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hannaramaa
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posted August 25, 2013 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need perspective please.

Would this placement indicate a tendency for me to hold grudges against men? To me, it makes sense because Mars is symbolically male, and my Moon is in Taurus. Taurus rules the 12th house of issues and is known for holding onto negative (well, anything really) things too long.

If it doesn't symbolize holding grudges, would it simply indicate hostility towards men?

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posted August 25, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which house has Aries on the cusp?

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posted August 25, 2013 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
11th.

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posted August 25, 2013 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Groups may be hard for you.

Your hopes and dreams may seem unattainable.

Do you want me to be honest about the vibes I get from you?

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posted August 25, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Groups may be hard for you.

Your hopes and dreams may seem unattainable.

Do you want me to be honest about the vibes I get from you?



Uhm, if they're fair and not based off my interactions with Aquaguy

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posted August 25, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok-this is my take from just you and me. You can reject it if you want.
It feels like you WANT to take offense fast when someone has not insulted you.
Like you are looking for a reason, unconsciously, to be offended.

I think it is unconscious, too, and a defense mechanism

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posted August 25, 2013 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok-this is my take from just you and me. You can reject it if you want.
It feels like you WANT to take offense fast when someone has not insulted you.
Like you are looking for a reason, unconsciously, to be offended.

I think it is unconscious, too, and a defense mechanism


I accept that, although it's not a very surprising assessment.

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posted August 25, 2013 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you attribute it to--chart wise

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posted August 25, 2013 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It feels like Pluto in the natal in hard aspect. Do you have this?

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posted August 25, 2013 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Attribute my aggression? Many things chart wise. My Aries stellium. Mars inconjunct Pluto. Mars conjunct ASC. It's a 12th house Mars, but it's the equivalent of a animal backed into a corner. I think it's stronger for some reason because the house is ruled by solid Taurus (but it is in Gemini.)

Yes I have Pluto as a singleton in the 5th house, opposes my moon. It is sextile Saturn and Neptune in the 7H.

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posted August 25, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
. It's a 12th house Mars, but it's the equivalent of a animal backed into a corner
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I get this too but only if I try to retreat and not allowed to do it to gather my thoughts. Mars in the 12th

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posted August 25, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Attribute my aggression? Many things chart wise. My Aries stellium. Mars inconjunct Pluto. Mars conjunct ASC. It's a 12th house Mars, but it's the equivalent of a animal backed into a corner. I think it's stronger for some reason because the house is ruled by solid Taurus (but it is in Gemini.)

Yes I have Pluto as a singleton in the 5th house, opposes my moon. It is sextile Saturn and Neptune in the 7H.


Great post. Thanks. I would like to ask you some questions on how aspects feel, if that is Ok.

If not, that is cool.

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posted August 25, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I get this too but only if I try to retreat and not allowed to do it to gather my thoughts. Mars in the 12th

And you're a Leo sun aren't you?

Surprisingly most people retreat before I get that bad, which worries me.

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posted August 25, 2013 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Great post. Thanks. I would like to ask you some questions on how aspects feel, if that is Ok.

If not, that is cool.


I'm open.

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posted August 25, 2013 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok We started a little rocky but that makes for the best relationships

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posted August 25, 2013 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And you're a Leo sun aren't you?

Surprisingly most people retreat before I get that bad, which worries me.


Yep. I am.
I retreat in part because I sometimes tend to say things I don't mean. It's just better to do that than cause permanent damage.

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posted August 25, 2013 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep. I am.
I retreat in part because I sometimes tend to say things I don't mean. It's just better to do that than cause permanent damage.

At least you have the wisdom to do that. I say things I don't mean, but at the time they feel just.

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posted August 25, 2013 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok We started a little rocky but that makes for the best relationships


Sure, what are your questions?

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posted August 25, 2013 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

How does this feel? If you could describe how it feels from the inside, that would be very appreciated.

Mars inconjunct Pluto.

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posted August 25, 2013 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have several questions, if that is OK.

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posted August 25, 2013 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have several questions, if that is OK.


That's fine.

Mars inconjunct Pluto - I seethe a lot, and I've never taken my temper out on anybody but I could get violent if someone doesn't recognize I'm reaching my limit (although it sounds biased, I know not to push people.)

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posted August 25, 2013 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok the quincunx is an aspect of transformation. Do you feel that? If so, how?

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posted August 25, 2013 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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At least you have the wisdom to do that. I say things I don't mean, but at the time they feel just.

I don't know how old you are or anything but it's just experience of making mistakes! LOL

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posted August 25, 2013 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ok the quincunx is an aspect of transformation. Do you feel that? If so, how?


Really I only ever think of my Mars / Pluto when I'm angry. But if I had to guess I think it is constantly helping sharpen my goals and what exactly I want to do in life.

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posted August 25, 2013 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't know how old you are or anything but it's just experience of making mistakes! LOL

You have a 12th house Mars, in what sign and do you hold grudges or feel a need for revenge?

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