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liquido
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posted September 08, 2013 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was with my Scorpio girlfriend for about a year and a half. We were mad for each other and had a very strong bond. It wasn't the perfect relationship because it happened during the worst period of my life. I had many issues and i couldn't give my best for the relationship.
So, the last 3-4 months i became distant and was not giving much attention to her because of the issues i had. We even didn't see each other often. I was pushing her away and i didn't really wanted to. She was hurt a lot.
During the last month before we break up officially, she initiated a relationship with another guy and then told me to break up. Now she is with him, but because we met again since then and had some very intense moments we both realized that there is something super strong between us and it doesn't worth it to let go...
Now she's asking me all the time if i have sort out my issues so we can be together again. But she's not leaving that guy if she's not sure that we can be together!!!

Now i am wondering if i should take what she did as cheating and never be with her again or to accept it because of the circumstances she did that?? Does this means she's a cheater? I know for sure that when things were good she was faithful.

The only things i know about her chart is that she has: Scorpio Sun/Venus and Mars in Virgo.

I have Virgo Sun/Venus Cancer/Mars Scorpio.

How does this look?? Does it explains anything about the strong bond that we have??

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posted September 08, 2013 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

She initiated a relationship with a new guy before you broke up officially? = Red flag!
She doesn't wan't to break up with him before she is sure that you have sorted out your issues? = Red flag!

Seriously, this doesn't sound so good for you, I think you could find something better than this, she is really dominating and abusive in her behavior, and are she a cheater? Probably yes, sorry to say it!

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posted September 08, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The un/Mars conjuntion from both ends is quite a powerful link.

Add to that, the Sun(hers)/Venus(yours)by sign blend and her Venus/your Sun conjunction.

I think she really cares for you a great deal and she is looking for guarantees.

With her Mars in Virgo, she won't doen't liketo make misakes and wth Venu alo in Virgo-she knows how to keep a cool head even when her feelings are involved.

You have your Venus in emotionally complex Cancer and Mars in Scorpio. Your actions are largely driven by emotions.

I think you should figure out whether or not you want her back and be more consistent in your intentions so that she is clear as to where you stand.

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posted September 08, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AscTaurus:
The un/Mars conjuntion from both ends is quite a powerful link.

Add to that, the Sun(hers)/Venus(yours)by sign blend and her Venus/your Sun conjunction.

I think she really cares for you a great deal and she is looking for guarantees.

With her Mars in Virgo, she won't doen't liketo make misakes and wth Venu alo in Virgo-she knows how to keep a cool head even when her feelings are involved.

You have your Venus in emotionally complex Cancer and Mars in Scorpio. Your actions are largely driven by emotions.

I think you should figure out whether or not you want her back and be more consistent in your intentions so that she is clear as to where you stand.


Yes.. She is not sure if she can trust me again because she's afraid that i may treat her badly as i did in the past, and actually she is looking for guarantees.

But i also know don't know if i can take her seriously because of the way she acted. The situation between us during the last months of the relationship was like we were separated... We just didn't tell each other to break up. But she started playing around with somebody else and then said to break up because she didnt want to be alone and also wanted to get revenge.
I could have tell her to break up but i let her do it intentionally becuase i didnt want to look bad...


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posted September 08, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zander916     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:

She initiated a relationship with a new guy before you broke up officially? = Red flag!
She doesn't wan't to break up with him before she is sure that you have sorted out your issues? = Red flag!

Seriously, this doesn't sound so good for you, I think you could find something better than this, she is really dominating and abusive in her behavior, and are she a cheater? Probably yes, sorry to say it!


Totally agree!

What if things are difficult again at some point down the road? Then what?

She's a Lillie pad hopper.

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liquido
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posted September 08, 2013 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Zander916:

What if things are difficult again at some point down the road? Then what?


I'm thinking exactly the same!!

Although it didn't happen so easily...
I neglected her for long time before she did what she did and she was always trying to make things work and was patient for long time..... I just wasn't responsive and didn't make things better but worst and worst..

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posted September 08, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Although it didn't happen so easily...
I neglected her for long time before she did what she did and she was always trying to make things work and was patient for long time..... I just wasn't responsive and didn't make things better but worst and worst..

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Well it kinda sound like it was partly your own fault, but you shouldn't be so hard on yourself... you didn't communicate well with her at that time, and sometimes you have to figure out whats wrong on your own before you can move on, but it's just not a good trait of her no matter what that se initiated another relationship while you were still "kinda" together...didnt it make you completely heart broken when you found out? It's just not ok.
I don't know how old you people are, but I also think she handled it wrong with you, she should have been more supportive and she should have tried to help you and be there for you instead of just walking away... but if you really isolated yourself she probably gave up at a point and tried to force a reaction from you, but it might just made things worse for you two...
If you really do wan't her back you should really try to communicate better about what YOU need from her and if she can't give you that (if she just tells you that you should get rid of your problems like it was nothing) then she is not willing to be there for you... your loved one should be the one to support you and lift your soul, not break it with hard words and bad action...
I know how you feel cause I'm a virgo myself, and been in the same kind of situation with my scorpio ex, I don't think he ever really figured out how hard it was for me back then, and I never really opened up, so you should really try to open up if you want it to function

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posted September 08, 2013 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes she gave up at the end.. I had completely isolated her and didn't even talk to her about my problems. I was not communicating and that was my mistake. Otherwise we could have find a solution..

I am 33 she's 29

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posted September 08, 2013 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by liquido:
Yes she gave up at the end.. I had completely isolated her and didn't even talk to her about my problems. I was not communicating and that was my mistake. Otherwise we could have find a solution..

I am 33 she's 29


Well that certainly makes it difficult for her to know what to do... some girls doesn't wan't to wait forever you know... maybe you should really give it a last chance, and see if your communication are better now, you both did something wrong (and it's wrong of her to be with someone else if it IS you she wants)
How would you feel if you were together with someone who actually still had feelings for someone else...that is really tiring and confusing...


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posted September 08, 2013 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beckylee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember responding to your other topic

Are things still the same between you 2 ?

I really think that she loves you.. I have no doubt about that. The real question is, do you really think you can overcome these obstacles that keep you guys from getting back together ?

I must have told you, I'm a scorpio and did the same stuff to my virgo bf. When we are in love, we get really scared and we do the most stupid things.

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liquido
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posted September 08, 2013 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beckylee:
I remember responding to your other topic

Are things still the same between you 2 ?

I really think that she loves you.. I have no doubt about that. The real question is, do you really think you can overcome these obstacles that keep you guys from getting back together ?

I must have told you, I'm a scorpio and did the same stuff to my virgo bf. When we are in love, we get really scared and we do the most stupid things.


i remember your response beckylee!!
things are more or less the same... She was keen to get back together but i talked bad to her a few times and she got mad at me.... But i had my reasons.. I know that i was mainly responsible for this situation but i couldn't treat her like nothing happened.
What happens now is that she wants to be assured that i can be able to have a proper relationship and that i'm over my issues (professional-financial) so we don't have the same problems again.
But what ****** me off mostly is that she's not breaking up with that guy if she's not sure that we can make it. She told me once that she prefers to be in a wrong relationship instead of being alone!!! I think she is very insecure and selfish.. I don't get it! Even her sister was negative about her relationship with that guy because he is ridiculous.
Because of that i'm thinking to cut her out completely.. I don't know what to do yet... I actually want her but i hate the way she manages all this...

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posted September 08, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will have sort out all my issues within a few weeks but i want her to be alone!!! With no one! If she loved so much as she shows she should have cut it already with that guy and not expect me to claim her.
Because she told me straight the other day that i have to go and claim her when im ready!! I find it so stupid and it annoys me...

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posted September 08, 2013 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beckylee:

I must have told you, I'm a scorpio and did the same stuff to my virgo bf. When we are in love, we get really scared and we do the most stupid things.


Hahaaha!! One of my best mates is a Scorpio and you cannot imagine what he does if he gets dumped by a girl.... He's loosing his self and does whatever he can to get the attention of the girl. He tries to find a girl straightaway and make his ex jealous and a lot more.. He flirts with any girl in town when he's in crisis like that

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posted September 09, 2013 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for beckylee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't cut her out completely ! Give her another chance It didn't work out between me and my virgo bf because he had to go back to his home country. He invited me to meet his family, to stay with him and keep in touch no matter what but it hurts me too much not to be able to see him or to touch him every day. So I feel like giving up. I've never had someone to look at me and touch me the way he does. It all felt so deep..

How does it feel when you are together ?

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posted September 09, 2013 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by liquido:
I was with my Scorpio girlfriend for about a year and a half. We were mad for each other and had a very strong bond. It wasn't the perfect relationship because it happened during the worst period of my life. I had many issues and i couldn't give my best for the relationship.
So, the last 3-4 months i became distant and was not giving much attention to her because of the issues i had. We even didn't see each other often. I was pushing her away and i didn't really wanted to. She was hurt a lot.
During the last month before we break up officially, she initiated a relationship with another guy and then told me to break up. Now she is with him, but because we met again since then and had some very intense moments we both realized that there is something super strong between us and it doesn't worth it to let go...
Now she's asking me all the time if i have sort out my issues so we can be together again. But she's not leaving that guy if she's not sure that we can be together!!!

Now i am wondering if i should take what she did as cheating and never be with her again or to accept it because of the circumstances she did that?? Does this means she's a cheater? I know for sure that when things were good she was faithful.

The only things i know about her chart is that she has: Scorpio Sun/Venus and Mars in Virgo.

I have Virgo Sun/Venus Cancer/Mars Scorpio.

How does this look?? Does it explains anything about the strong bond that we have??


How is it cheating when YOU didn't give her the love she wanted.
I don't blame her for looking for anther guy if the guy she is with isn't giving her all the love she wants.
I say get back together and have a BALANCED relationship

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I use Vulcan for Virgo's and Earth for Taurus's ruler. :D

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posted September 09, 2013 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beckylee:
Don't cut her out completely ! Give her another chance It didn't work out between me and my virgo bf because he had to go back to his home country. He invited me to meet his family, to stay with him and keep in touch no matter what but it hurts me too much not to be able to see him or to touch him every day. So I feel like giving up. I've never had someone to look at me and touch me the way he does. It all felt so deep..

How does it feel when you are together ?


So he was a Virgo.
What is your sign?

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posted September 10, 2013 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by beckylee:
Don't cut her out completely ! Give her another chance It didn't work out between me and my virgo bf because he had to go back to his home country. He invited me to meet his family, to stay with him and keep in touch no matter what but it hurts me too much not to be able to see him or to touch him every day. So I feel like giving up. I've never had someone to look at me and touch me the way he does. It all felt so deep..

How does it feel when you are together ?


Well, we feel great when together... Passion and feeling is on the red line. I just don't feel so comfortable because i know she's with someone else.

Last night i think i blew it!!
The last few days she was calling me or txting almost every day.
Yesterday she txted that she wants to see me so much and started saying how horny she is and thinking about sex with me(it was not the 1st time!!).
As the conversation went on she misunderstood something and thought that i had sex with someone else and told me that now she doesn't want to see me and that i'm not going to have sex with her again...
I replied that it wouldn't be easy for me to do it again with her, and it would be disgusting because she's doing it with this low life guy.
Then as you imagine we exchanged some more hard words and i said things about her that were not true but she did the same too.. I took it a bit far..
But i don't really regret it and i think she deserved it because she thinks that she controls me now and she can play me.. I opened my heart to her and told her everything i feel lately and possibly she holds grudges on me because i hurt her in the past and she thinks she can do whatever she wants. But i'm not stupid.. I'm a lot more clever than her and i always understand her games..

What bothers me most is that she calls me tells me all these things and within a few hours she's having sex with someone else.

Also she hates me having sex with someone else but for her it's fine doing it!!

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posted September 10, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Last night i think i blew it!!
The last few days she was calling me or txting almost every day.
Yesterday she txted that she wants to see me so much and started saying how horny she is and thinking about sex with me(it was not the 1st time!!).
As the conversation went on she misunderstood something and thought that i had sex with someone else and told me that now she doesn't want to see me and that i'm not going to have sex with her again...
I replied that it wouldn't be easy for me to do it again with her, and it would be disgusting because she's doing it with this low life guy.
Then as you imagine we exchanged some more hard words and i said things about her that were not true but she did the same too.. I took it a bit far..
But i don't really regret it and i think she deserved it because she thinks that she controls me now and she can play me.. I opened my heart to her and told her everything i feel lately and possibly she holds grudges on me because i hurt her in the past and she thinks she can do whatever she wants. But i'm not stupid.. I'm a lot more clever than her and i always understand her games..

What bothers me most is that she calls me tells me all these things and within a few hours she's having sex with someone else.

Also she hates me having sex with someone else but for her it's fine doing it!![/B]


I can understand if you feel hurted because she is with someone else...she is really mean to you, you deserve better, seriously! I mean...wtf, how can she write that to you, she sounds totally selfish and like she doesn't care about your feelings at all, even though you went too far and you had a bad argument it is understandable that you got angry

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posted September 10, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
I can understand if you feel hurted because she is with someone else...she is really mean to you, you deserve better, seriously! I mean...wtf, how can she write that to you, she sounds totally selfish and like she doesn't care about your feelings at all, even though you went too far and you had a bad argument it is understandable that you got angry


Yes she's mean and very vengeful lately.. But i insulted her a few times because i think she's worth it. She also gets very angry often when i say something not so bad to her and tells me not to call her again and BS like that... She things im going to beg her..

A week ago she told me she might be pregnant 2-3 days before the day of her period comes!!! LOL. Then because 'she dint like my reaction' she said that she's not going to have sex with me again.. But we had two days later, and after another argument i told her to go and tell all these BS about the pregnancy to somebody else and that she found the wrong man to say all this.
And now as you know she started calling again and telling me how much she wants to see me...
She acts very childish.. I know she probably has a huge crash on me and that im the one for her but i hate all this BS...!!

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posted September 10, 2013 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think you both have a lot of issues to sort out, and pointing fingers in either direction will not help addressing your mutual trust issues.

And if you canīt find some level of mutual trust again, I donīt think a relationship could ever work out, no matter how strong the attraction might be.


EDIT:
Reading again the last post:

do you even LIKE her? (as a person I mean).

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posted September 10, 2013 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 10, 2013 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:


EDIT:
Reading again the last post:

do you even LIKE her? (as a person I mean).


I like a lot in her.. But what i hate most is how she deals with relationships. She's one of the persons that can be with somebody even if she's not liking him much, just for the sake of not being alone.
I am completely different on this and i rarely have relationships. I have to REALLY like someone to commit and it takes some time.. I never do it from day one! Otherwise i prefer being alone and play around...


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posted September 10, 2013 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by liquido:
Yes she's mean and very vengeful lately.. But i insulted her a few times because i think she's worth it. She also gets very angry often when i say something not so bad to her and tells me not to call her again and BS like that... She things im going to beg her..

A week ago she told me she might be pregnant 2-3 days before the day of her period comes!!! LOL. Then because 'she dint like my reaction' she said that she's not going to have sex with me again.. But we had two days later, and after another argument i told her to go and tell all these BS about the pregnancy to somebody else and that she found the wrong man to say all this.
And now as you know she started calling again and telling me how much she wants to see me...
She acts very childish.. I know she probably has a huge crash on me and that im the one for her but i hate all this BS...!!


Omg you had sex while she is in that relationship?? Well it kinda complicates this even more! Actually you both seems to act a bit childish to be honest.. because of the way you argue, but that is what it is like when you got so many feelings blowing up
You should really (both of you) talk to each other in a nice way, though I'm beginning to believe that it is impossible now...
No matter if you are getting togethe ror not, she needs to stop seeing that guy, wtf she was also unfaithful with him or what? That relationship is getting nowhere!
She should really quit seeing that guy, take herself together and stop being angry with you, and you should really think this through, do you even love this girl? If you really do love her, then you should give it a change and stop arguing.. I know virgos can be really angry and use a sharp tongue when they feel hurted,but you should control yourself and stop doing that cause it's not gonna help at all... don't act cold, cause it sounds like you a gonna be colder and colder to her, when she really need you to express your feelings...
SO you should completely be sure this is what you want and take a nice talk without screaming and using hard words

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posted September 10, 2013 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liquido     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Omg you had sex while she is in that relationship?? Well it kinda complicates this even more! Actually you both seems to act a bit childish to be honest.. because of the way you argue, but that is what it is like when you got so many feelings blowing up
You should really (both of you) talk to each other in a nice way, though I'm beginning to believe that it is impossible now...
No matter if you are getting togethe ror not, she needs to stop seeing that guy, wtf she was also unfaithful with him or what? That relationship is getting nowhere!
She should really quit seeing that guy, take herself together and stop being angry with you, and you should really think this through, do you even love this girl? If you really do love her, then you should give it a change and stop arguing.. I know virgos can be really angry and use a sharp tongue when they feel hurted,but you should control yourself and stop doing that cause it's not gonna help at all... don't act cold, cause it sounds like you a gonna be colder and colder to her, when she really need you to express your feelings...
SO you should completely be sure this is what you want and take a nice talk without screaming and using hard words

Yes we had not just once but many times the last two months... Indeed she is very unfaithful to that guy and i don't think she was with me.
I told her also that she has to to cut it with him and get herself together and see what we are going to do but she said that she's not functioning like this and she meant that she has to be 100% sure that we can be together first.
She actually wants to be with me but i was not ready all this time.
Despite that i believe that she had to cut off with that guy and that its wrong using him and fooling him while having all this with me.

She started all this with him in an attempt to get over me but it seems that it doesn't work.


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posted September 10, 2013 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by liquido:
Yes we had not just once but many times the last two months... Indeed she is very unfaithful to that guy and i don't think she was with me.
I told her also that she has to to cut it with him and get herself together and see what we are going to do but she said that she's not functioning like this and she meant that she has to be 100% sure that we can be together first.
She actually wants to be with me but i was not ready all this time.
Despite that i believe that she had to cut off with that guy and that its wrong using him and fooling him while having all this with me.

She started all this with him in an attempt to get over me but it seems that it doesn't work.


It sounds like she doesn't know what she want's now...why does she need to use this guy, just so she isn't alone? It isn't that bad when that is the alternative...
Well she wants to be sure that you don't dump her again, she is a scorpio so she can use this powerful tool to try to control the situation, scorpios wont forget stuff like that and she feels like you did her wrong so she really enjoys to see you suffering now... she wants to make it so clear to you how wrong you did her, she is totally consumed in herself and doesn't see the other side of the situation (that you had problems and she wasnt there for you apparently)
Don't you see you both had some feelings trapped, and you need to be honest with each other and understand each other...but if you don't feel that she understands YOU then you will continue to feel bad about it and her, and your feelings wont be the same and she can sense that...
But sometimes scorpio girls mixed with virgo needs to feel safe again in order to make things right, so the moment you make her feel safe with you, she will leave the other guy and make it good again, you just have to show her you will give it another chance and dont hold a grudge and dont want revenge, then she will understand and appologies to you and try to be there for you, but you have to let her...

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