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elixir
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posted September 21, 2013 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With chiron conjunct venus in synastry, who inflicts the pain?

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posted September 23, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say both, but conj. there is a potential for a healing love! Just take time , to build the trust and understand that everything has a purpose.
Rumi- said you have to keep breaking your heart until it open's!!! That way you can heal and love unconditionally.

I have this with my beau!

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posted September 28, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It s tough. Im constantly in a deadlock with the man I have this aspect with. We dont even have a relationship, we just keep hurting each other, cracking our hearts open. It is so painful, but we keep coming back for more pain lol. Im Chiron, he is Venus (we have also a square btw his Chiron and my Venus), so it is a double whammy.
There is a need for emotional intimacy with each other, these magical tiny moments make up for all the pain. He denies everything in words, but his behavior shows otherwise.

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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted September 28, 2013 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this with "you know who" as well though through a solstice opposition.
But the effects are still felt strongly, none the less.
I'm the Chiron, he's the Venus.
I'm the one with the wounding and pain, and I feel that because of this, I'm the one causing him hurt by running from the connection, whereas he's there, ready to for me to come into his life and love and accept me wholeheartedly, but I delay the process.
I feel I'm very vulnerable to him because of the close bond we share... Its like he can see all of me, right down to my deepest self, and he has the choice of either embracing all of that and bringing me healing through his love and devotion, or causing me further hurt by rejection, and adding to my inner pain.
Which then causes me block him out and "push" him away so to speak, to avoid any future potential wounding.
Although he has never hurt me and I know that'd never be his intention. He's such a sweet and caring soul... but despite our bond being so deep, close and loving, it causes me to run for the hills, out of my own insecurities and fears.

Do you share this aspect with someone, elixir?

~ Lavender

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elixir
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posted September 29, 2013 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I share this with my older sister. I always felt she was jealous of me. She told me so herself. I don't trust her because I feel like she feeds off my insecurities when I just want to move past all of it. At the same time I sense she feels hurt by me but I don't know why. She feels hurt when I don't pay attention but I try to remove myself from drama with her.

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posted September 29, 2013 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw
I'm sorry about that.
Look like she has some insecurities of herself to work through..

Are you the Chiron or Venus?

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jjj
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posted September 29, 2013 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
He's such a sweet and caring soul... but despite our bond being so deep, close and loving, it causes me to run for the hills, out of my own insecurities and fears.

Very interesting, Lavender.

If you know that he would not hurt you, but on the contrary, that he is ready to accept you wholeheartedly, why do you still run away from him? You cant help it? Do you love him as much as he loves you?

Things are crazy with this man I share the Venus/Chiron conj/square in longitudes (the orbs are not very close, 5 deg). But my Chiron parallels his Venus closely in declinations and I recently discovered that my Juno contraparallels his Venus as well.

We recently spent one week together (with other people, a group). What happens is that the attraction is palpable, so we both behave like obsessed (especially he)... he cannot stand next to me, talks to everyone, except me, sits at the dinner table as far away from me as possible. It is as if we were each other's enemies and want both know at every moment where the other is. I feel this strong urge to stare at him, he is never looking at me, controlling his head movements and turning his eyes upwards when our glances cross (haha!). He has pain expression on his face all the time.

I couldnt help but confronted him on the first day of the trip why he avoids me. He denies everything, but it is so obvious that everyone else noticed it as well.

This is Chiron/Venus gone bad probably. Now is the first day back and I already miss him so much .

I tried to relax and to forget about it and not add any pressure, but it is impossible. We cant be in the eyesight of each other. The only solution would probably be running into each others arms and spending a night together.

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posted September 29, 2013 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like he's afraid of the intimacy or being too vulnerable in your presence, like I am with mine.

Of course, there is great love there from my end... It is very intense and deep.
Its unlike anything else I've ever experienced before.
And that's why it freaks me out.
This connection feels as if its almost too good to be true, and at times I feel as though I don't deserve it.
I have my natal Venus squared by Uranus and Neptune that causes me to act so irrationally... But its strange though, I haven't reacted this way to anyone else before him.
And by running i don't mean actual physical running, more psychological and emotional.
But again, its just my own fears I have to overcome. Fear of closeness, of being so vulnerable and open.
I sound so nuts lol. I wasn't like this before I came across him...

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jjj
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posted September 29, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavender... assuming that you want to open up to this person and not to loose him, what do you think would help? If his presence makes you so vulnerable, would it be better not to see each other? Or is it unbearable? Do you need his (gentle, not pressurizing) presence to overcome these inner blockages and fears?

What I find weird it that this man seems to fear my presence, yet seeking it.

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posted September 29, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jjj:
Lavender... assuming that you want to open up to this person and not to loose him, what do you think would help? If his presence makes you so vulnerable, would it be better not to see each other? Or is it unbearable? Do you need his (gentle, not pressurizing) presence to overcome these inner blockages and fears?

What I find weird it that this man seems to fear my presence, yet seeking it.


Not sure if this is the case with him too;
But when you are in that vulnerable state, all you want at that moment is to just be with yourself, away from anyone else and just spend some time alone, thinking and processing the connection. Overtime, this allows me to accept my fears and work at them and release them, which brings on great healing.

I still have a lot of inner work and releasing to do before I come together with him.
But that's the beauty of these kind of connections you see, they allow you to purge and cleanse any baggage or emotional blockages you have within you.
And as a result you come out more stronger and more ready/willing to experience a union with them.
Its a very deep connection that amplifies everything to the 10th degree. The good and the bad.
When we're both in a more harmonious state its bliss, heaven, euphoria, dreamland lol.
But when we have issues come up, it gets very rocky and a volcano of emotions erupt.
But again, that's only so we can work at them and release them.

If he is ignoring you at this point or avoiding you, let him. He is only trying to process the connection. It doesn't mean his feelings for you have changed, he needs some time to to think things though.
When he is ready he will open up to you more.

Wishing you great luck

~ Lavender

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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted September 29, 2013 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked my progressions and transits and T. Saturn-NN conjunction is exact on my progressed Venus now.

I guess this is whats contributing to it as well.
Its amplifying all my insecurities at this point, making me feel unworthy of his love.

Elixir and jjj,

Maybe you should check their transits and progressions to see more clearly why they are behaving this way towards you.
It may not be about you but something going on with them that are causing them to do this

~ Lavender

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jjj
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posted September 29, 2013 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lavender,

you are so right about needing to be alone while processing the insecurities rising from the connection. I need the alone time as well.

As for transits, mine has tr Uranus exactly conjunct and tr Pluto squaring his Aries venus and tr Chiron conjunct his Pisces Sun right now. As I dont know his birth time, tr Saturn may already square his Aqua moon.
In the progressions, tr Saturn opposes his prg Taurus sun and tr Pluto opposes his prg Cancer mars. Quite tough transits.

PS tr Saturn on your prg Venus is certainly hard. tr Saturn passes all my personal planets right now and squares my prg Aqua Sun, so Im not in a great place either.

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Lavender CrystalSwan
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posted September 30, 2013 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavender CrystalSwan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
Lavender,

you are so right about needing to be alone while processing the insecurities rising from the connection. I need the alone time as well.

As for transits, mine has tr Uranus exactly conjunct and tr Pluto squaring his Aries venus and tr Chiron conjunct his Pisces Sun right now. As I dont know his birth time, tr Saturn may already square his Aqua moon.
In the progressions, tr Saturn opposes his prg Taurus sun and tr Pluto opposes his prg Cancer mars. Quite tough transits.

PS tr Saturn on your prg Venus is certainly hard. tr Saturn passes all my personal planets right now and squares my prg Aqua Sun, so Im not in a great place either.


Wow, those are some tough transits indeed!
I think right now it'd be best for the both of you to give each other some space.
Go with the flow of the transits and don't try to force anything to happen.
They will be over soon enough

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