be an easier way to read and understand complicated Synastry pie chart aspects. Pie chart aspects can also be produced onto a basic Synastry Aspect Chart, a color coded chart. Review the sample chart at your leisure. It may help you gain even more insight than you currently have.
http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting

http://risingpeople.wix.com/synastry-aspecting#!in-the-closet-astro-tools/c1s43


Once you have it loaded, your aspects will be in the following formation. You can then apply some questions.

Here is an example:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/008126.html

Slowpoke

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Doux Rêve
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posted September 03, 2013 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((( Ishtar )))

Sorry about what happened to you.

I don't know what's going on with him but try to focus on yourself for now and take care of yourself.

If you guys are meant to be, you'll get back together.

If not, someone else is waiting for you out there.

I wish you the best of luck! ~

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