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hannaramaa
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posted September 04, 2013 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon or Venus in Sags.

Do you guys (males more specifically than females, but all replies welcome!) like it when someone speaks their mind, even if it may be blunt? Or are you more sensitive and prefer someone softer, like a Pisces?

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posted September 04, 2013 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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posted September 04, 2013 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my best friend has both of these.

i will speak for her and say she at least likes when *i* speak my mind. she always comes to me for advice because she knows i'm honest. i'm a terrible liar so i do not bother. i can be a little blunt.

she also has sag DC though but i have a lot of sag moon friends.

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posted September 04, 2013 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
my best friend has both of these.

i will speak for her and say she at least likes when *i* speak my mind. she always comes to me for advice because she knows i'm honest. i'm a terrible liar so i do not bother. i can be a little blunt.

she also has sag DC though but i have a lot of sag moon friends.


What are the male ones like? I've known three Sag / Scorp guys and something about the Scorpio influence (but it could be the Sag! I don't know. The girl I knew was also Sag / Scorp.) makes them very sensitive, I'm just not sure if I believe it or not.

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posted September 04, 2013 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know many male ones. I dated a male Sag Venus and he was a cheater Peter


My Scorpio/sag gf is the least sensitive of all my friends with sag moon. I have a Cap, Virgo, and Taurus one too.

I feel like the most sensitive sag moons I know had Virgo suns. I had a best guy friend with this in high school but he wasnt celibate so I don't know how he was/is with relationships at all

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posted September 04, 2013 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Moon or Venus in Sags.

Do you guys (males more specifically than females, but all replies welcome!) like it when someone speaks their mind, even if it may be blunt? Or are you more sensitive and prefer someone softer, like a Pisces?


I'd rather have them speak their mind. Helps avoid misunderstanding and helps you know people better.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon (and Mars) in Sag (Libra Venus) and I prefer bluntness (not to be confused with cruelty or whining/bitchiness) to beating around the bush. And I absolutely detest manipulation, such as encouraged by some Cosmo articles on how to get a guy ask you out or whatever and make him think it was his idea.

I also trust the blunt to the one who beats around the bush because the one who beats around the bush won't always be understood and thus become resentful against the one who misunderstood (or didn't understand at all) instead of placing blame where it belongs--on him or herself for trying to be communicate with hints and clues (which can be considered manipulative and/or treating someone like a child) rather than being clear and forthright. There are fewer misunderstandings with someone blunt and don't have to wonder what's going on when someone who's "sensitive" is stomping around mad again but refusing to say what it is because he's "bigger than that" (no, you're not) or she's "too sweet" (no, you're not that, either).

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posted September 04, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love sag/scorp combos.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
girl you have it bad for sags.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sags don't like it when people play games.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^
Sags are very interesting.....
- Complains about boyfriend
- Bored of boyfriend
- Cheats on boyfriend
- Breaks up with boyfriend
- Consoles her
- next day is all over me.

The love cycle of a sag haha.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sagittarius Venus and Moon...and speaking your mind? They can appreciate it for the knowledge/data offered, and they tend to be good at not taking things too seriously or too personally, so offending them is pretty hard!

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posted September 04, 2013 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word rebound should be changed to sagbound.

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posted September 04, 2013 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
girl you have it bad for sags.

I really do. I used to not like them in my younger years, but I've come around and now I can't get enough of them! They're my DSC afterall, it's about time.

ETA: I just realized you thought I was asking because of a particular person, but I'm not. I do enjoy Sags more now, but thought about things I've said in the past and their reaction towards me vs. others, who I've seen them like better, etc. In my experienced they liked earth and water signs more.

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posted September 05, 2013 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Sags don't like it when people play games.

I wasn't asking about game playing. I meant bluntness in general like from friends, and sure, romantic interests.

What is "cruel" to a Sag? I understand how broad that is but maybe PixieJane can provide an example? I don't dole out low blows but I will also state what I think of someone (without expletives.)

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posted September 05, 2013 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And do they not like confrontation in friendships / relationships? I am wondering if this is what people really mean when they say "flighty".

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posted September 05, 2013 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I wasn't asking about game playing. I meant bluntness in general like from friends, and sure, romantic interests.

What is "cruel" to a Sag? I understand how broad that is but maybe PixieJane can provide an example? I don't dole out low blows but I will also state what I think of someone (without expletives.)



Just treat the Sag like you do everyone else. Be yourself and if someone doesn't like it, it's their problem. You don't have to change who you are for someone just because they have a Sag sun. Sometimes I am blunt with my Sag sun/stellium friend, sometimes not, but I never say really hateful things to him because if I did, like with anyone else, he would just stop talking to me. I doubt you are talking about that kind of thing. If someone does something really awful tell them off but if you take it too far over every little thing, they might feel alienated and kinda make themselves unavailable.

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posted September 05, 2013 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

The above.

In addition, I want to emphasize I'm talking Sag moon. I know a Sag sun with Scorpio Venus & Mars, and she can dish it out in blunt honesty as well as comments meant to sting but she can't take it because of her Cancer moon.

As a general rule stating something as a matter of fact is generally cool, but calling names, trying to publicly shame or humiliate, or acting all Jerry Springer (attacking a person as opposed to a behavior, for example) is not funny, not cool, and not convincing, the only thing it might do is bully someone into submission, that person almost never being a Sag who will bail, and rightly so.

Natch, you shouldn't only be "honest" about what annoys you, either, a person should hear positive feedback as even maturely delivered constructive criticism gets old if that's about all they hear. I'd go so far as to say if about all you do is correct and point out unpleasant things then you're just being mean and calling it "honest" (just as some others will manipulate and control others by pretending offense at any little thing to get their way and constant attention). And with Sags it's best to focus on the positive (which they're normally inclined to do themselves).

Other things to keep in mind is that just because you yourself might consider something a big deal or a major put down doesn't mean a Sag will. A Sag can mean no offense whatsoever and become just as confused on why others think the Sag is being mean or mocking as others get confused that the Sag doesn't beat around the bush more in "suggesting" rather than "being rude."

I wish it were easier to explain but unfortunately just because we all grew up speaking English doesn't mean we speak the same language due to wildly varying assumptions that go with the words.

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posted September 05, 2013 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin is a sag. Blunt, bossy, and bitchy but if i say something blunt to her she cries. Then we act like nothing ever happened. I made her cry a couple of times when she was being nasty.


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posted September 05, 2013 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should see how me and my Aries cousin get along, especially growing up. We gave each other hell but love each other. We give each other gag gifts that would probably get someone shot if they couldn't take a joke. He's just one of the reasons why I marvel at how easily some people fall to pieces because the way he treated me out of silly fun and play was far worse. But he didn't mean anything bad by it, and he was also fast to come to my defense and threaten sincere violence on any who menaced or threatened me. He's also stood up for me against his parents, too.

Another Aries I was with could be really passionate in both good and bad ways. She was sensitive about being multiracial blasian, but with a lot of Sag energy I said she was all the same...and she didn't mind as she knew it was an observation and statement of fact rather than judgment. But I'd have never called her "mutt" as some others did, there's no point to it and such a name would be used to degrade rather than state fact. When someone tagged our garage with a racial slur against her I painted over it and never told her about it as I saw no point in making her feel angry or bad about something she couldn't change.

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posted September 05, 2013 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Venusian Moon:
My cousin is a sag. Blunt, bossy, and bitchy but if i say something blunt to her she cries. Then we act like nothing ever happened. I made her cry a couple of times when she was being nasty.


Hahaha sometimes, Sags can put Virgos to shame on bitchiness.

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posted September 05, 2013 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptunianSag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag sun/mercury here both in 3rd house. I don't like it when people sugar coat things or are just evasive just to protect "feelings" say it as it is then move on, even if you do get hurt. I love honesty, even if it does hurt me, it helps me to move on to what really matters to me.

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posted September 05, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why be blut when you can speak you mind?

Speaking your mind doesn't necessarily mean that one has to be nasty and disrespectful.

I know many Sag's who are quite blunt and will say something that is hurtful.

I simply stay away from them.


But then , there are other Sag's who'll often say something without thinking that anyone is listening.

Like if they hven't seen you for a long time , they'll say "Wow, you are so big now!"

And then quickly realize the bluntness of what they said, try and take it back with " I meant to say that you are not as bony as you used to be!"

Usually after this comment they walk away; truly believing that they've managed to avert hurting someone with their comments.

It's quite funny to watch actually lol.

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posted September 05, 2013 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since Sagittarius detests mind games but geminis are all about them..how could this two work it out?

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posted September 05, 2013 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chargeomentum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sagg, I'm totally fine if it's a shy person and he's kinda afraid to say his opinion, but when it's someone who talks 24/7, and just blablabla never gets to the point, well I just ignore them, sometimes nod along when they speak to pretend that I listen lol. Other times I tell them to shut up and get out of my space.

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