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Topic: Moon conjunct Pluto in synastry: how to survive?
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featherlightly
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posted August 21, 2013 11:28 PM
  
Has anyone had this aspect before? Were you the moon or Pluto, and how did it affect you?I'm currently the Pluto in a relationship with this aspect (tight orb, 0'25 degrees) and it is *killing* me. In a good way. But also in a bad way. Sweet, sweet pain and obsession and torture. I wasn't too impressed by our synastry at first and didn't expect much to come from this, but I'm shocked how fast and hard I've fallen. All my insecurities are bubbling to the surface. I find myself terrified of losing him, scared I'm not his type, worried I'm not enough, over-analyzing every action, craving him in my bones. Is it typically Pluto who's more obsessed? Because it certainly feels that way here. What does it feel like from the moon's perspective?
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Jkitty
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posted August 21, 2013 11:46 PM
LOL I've had this aspect with one of my brothers-in-law who confessed to me that he finds me very attractive in a sexual kind of way (and he's also discussed this with my sister/his wife, so she knows, too). I'm the Moon person. I admire some of his qualities, but that's it, no attraction on my part at all. I've felt very uncomfortable around him ever since he told me this. Fortunately, it doesn't have a negative impact on my relationship with my sister.My Moon conjunct his Pluto - 2 degree orb
My Mars conjunct his Venus - 3 degree orb IP: Logged |
featherlightly
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posted August 22, 2013 08:25 PM
Oh wow... that must make things awkward. How does your sister feel about it?IP: Logged |
featherlightly
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posted August 22, 2013 08:26 PM
Also, I just realized the Moon-Pluto is a double-whammy (his Pluto Square my moon at 3 degrees)... in case that makes a difference.Anyone else experience this? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 22, 2013 08:32 PM
It is unforgettable and once in a lifetime imoI don't think you ever really get over the person  ------------------
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Lioness
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posted August 22, 2013 08:38 PM
Run, run, run!!!
But I know you won't/can't. It's frustrating.. It will always have that theme.. It will be life changing in some way, that's for sure. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted August 22, 2013 09:40 PM
my on/off bf of 3 years and I have this exact conjunct. it's our closest aspect. I am moon, he is pluto. it's hard to tell what effect this has when other synastry factors are also at play, but we manage to come back together all the time despite dating others or trying to move on. it's like a compulsion to be with the other person because (as moon anyway) you feel emotionally fulfilled when pluto is near. i think pluto might be more obsessed, but at the end it'll be moon that is hurt because (I think) pluto can let go and moon will struggleIP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted August 22, 2013 09:46 PM
Oh noo, not again ... Pisces man with a scorpio moon  Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Venusian Moon
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posted August 23, 2013 01:32 AM
I hate pluto. Dont play stupid games with the moon.I have lots of pluto in my natal, synastry, and composite. And past relationships.
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I have been both pluto and other planet. and still am.
I attract those types of relationships and i enjoy them but they kill me inside. Wound me. Pluto fades they say......but it fades slowly.
So does the pain.
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Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
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Bluejay
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posted August 23, 2013 02:39 AM
@Venusian MoonWow! You do sound rather Plutonian. I can totally see Christian Bale with a clinched fist, doing a dimly lit monologue when I read that. Then, a single tear drips down his cheek. That's deep. I get it, I'm very Plutonian myself so of course if Pluto isn't involved, I'm not interested. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 23, 2013 04:07 AM
I have moon conjunct Pluto in my natal chart. My ex had his Pluto just 2 degrees from this conjunction, and his moon is opposite the conjunction. So it was a double whammy on the hard aspects. We were together for 14 years, since the age of 18. Our relationship was not easy, but I can safely say that I will love him until the day that I die. I truly have unconditional love for him, but the constant power struggles, and his inability to really deal with family issues took it's toll on our relationship. As far as being transformative, yeah, that's an understatement. He has been like my father, brother, best friend, and lover all rolled up into one person. I know that I could be with him forever, but he was raised in a very dysfunctional family where both parents are alcoholics that verbally and physically assault each other constantly. Even though my ex and his siblings know this behavior is wrong, they just turn a blind eye to it, it's all they've ever known. His parents cannot have a simple disagreement without it turning nasty, and I've always thought it is a matter of time before one of them kills the other. I cannot be around that kind of behavior without wanting to point out the fact that they are both sick/crazy and need serious psychiatric help. Since he was raised this way he has absolutely zero conflict resolution skills. So he avoids conflict, and when things upset him, he just lets it build up until he eventually blows a gasket. Either that or he just runs away to avoid it, he is a Cancer sun by the way. So problems never got resolved in a healthy way. I could not take it anymore, and pretty much checked out. It's the whole Pluto thing, if I see a problem I have to get to the bottom of it and fix it. Avoidance does not work for me. I just wish that we were both on the same level of wanting to work on problems together. I really believe that if he was able to face the darker side of himself and learn to deal with it, that we would be together forever. He used a lot of manipulative tactics, his favorite was constantly threatening to leave me, so that he could control my behavior. He was always giving me some type of ultimatum. That in turn would make me feel insecure about our relationship, and bring out my possessive and hysterical side. Pretty much everyone in his life, including family was unaware of his darker side. He is very charming and likeable to everyone he meets, and will go out of his way to help friends and strangers alike. I think these hard Pluto aspects really brought out the worst in both of us at times. He could charm everyone else, but I knew him better than he knew himself, and I think he was always very uncomfortable with that. I can literally read his mind, and he hates that. We also have moon/Neptune sextile and trine double whammy, so I think that deepens the spiritual bond. The sad thing is, I have always felt like if both of us had been more mature that we could have avoided a lot of the problems we've had in our relationship. Even now, the only reason that I feel like it's really over this time, is because he will not own up to his abusive and manipulative behavior. I cannot turn a blind eye to it, and make nice for the sake of keeping the peace. That being said, I swear I would still walk through fire for him. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 23, 2013 07:50 AM
I love your posts, Bluejay! So interesting. Very sorry you have this rough situation on your hands. But how sweet that you love your ex so much.My Pluto is conjunct my husband's moon in Libra, square my sun. I was interested in him first, it hit me like a train wreck and I literally cried myself to sleep thinking we would never be together. It took him a while to give me a second glance. Maybe because I'm much younger and he just didn't consider women in my age range. Anyway, we got engaged after one date, and that was 15 years ago. We've had our ups and downs. There were a few times that I seriously wanted a divorce. Right now we are getting along fine...but we have some irreconcilable differences that are just wearing me down as the years go by. And wearing him down. For now, we just make the best of what we have going for us.
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Faith
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posted August 23, 2013 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Oh noo, not again ... Pisces man with a scorpio moon Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Ceridwen
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posted August 23, 2013 08:04 AM
How about 8th house ruler in conjunction?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 23, 2013 08:06 AM
How about 8th house ruler in conjunction?IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted August 24, 2013 12:19 AM
Thank you Faith. I'm the one with a lot of Pluto in my chart, but I think he always had the upper hand in our relationship. On the surface anyway. We were friends for a year before we started dating, and I really didn't like him in a romantic way at first. Two of my girlfriends were obsessed with him though, and since we are all close in age they were probably feeling that aspect as well. I realized that I liked him as more than a friend when he went out for a guys night with some mutual friends, and I was beside myself with jealousy. Before that, I really thought I saw him as just a friend. Of course, at that point we were already joined at the hip, so everyone already saw us as a couple. The thought of him going out and meeting girls brought out that primal passion, which until that point I was unaware it was even there. That's Pluto for you! Now I've got my sights set on a man that my moon/Pluto conjunction opposes his Venus and sextiles his moon. We also have trine and sextile Mars/Venus. Venus and moon trine Neptune, Venus trine sun, and more. His sun is exactly on my IC and his moon is conjunct my DC and North node. If we ever do have a relationship, it will not be a casual thing, that's for sure. Ugh, I'm scared. I want to run, but I can't run from those feelings. I should say I can run but I sure as hell can't hide. IP: Logged |
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