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Dark_Sun9
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posted August 24, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto all in Scorpio 12th house, like a subconscious magician..? With this stellium i;m always knowing what other people are doing, the undercurrent energy of the situation etc while im 'using' my first house,and no one seems to know or see of the knowledge going on 'behind the scenes' haha, can anyone help me with this?

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1st House: Sagittarius Ascendant, Sagittarius Moon, Sagittarius Neptune.

2nd House: Uranus in Capricorn.

3rd House: Saturn in Aquarius.

5th House: Ketu in Aries.

9th House: Mars in Leo.

11th House: Venus + Rahu in Libra.

12TH HOUSE: Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto in Scorpio.

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 25, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Help you in what way?
The 12th house works behind the scenes.
Others can hardly see what's going on in the minds of 12th house people.
It makes one quite secretive, especially if the stellium is in a Water house (yours is in Scorpio so that definitely applies).
It can give psychic abilities but also some confusion and paranoia.

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Dark_Sun9
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posted August 25, 2013 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Help you in what way?
The 12th house works behind the scenes.
Others can hardly see what's going on in the minds of 12th house people.
It makes one quite secretive, especially if the stellium is in a Water house (yours is in Scorpio so that definitely applies).
It can give psychic abilities but also some confusion and paranoia.

Yeah i have had bad experiences of paranoia, seems to give me some quite dark fears .. would a stellium be negative for the 12th house? I believe Scorpio is quite a good sign for the 12th house as the 8th-12th seem to be interlinked? Do you know if the effects of this will impact alot more as i get older?
It defiantly gives me great insight into the undercurrent energies of people + life but i wouldn't know if to call it a psychic ability, having Moon and Neptune in the first could give clairvoyance on this i guess. I am defiently secretive though my Sag keeps me quite honest and open on most subjects. It seems to make astrology, occult all those sort of things catch my attention. I heard having mercury in the 12th is hard as its communication in the hidden mind

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1st House: Sagittarius Ascendant, Sagittarius Moon, Sagittarius Neptune.

2nd House: Uranus in Capricorn.

3rd House: Saturn in Aquarius.

5th House: Ketu in Aries.

9th House: Mars in Leo.

11th House: Venus + Rahu in Libra.

12TH HOUSE: Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto in Scorpio.

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posted August 25, 2013 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, you seem to know how it works.
I don't have planets in the 12th so I can only speak from observation. ETA I have South Node in the 12th so I can actually understand where you come from..
It seems that people who have planets in the 12th sometimes *appear* more secretive than they are, it looks like they're hiding something and that can drive people away from them because of mistrust.
That's why 12th house people may find it hard to open up to others, they're suspicious because others are suspicious of them (if that makes sense).

It's harder to express the planets in the 12th in a direct, open, way. For sure.
They can create turmoil and anxiety that seemingly creep out of nowhere!
Because your subconscious mind is sending you messages that reach you in a "coded" way - you may not realize what's going on, or why you feel a certain way, you just do..

I think it's very important for 12th house people to work on their inner world and look within themselves to get a better idea of their fears and desires.
But they shouldn't dwell on it!
Most of you guys seem to enjoy being "different" from others and kinda have a "woe is me" syndrome going on, where you feel like no one can ever get you, and that people are out there to get you..
Get out of your bubble! That's the only way!
Stop obsessing on yourself and your mind.
Do explore it for better self-understanding but don't spend all your time in your head.

The 12th house opposes the 6th - so if you wanna find some balance, do 6th house stuff, like being more *physically* present, doing immediate stuff for yourself or people, work on your *body* and not just your mind, enjoy your senses, find a *meaning* in your physical reality and combine the spiritual / unseen (12th) with the material / visible (6th).
You guys can be very helpful and show others what they can't see, but you have to get outta yourself first and actually meet others halfway.

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Dark_Sun9
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posted August 25, 2013 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Yes, you seem to know how it works.
I don't have planets in the 12th so I can only speak from observation. ETA I have South Node in the 12th so I can actually understand where you come from..
It seems that people who have planets in the 12th sometimes *appear* more secretive than they are, it looks like they're hiding something and that can drive people away from them because of mistrust.
That's why 12th house people may find it hard to open up to others, they're suspicious because others are suspicious of them (if that makes sense).

It's harder to express the planets in the 12th in a direct, open, way. For sure.
They can create turmoil and anxiety that seemingly creep out of nowhere!
Because your subconscious mind is sending you messages that reach you in a "coded" way - you may not realize what's going on, or why you feel a certain way, you just do..

I think it's very important for 12th house people to work on their inner world and look within themselves to get a better idea of their fears and desires.
But they shouldn't dwell on it!
Most of you guys seem to enjoy being "different" from others and kinda have a "woe is me" syndrome going on, where you feel like no one can ever get you, and that people are out there to get you..
Get out of your bubble! That's the only way!
Stop obsessing on yourself and your mind.
Do explore it for better self-understanding but don't spend all your time in your head.

The 12th house opposes the 6th - so if you wanna find some balance, do 6th house stuff, like being more *physically* present, doing immediate stuff for yourself or people, work on your *body* and not just your mind, enjoy your senses, find a *meaning* in your physical reality and combine the spiritual / unseen (12th) with the material / visible (6th).
You guys can be very helpful and show others what they can't see, but you have to get outta yourself first and actually meet others halfway.


That makes perfect sense, people don't seem to know whats going on behind my mind and my friend who has a 8th house stellium is always looking at me as if like 'where are you' then i look at him like ' why the **** are you lookin at me' 8th house/12th house thing haha, i do spend a lot of time 'in my head' But having a Sag ascendant with Sag moon and Sag neptune in the 1st keeps me in my body/ athletic and a need to be physicaly healthy I don't seem to resonate with 6th house activities so much
Its quite cool my 12th seems to work on its own sometimes as its scorpio, if someone says something against me etc, i seem to give like a subconcious sting/retaliation without thinking

It is hard though with my primary personal planets in the 12th and moon/neptune in the first i don't feel 'physical' at all sometimes which is a ****, haha
Thats good advice , cheers

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1st House: Sagittarius Ascendant, Sagittarius Moon, Sagittarius Neptune.

2nd House: Uranus in Capricorn.

3rd House: Saturn in Aquarius.

5th House: Ketu in Aries.

9th House: Mars in Leo.

11th House: Venus + Rahu in Libra.

12TH HOUSE: Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto in Scorpio.

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Dark_Sun9
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posted August 25, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also do you know anything on this placement?
2nd house uranus in capricorn
3rd house saturn in aquarius

They seem to sychronize well together as their the lords of eachother, is this benefic?

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posted August 25, 2013 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also do you know anything on this placement?
2nd house uranus in capricorn
3rd house saturn in aquarius

They seem to sychronize well together as their the lords of eachother, is this benefic?

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 25, 2013 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah you're bound to be quite sensitive and in tune with the unseen world with your placements.
It's quite normal.


I don't know much about mutual receptions, to be honest.
But the fact that Saturn and Uranus are involved, may mean that you can blend the need for tradition and structure (Saturn) with the need for inovation and progress (Uranus) quite well and it doesn't have to be super problematic to you - there's no real Saturn VS Uranus dynamic, it's more fluid.

Uranus in the 2nd means lack of stablity in feelings of self-worth, finances and maybe changing values.
Saturn in the 3rd points to possible problems with siblings or neighbors, and issues with communicating properly (that is supported by your 12th house Mercury).
So basically you have some karma related to comunication this life time.

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Dark_Sun9
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posted August 25, 2013 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dark_Sun9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha yeah, i've had some .. odd..deep otherwoldy experiences, though some have been the cause of paranoia ..

I have troubles with communicating fluidly from saturn ...I can hold a conversation well and am normally the centre of attention from my first/9house correspondence i figured, but saturn tends to keep it short and to the pont, aquarius is good for the great teacher though.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted August 25, 2013 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an afflicted third house Mars in Sagittarius with the ruler, Jupiter, in the twelfth house conjunct the ascendant and Mercury. Perhaps I am here to learn some lessons regarding that brash communicator, Mars? They will be good lessons with Jupiter

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