posted August 15, 2013 01:50 PM            

I don't get the sense that pushing him will help. I know I need to be patient, but for how long? I just want to understand this aspect better.

posted August 15, 2013 01:53 PM            

Give him LOTS of security - emotional especially.

He has to feel like you're reliable / trustworthy.

And that's not even a guarantee he'll ever open up..
But it'll help.

posted August 15, 2013 04:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
He won't open up until he feels *safe* with you.

Give him LOTS of security - emotional especially.

He has to feel like you're reliable / trustworthy.

And that's not even a guarantee he'll ever open up..
But it'll help.

Good luck!

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I agree with everything Doux said. I just wanted to add that what HE needs to feel emotionally safe and secure will also depend on the sign and house of his Moon. My idea, your idea, and his idea of what we need for emotional security are very likely all different!

If you want an idea of where/how his emotional guardedness will impact you, consider the houses in which his Moon and Saturn fall in your natal, especially if one of those fall on an angle for you.

posted August 15, 2013 07:21 PM            

I suppose now you really freaked out

But hey! If he shows you he cares and is affectionate (at least when you're alone) that's already success He's starting to feel safe. Don't nag him and enjoy the ride.

posted August 15, 2013 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I agree with everything Doux said. I just wanted to add that what HE needs to feel emotionally safe and secure will also depend on the sign and house of his Moon. My idea, your idea, and his idea of what we need for emotional security are very likely all different!

If you want an idea of where/how his emotional guardedness will impact you, consider the houses in which his Moon and Saturn fall in your natal, especially if one of those fall on an angle for you.

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Still haven't asked birth time yet, so not sure about his houses.

For me, his saturn is in my 5th (UGH) and moon in my 8th.

Definitely big challenges here I suppose.

posted August 15, 2013 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
An ex of mine had this aspect. Great guy, but this aspect caused him to criticize and find flaws with the woman in his life, whether it was his mother or me.

Unless you have Saturn square or opposing or conjunct personal planets in your natal chart, in such case you are used to this kind of Saturnian energy, I wouldn't advise you to continue dating a man who has this aspect. Honestly, it will wear you down.

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posted August 15, 2013 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I have this aspect. If by opening up you mean talking about painful experiences that can be a problem even if he moved on. He might have simply decided to not waste his time and energy to reminisce about it or/and he thinks it's pointless to let you into the crap from his past. Generally, we can keep in a lot even if we theoretically trust someone. We hate feeling vulnerable.

I suppose now you really freaked out

But hey! If he shows you he cares and is affectionate (at least when you're alone) that's already success He's starting to feel safe. Don't nag him and enjoy the ride.

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posted August 15, 2013 07:50 PM            

When they're in public together he's so cold towards her, he got angry at her because she was apparently was talking to him like a child ... She probably was but he needs to calm down.
I think he feels sensitive about being a mama's boy. lol

Weird relationship....

posted August 15, 2013 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Be patient then if you really care about him. Is it the only affliction? What's his Moon sign?

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Capricorn. Still trying to figure out how I feel.

posted August 15, 2013 07:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
My younger cousin has moon square saturn, his mom and him are like obsessed with each other.

When they're in public together he's so cold towards her, he got angry at her because she was apparently was talking to him like a child ... She probably was but he needs to calm down.
I think he feels sensitive about being a mama's boy. lol

Weird relationship....

I would expect him to have a strange relationship with his mother.

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posted August 15, 2013 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Twitterbird05:
Capricorn.

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Ouch...
Btw, if he finds out you don't take him seriously and he's the opposite, I'm afraid he'd most likely turn into ice and end it for good.

Moon square Pluto? This is getting more and more interesting It looks like he's very cardinal.

posted August 15, 2013 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Ouch...
Btw, if he finds out you don't take him seriously and he's the opposite, I'm afraid he'd most likely turn into ice and end it for good.

Moon square Pluto? This is getting more and more interesting It looks like he's very cardinal.

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You're probably right. I might want to be careful. Wish he'd warm up, but I know that's not easy for everyone. So right about him being cardinal - He's an Aries sun.

posted August 15, 2013 08:19 PM            

So we have an Aries with a Capricorn Moon, Libra Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter I guess...What about his Venus and Mars?

posted August 15, 2013 08:37 PM            

These are rather passive and subtle placements. Yeah, you need to be patient lol. On the other hand, his Venus can help him a lot with emotions when he finally warms up.

Did he confess his feelings? I mean, did he let you know verbally that he cares about you?

posted August 15, 2013 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Twitterbird05:
For me, his saturn is in my 5th (UGH) and moon in my 8th.

Definitely big challenges here I suppose.

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Yes. It suggests that his emotional reticence will make it difficult for you to feel loved and intimate with him. But knowing this is how he can affect you means you have an advantage. You know that what you're experiencing is based on his own internal conflict and not anything personal to do with you. You can then choose to accept this about him for the sake of maintaining the relationship (knowing it's not likely to change) or find someone who is able to give you what you need.

posted August 15, 2013 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Twitterbird05:
I have Saturn conjunct my Sun and Descendant, so I definitely know the energy, which is why I want to be patient with him, because I know I can be guarded too. I feel like we're at an emotional stalemate, both trying to protect ourselves.

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Oh, so you're very Saturnian! You will be fine with a moon square Saturn man. Great match!

posted August 16, 2013 12:23 AM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hehe

These are rather passive and subtle placements. Yeah, you need to be patient lol. On the other hand, his Venus can help him a lot with emotions when he finally warms up.

Did he confess his feelings? I mean, did he let you know verbally that he cares about you?

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posted August 16, 2013 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Yes. It suggests that his emotional reticence will make it difficult for you to feel loved and intimate with him. But knowing this is how he can affect you means you have an advantage. You know that what you're experiencing is based on his own internal conflict and not anything personal to do with you. You can then choose to accept this about him for the sake of maintaining the relationship (knowing it's not likely to change) or find someone who is able to give you what you need.

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posted August 16, 2013 12:32 AM            

The squares to his moon also suggest an individual who feels "confined" or comes from an enviromnet that doesn't allow much freedom of expression.

Mars-PLuto conjunct suggests passion whilst Pisces Venus is very romantic and idealistic.

The Sun , however, which is the soul of the chart, is extremely challenged by all the aspects to it.

posted August 16, 2013 05:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Twitterbird05:
No, he hasn't expressed his feelings verbally. He does consistently ask me to hang out and stays in touch. We've been dating about a month.

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I'm dating a guy with similar placements/aspects (Aries SUN, Pisces VENUS, with Moon sextile Saturn), and this is how he is too.