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Regulus18
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posted September 19, 2013 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For a good part of my life I've known my astrological line up. I have always identified with the Scorpions and their overall vibe. My chart offers no real insight as to where my intensity seems to come from. Pluto only aspects my Ascendant and Mercury.

Today on my subway ride home I found out my Lilith is in Scorpio. EUREKA! I thought...but what does it mean for a gay man? And in what ways is it similar or different from the Sun Scorpions?

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PlutoFish
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posted September 20, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio lilith really isn't that powerful a placement, depending on what house its situated?
What aspect is Pluto making to your Ascendant?

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Regulus18
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posted September 20, 2013 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

My Scorpio Pluto is in the 14th Degree, my Ascendant is in the 14th degree of Virgo.

My Pluto also makes a square aspect to my 12th degree Mercury in Leo.

I don't know...I've been trying to figure this one out for a while. I tried explaining Lilith to a friend of mine a week ago...and found it nearly impossible to personify mine.

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Regulus18
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posted September 20, 2013 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith is in my fourth house

Pluto is in the third house.

Mercury is in the 11th house.

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Kerosene
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posted September 20, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith is probably going to be happy in scorpio.
She is suppose to be domicile in capricorn, after all she is the anti moon
Scorpio is where moon is debilitated and she possess a few plutonic traits.

Lilith by her self probably won't make a bigger impact, unless she's in conjunction with the sun or moon.
You can google lilith in signs too

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posted September 20, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contrary to what others seemed to experience, I ahve found the Black Moon Lilith to be very significant, though in a hard to pin down way.
If I had to ascribe a sign to her, I think it would be SCorpio, so a BML in Scorpio might be very intense in certain respects.
It is probably not as general or allencompassing trait as the Sun, but when it comes to the "emotional underbelly", there is a very deep and often complicated attitude or experience of emotions. They run very very deep, but might also feel a bit "dangerous".

IF you peel away all the layers of civilized behaviour and the "Do`s" and "Don`ts", you will encounter a very untamed, uncivilized, edgy "shadow-Self" (Shadow meaning that it is usually not seen by the light of day, when you are your reasonable Sun-SElf), whose emotions can be quite extreme (because they are not reigned in by external matters), THAT is your Black Moon.

Usually I have seen people have different reactions to it.
They may flat out refuse her, push her into the subconsciousness and deny her existence (usually this leads to them meeting THEIR Lilith in the outside).

If they embrace her, they may be shunned by society for not being like they are "supposed to be".

The problem with BML is there is no room for compromise (and not in one of the fixed signs for sure); they tend to seem quite extreme to others, often a feeling of them not fitting in because of their sexuality for example (in the case of Lilith in SCorpio, 8th house or aspecting Pluto, this seems to often happen).

Something is very different about these people.

On the other hand if one embraces their BML and let her live (Without denying the other, more responsible, social side of them), it might open the path to a very deep honesty and truthfulness, intense bonding (though always ONLY a soul-to-soul-bond, never one that is dictated by society`s rules, which is the reason she comes up in taboo-relationships as well as affairs or that these relationships might break apart once one tries to make them "official" ).

Unfortunately if BML is suppressed and denied, she can get really nasty.
Think of the rage of a "woman scorned"; the emotions tend to get really volatile, if suppressed too long and like in a pressure cooker break out after a while (Sometimes years).
All kind of nasty things could happen:
Jealousy, angry outbursts, even violence, powerstruggles,

And yes, it also needs to be admitted, that often in sexually or emotionally motivated crimes BML will come up, too (though that is her perverted form).

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Ceridwen
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posted September 20, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contrary to what others seemed to experience, I ahve found the Black Moon Lilith to be very significant, though in a hard to pin down way.
If I had to ascribe a sign to her, I think it would be SCorpio, so a BML in Scorpio might be very intense in certain respects.
It is probably not as general or allencompassing trait as the Sun, but when it comes to the "emotional underbelly", there is a very deep and often complicated attitude or experience of emotions. They run very very deep, but might also feel a bit "dangerous".

IF you peel away all the layers of civilized behaviour and the "Do`s" and "Don`ts", you will encounter a very untamed, uncivilized, edgy "shadow-Self" (Shadow meaning that it is usually not seen by the light of day, when you are your reasonable Sun-SElf), whose emotions can be quite extreme (because they are not reigned in by external matters), THAT is your Black Moon.

Usually I have seen people have different reactions to it.
They may flat out refuse her, push her into the subconsciousness and deny her existence (usually this leads to them meeting THEIR Lilith in the outside).

If they embrace her, they may be shunned by society for not being like they are "supposed to be".

The problem with BML is there is no room for compromise (and not in one of the fixed signs for sure); they tend to seem quite extreme to others, often a feeling of them not fitting in because of their sexuality for example (in the case of Lilith in SCorpio, 8th house or aspecting Pluto, this seems to often happen).

Something is very different about these people.

On the other hand if one embraces their BML and let her live (Without denying the other, more responsible, social side of them), it might open the path to a very deep honesty and truthfulness, intense bonding (though always ONLY a soul-to-soul-bond, never one that is dictated by society`s rules, which is the reason she comes up in taboo-relationships as well as affairs or that these relationships might break apart once one tries to make them "official" ).

Unfortunately if BML is suppressed and denied, she can get really nasty.
Think of the rage of a "woman scorned"; the emotions tend to get really volatile, if suppressed too long and like in a pressure cooker break out after a while (Sometimes years).
All kind of nasty things could happen:
Jealousy, angry outbursts, even violence, powerstruggles,

And yes, it also needs to be admitted, that often in sexually or emotionally motivated crimes BML will come up, too (though that is her perverted form).

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Regulus18
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posted September 23, 2013 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Regulus18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lilith in scorpio is trine my cancerian sun. 2 degree orb. That's probably it.

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