posted August 27, 2013 07:24 PM            

If a planet or asteroid is, say...in the 11th house, two or three degrees away from the 12th house, would you count it as being in the 11th, or 12th, or a bit of both?

Also: I know this is going to sound inane, but...yeah. How do you know which *sign* rules a house?
I understand the basic house rulers, and I *think* that I understand how different planets rule different houses (as I have Leo AC, the sun would be my chart ruler, and as my sun is in the 8th house, then would Leo rule my 8th?)
Sorry about the rudimentary questions, but I don't think I'll get a lot of responses on the Basic Astrology forum (this seems to be where most people hang out).

posted August 27, 2013 07:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You know deep down that's not a dumb question
2-3 degrees away might be too far.
If it was exactly on the cusp than it would apply to both houses.

I have mars 2 degrees away from the 12th house cusp and I don't really repress my anger or frustrations.

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Heh. Thanks.

Hm...So my Saturn is about 3 degrees from my 12th house, and it has so many aspects coming and going that it's hard to tell.

Lilith is about 2 degrees from my 8th house, and 4 from my sun, but it seems like I definitely feel that much more...but maybe it's just the close proximity to my sun, which is my chart ruler? Eh...

Every planet in my chart has so many aspects that I suppose it's hard to tell what's doing what, and where it's doing it, ha.

posted August 27, 2013 07:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
I consider a planet to be in the house where it actually appears regardless of orb to house cusp. The only time I consider it as "in" two houses is if a change in house system (say Placidus, Koch or Regiomontanus) would bump it over a house.

The planet ruling the sign on the house cusp is the ruler of that house. So if you have Leo rising and Pisces on the cusp of the 8th (assuming here, depends on latitude, time of birth, etc), then Neptune (and Jupiter by tradition) is the ruler of your 8th house. The Sun only rules your 1st house since that is where Leo is on the cusp (unless you've also got Leo on the cusp of your 12th or 2nd).

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See, this is where I get confused, because it seems like I've read in other places something different. I find you to be a sane and knowledgeable person, but I'm wondering if there are conflicting theories on this, or if perhaps I've read it wrong?

posted August 27, 2013 08:15 PM            

Also, I've had the impression that the planet associated with your rising sign is your "chart ruler".

Am I completely off base here?
I get the cusp and wide orb concept, so I understand that unless it's truly *on* the cusp, a planet is in the house it's in.

posted August 27, 2013 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yep, whatever rules your ascendant is your chart ruler as well
Whatever is on the cusp of each house decides which planet rules where. If you have Leo on the cusp of house one, the sun rules that house for example.

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posted August 27, 2013 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Okay, thanks.
So...is the part about the signs ruling different houses, depending on which planets reside there correct, or have I misunderstood that?

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You're welcome, Violets.
I am not sure about the info on house rulers. I haven't heard this until now. I've always understood the ruler of an individual house is determined by the sign on the cusp while any luminary or planet inside emphasizes the house.

Like, if you have a Leo ascendant the ruler is the sun and it is in the eighth house, in the sign Pisces. One way of looking at this is you are someone who is not superficial, you seek deep connections with others. Eighth house is the most intimate house of all so that feeling of being connected would be very important with the chart ruler here. Being in Pisces would add to this. Pisces is a water sign, prefers being emotionally bonded to others.

posted August 27, 2013 08:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Also, I've had the impression that the planet associated with your rising sign is your "chart ruler".(

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Yes, "chart ruler" and "house ruler" are two different things. I can see how that could be confusing!

The chart ruler IS a house ruler, too, but has increased significance since it rules your ascendant and so sets your entire approach to life. Your ascendant is really more than just a "mask". It's more like your entire "world view".

Next in importance are the other "angle rulers" (rules of the decendant/7th, IC/4th and MC/10th). These are the most sensitive house cusps; you may have noticed that they don't change from one house system to another with only a few exceptions like "whole sign" or "equal house".