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hannaramaa
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posted September 15, 2013 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does one need to astrologically be considered "Plutonian"?

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posted September 15, 2013 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm Pluto Dominant+Chart ruled , Scorpio Asc Conj Pluto Scorpio + Jupiter Scorpio 2degree orb, N.node Scorpio 12th + Venus Scorpio 11th

What are your Pluto placements?

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posted September 15, 2013 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow, okay. So you need more than one Pluto placement I guess. I know that sounds obvious but I know my chart pretty well and I act Plutonian in my opinion.

Let's see...

My biggest Pluto aspect is Moon opposition Pluto (11H and 5H).
Pluto is also a singleton in my chart, and in the 5H. I'm not sure if we look at the Sun's placement in the 11H or not, but now you know. It's in the 11H in Aries.
I also have Mars inconjunct Pluto.
Saturn and Neptune in Capricorn (in the 7H) are sextile Pluto.
And I have a Chiron / Pluto aspect but it looks minor - the symbol is a little rectangle over a semi-square symbol.

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posted September 15, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup - intense but not with so much undercurrents like Scorpio.

Pluto trine ascendant, Pluto sesq. Sun, Pluto in the 8th, Pluto quin. Mercury and is part of a Yod.

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posted September 15, 2013 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I'm pretty plutonian despite my airy vibe.

-Scorpio sun conj Pluto and Mars. These three trine my moon and my MC.
-Scorpio rules the house cusp where my chart ruler resides.

According to Pullen, Pluto is my most dominant planet followed by sun and mercury.

@Hanna, I think it's your Pluto singleton that makes you feel Plutonian. In singleton planets, it's like a big ball of pure, cased-in energy. The way I see it, it's like a lone ranger in a person's chart. In contrast to a planet where it 'communicates' with everyone, it stands out in its own way because it's the odd one in the bunch.

Moon opp Pluto too would definitely feel Plutonian. Haha

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posted September 15, 2013 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a test you can take.
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/how-strong-is-your-pluto-here%E2%80%99s-the-score/

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posted September 15, 2013 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What does one need to astrologically be considered "Plutonian"?


A significant Scorpio influence.
A Scorpio Ascendant or Scorpio Sun or Moon.
Have Pluto is Scorpio in the 8th House.
Pluto in Scorpio (or in general but in Scorpio is obviously better) conjuncts the Asc, Sun or Moon.
Sun or Moon in the 8th House.
Sun or Moon or Ascendant trine Pluto in Scorpio.
Take in all of this overall and get an average.

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posted September 15, 2013 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
A significant Scorpio influence.
A Scorpio Ascendant or Scorpio Sun or Moon.
Have Pluto is Scorpio in the 8th House.
Pluto in Scorpio (or in general but in Scorpio is obviously better) conjuncts the Asc, Sun or Moon.
Sun or Moon in the 8th House.
Take in all of this overall.
Sun or Moon or Ascendant trine Plto in Scorpio.

Pluto in the 1st also makes a person Plutonian automatically

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posted September 15, 2013 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Pluto in the 1st also makes a person Plutonian automatically

I have no planets in the 1st, lol.
Not even the 5 significant asteroids; Ceres, Chiron, Pallas, Vesta and Juno.

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posted September 15, 2013 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I have no planets in the 1st, lol.
Not even the 5 significant asteroids; Ceres, Chiron, Pallas, Vesta and Juno.

My Pluto is in the 1st my Neptune and Uranus are in the 2nd Saturn in the 3rd and the rest are over the place lol

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posted September 16, 2013 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
My Pluto is in the 1st my Neptune and Uranus are in the 2nd Saturn in the 3rd and the rest are over the place lol

Lol.
I have most planets in my 2nd House
Sun, Venus, Vulcan, Ceres, Chiron, Vesta and Pallas. I want them in the 3rd instead
My 3rd has Mercury, Mars and Rahu (N. Node)
My 4th has Jupiter, Pluto and Part of Fortune.
My 5th has Juno and Vertex.
My 6th has Uranus and Neptune.
My 8th has Saturn.
Lastly, my 11th has Moon and Lilith.
The only thing I like about all of those is my Mercury in the 3rd House.

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posted September 16, 2013 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly love all of my placements they all seem to mesh well together. I don't think I'd want anything with less or more and in return being even more crazy airy than I already am. I would not want to be anymore intense I already feel like I overwhelm people when in relationships or even just opening up in general.

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posted September 16, 2013 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I honestly love all of my placements they all seem to mesh well together. I don't think I'd want anything with less or more and in return being even more crazy airy than I already am. I would not want to be anymore intense I already feel like I overwhelm people when in relationships or even just opening up in general.

Well like I said earlier, I would want ALL planets and asteroids in Virgo.
And ether an Aries Ascendant to have them in the 6th or a Virgo Ascendant and have them in the 1st.
Lol.

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posted September 16, 2013 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd want all that Virgo!!?

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posted September 16, 2013 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
You'd want all that Virgo!!?

Yep, so I won't take romance serious and easily get my heart broken and also so I can become a great scientist.

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posted September 16, 2013 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yep, so I won't take romance serious and easily get my heart broken and also so I can become a great scientist.

Am I like the only person who is dissatisfied with their own chart? lol

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posted September 16, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yep, so I won't take romance serious and easily get my heart broken and also so I can become a great scientist.

Aweee I'm sorry taking romance seriously is wonderful I wish other people thought like you do. Love and romance makes the world go round. You could still become a great scientist 😊if you wanted to be

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posted September 16, 2013 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Aweee I'm sorry taking romance seriously is wonderful I wish other people thought like you do. Love and romance makes the world go round. You could still become a great scientist 😊if you wanted to be

Thank you
But the people I come in contact in person think differently. They care about sexual things or just not romance at all.
I doubt I can become a great one because my Leo Ascendant clouds my reasoning and judgement most of the time because even when I know I'm wrong, I never admit defeat and then I just look more stupid. I REALLY hate my Leo Ascendant, I don't even get the positive characteristics from it either, I'm not creative or attractive. (apparently Leo Ascendants are supposed to be the most attractive Ascendant)
Sorry to sound like a pessimist, but this is what I feel.

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posted September 16, 2013 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Thank you
But the people I come in contact in person think differently. They care about sexual things or just not romance at all.
I doubt I can become a great one because my Leo Ascendant clouds my reasoning and judgement most of the time because even when I know I'm wrong, I never admit defeat and then I just look more stupid. I REALLY hate my Leo Ascendant, I don't even get the positive characteristics from it either, I'm not creative or attractive. (apparently Leo Ascendants are supposed to be the most attractive Ascendant)
Sorry to sound like a pessimist, but this is what I feel.

I don't like admitting that I'm wrong either so I completely understand where you're coming from there. And yes people nowadays just don't care about anything worthwhile anymore. But you have to remember that there's someone out there who feels the same way you just haven't met them yet. You're still so young just like I am just a little younger lol but you'll get there don't ever change how you feel for anyone. If they can't accept how you feel then they aren't worth having in your life. It'll all be okay sweetheart I promise

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posted September 16, 2013 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercurian Intellect     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I don't like admitting that I'm wrong either so I completely understand where you're coming from there. And yes people nowadays just don't care about anything worthwhile anymore. But you have to remember that there's someone out there who feels the same way you just haven't met them yet. You're still so young just like I am just a little younger lol but you'll get there don't ever change how you feel for anyone. If they can't accept how you feel then they aren't worth having in your life. It'll all be okay sweetheart I promise

Thank you, I appreciate it sweetie
It's just so hard to keep that mentality and optimism, but I will keep that in mind, thanks
You remind me of myself so much for some reason by the things you say
I also think Mars in the 3rd in Scorpio and Leo Ascendant powers my arrogance in arguments.

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