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Topic: Schizophrenia in astrology
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NeptunianSag
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posted September 21, 2013 06:10 AM
  
I'm just wondering what aspects would make someone schizophrenic? A feeling of being disconnected from the world and self, not being able to tell what is real and what isn't and general confusion. This sounds alot like pisces and neptune. I have neptune in my third and I sometimes feel like I have mild schizophrenia. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted September 21, 2013 06:20 AM
Here the chart of a schizophrenic i personally know. The birthtime is unknown though.  IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted September 21, 2013 11:44 AM
My sister was diagnosed as schizophrenic on time and bipolar another time. I don't know which would apply now, but she's definitely got trouble. She has a sun-Mercury (and possibly moon) conjunction in Cancer, square Aries Saturn. Her Uranus-Pluto conjunction in Virgo is sextile sun-Mercury..maybe that fuels her overconfidence (the "highs" in the manic swings.) As with the chart Nahyt posted, my sister has a water sun and Mercury, plus Jupiter in Leo. She has had delusions of grandeur, so that just fits. (NOT saying all Jupiter Leo people have this problem, of course.) But maybe it's the heavy emotional orientation combined with a heavy ego that throws things out of whack. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 21, 2013 03:53 PM
I have the chart of a schizophrenic (fully schizophrenic, no confusion regarding the diagnosis) with birth time, but it's such an irksome process to post an anonymous chart on here that I'll just look at it and give you the details. You guys can make of it what you will.What I noticed immediately is that the person's Neptune is pretty afflicted, as well as their Jupiter. Pisces sun, Sag AC...so the afflicted Neptune might have more of an effect on the individual? Anyhoo, I'll post more about it as I have time.
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Violets
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posted September 21, 2013 04:06 PM
Neptune conj Moon in Scorpio, 11th house.Neptune aspects:
Square Aquarius Mercury and Pisces Sun in 2nd house
Square Virgo Jupiter in 8th Jupiter at 0 degrees Virgo
Sun at 0 degrees Pisces Moon square Mercury Interestingly, this person's afflicted Jupiter is also the apex of a Yod involving Mercury and Mars.
This person has done absolutely amazing things with their life, and creates beautiful art and music, in addition to being extraordinarily intelligent and having an amazing grasp of their mental health issues. Interesting stuff!
<Edit> Uggh. Astro.com and their 9 degree orbs. Had to edit out some of the aspects there. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 21, 2013 04:15 PM
I have the chart of a diagnosed Schizophrenic, she also has an afflicted 2nd house Cap Neptune, its conjunct Venus by 4 degree by her 11th house Libra Moon squares both under 2 degrees.Like the chart posted her house system is off, there isnt a balance of all four elements..she only has earth and water
She has a Scorp AC/Taurus DC
Pisces IC/Virgo MC Everyone i know of with this type of house system is a bit out there!
Another person i know with all air and fire angles has OCD, diagnosed and potentially some other issues! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 21, 2013 04:15 PM
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Gabby
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posted September 21, 2013 04:23 PM
Just looked at another chart of my friends daughter, they are in the process of trying to find out why her daughter thinks she is possessed and sees things, she also has only air and fire angles.IP: Logged |
Venus De Milo
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posted September 22, 2013 03:36 AM
My sister was born during a Neptune/Uranus conjunction in Capricorn, which opposes her Cancer Moon (Moon conjunct Jupiter & Chiron, fyi).She's a Pisces Sun with a Venus singleton and absolutely no fire planets or placements in her chart. She's all earth & water. The Venus singleton is her only air sign. She's not schizophrenic though, she's bipolar and sadly, very manipulative and malevolent. I can't have any contact with her. She's causes too much pain, wreaks havoc with my sense of self and my own mental stability. I would describe her as.... disturbed. Its not her fault... our father is a twit, but her mother is a real piece of work that, its really no wonder she is the way she is. Its very sad. (we have different mothers and its hard to believe, but her mother makes mine almost look... OK. I probably have one of the worst mothers of anyone I grew up with, easily) IP: Logged |
next to neptune
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posted September 22, 2013 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by Venus De Milo:
My sister was born during a Neptune/Uranus conjunction in Capricorn, which opposes her Cancer Moon (Moon conjunct Jupiter & Chiron, fyi).She's a Pisces Sun with a Venus singleton and absolutely no fire planets or placements in her chart. She's all earth & water. The Venus singleton is her only air sign. She's not schizophrenic though, she's bipolar and sadly, very manipulative and malevolent. I can't have any contact with her. She's causes too much pain, wreaks havoc with my sense of self and my own mental stability. I would describe her as.... disturbed. Its not her fault... our father is a twit, but her mother is a real piece of work that, its really no wonder she is the way she is. Its very sad. (we have different mothers and its hard to believe, but her mother makes mine almost look... OK. I probably have one of the worst mothers of anyone I grew up with, easily)
How is her mars or uranus doing? I guess they are weak in her chart?
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starmoon
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posted September 22, 2013 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
I'm just wondering what aspects would make someone schizophrenic? A feeling of being disconnected from the world and self, not being able to tell what is real and what isn't and general confusion. This sounds alot like pisces and neptune. I have neptune in my third and I sometimes feel like I have mild schizophrenia.
this topic isn't at all helpful. it would lead people to believe that mental illness can be explained by a chart. in some cases (ie. OCD, depression, etc.) maybe it can because of social/environmental factors, but not so much with schizophrenia. the aspects are your family for schizophrenia. this is a mainly genetic mental illness and it (rarely) manifests in someone who doesn't have mental illness in their family genetics. there might be commonalities in the chart of those diagnosed, but not everyone who shares their chart aspects would have it IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted September 22, 2013 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
this topic isn't at all helpful. it would lead people to believe that mental illness can be explained by a chart. in some cases (ie. OCD, depression, etc.) maybe it can because of social/environmental factors, but not so much with schizophrenia. the aspects are your family for schizophrenia. this is a mainly genetic mental illness and it (rarely) manifests in someone who doesn't have mental illness in their family genetics. there might be commonalities in the chart of those diagnosed, but not everyone who shares their chart aspects would have it
I have to agree with this statement!!!
Plus I know people with a lot of these placements and aspects and they are not mentally ill at all.
In general there are only so many zodiac signs and planets with aspects, too many people with similar charts.. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted September 22, 2013 12:33 PM
I will agree that chart placements can't always paint a black and white picture of what someone's mental state is going to be (absolutely agree with both of you on that one), BUT...I have to offer up a big, fat disagreement with the statement that schizophrenia is primarily a hereditary issue. That has not been proven at all, although it is suspected that it's a combination of genetics and environmental stressors. Sorry, but I had to add that.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Just looked at another chart of my friends daughter, they are in the process of trying to find out why her daughter thinks she is possessed and sees things, she also has only air and fire angles.
Check out the Kaali, Gabby. Come back and tell me what you find.
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Gabby
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posted September 22, 2013 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
this topic isn't at all helpful. it would lead people to believe that mental illness can be explained by a chart. in some cases (ie. OCD, depression, etc.) maybe it can because of social/environmental factors, but not so much with schizophrenia. the aspects are your family for schizophrenia. this is a mainly genetic mental illness and it (rarely) manifests in someone who doesn't have mental illness in their family genetics. there might be commonalities in the chart of those diagnosed, but not everyone who shares their chart aspects would have it
Tendency's can be seen, but not an illness. Just like a Libra Rising has the tendency to be small framed and have fine hair and a Pisces Mars has the tendency to let people run them over and martyr themselves to the point they lose their softness....this isnt the case with every Libra Rising or every Pisces Mars but it a higher possibility with them than it is with say a Taurus Rising and an Aries Mars.
You cant call it on just the placements, the environment, the will of the person and the placements that give that tendency an easier expression would all play into this becoming a reality! I know people who have had very tough lives, grew up homeless, raped by moms boyfriends, mom was drug addict prostitute and started her to do the same until her mom committed suicide, leaving her at 16 to take care of her little brother n sister while still living on the streets and she somehow became stronger from it, she was emotionally hurt but mentally grew stronger from the adversity.
Then i knew of someone who admittedly only complaint was their parents traveled and left them with their step mom who drunk herself into black outs and let them party all the time. They had money, friends and family...and they mentally fell apart under the weight of it their dad not spending a lot of time with them, they had bi-polar disorder among other things.... 1st had a very strong mercury, well supported and exalted in their chart the other had a very debilitated mercury.... All we are doing is looking at how the chart shows tendency's we are not labeling people because free will can change anything in the chart! Well, i dont think my free will can change my fine hair and small bones from my being a libra rising, or else id have done it! IP: Logged |
Zander916
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posted September 22, 2013 09:06 PM
I didn't read all of the posts yet. I know a family where multiple people were Schizophrenic. It was only the females in the family.. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 22, 2013 09:08 PM
I just looked at the chart of Sybil, her DNA is sitting on an extremely stressed aqua mercury, mercury is part of 2 t-squares in her 3rd house! Also, again the angles, if the birth time is correct. are only water/earth.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 09:09 PM
All we are doing is looking at how the chart shows tendency's we are not labeling people because free will can change anything in the chart! Well, i dont think my free will can change my fine hair and small bones from my being a libra rising, or else id have done it! I am Libra rising and the SAME degree as you and I am tall( 5'6), medium boned and thick hair  ------------------
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Gabby
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posted September 22, 2013 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]All we are doing is looking at how the chart shows tendency's we are not labeling people because free will can change anything in the chart! Well, i dont think my free will can change my fine hair and small bones from my being a libra rising, or else id have done it! I am Libra rising and the SAME degree as you and I am tall( 5'6), medium boned and thick hair [/B]
Thank you Ami, thats what im saying exactly!
A tendency towards something doesnt mean its going to be straight across the board for everyone the same, so if someone has certain aspects you cant label them saying they will be exactly like 'this', because there is so many variables that change how things play out!
Side not, your so lucky! I wish i had thick hair and wasnt 5'2!! LOL
Ive seen pictures of you, your thin, you look delicate and feminine, like a libra rising! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 09:20 PM
Thank you. I am thin but I have medium size bones like not small wrists etc. and aloe juice makes my hair thick ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 09:22 PM
People freak about this subject but one can see many things that can POINT to conditions. Moon conj Deja points to Borderline PD.I am not going to fight about it but that is one man's( thin, delicate woman's) opinion. IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted September 22, 2013 09:29 PM
The Three Faces of Eve is a 1957 American film adaptation based on a book by psychiatrists Corbett H. Thigpen and Hervey M. Cleckley, who also helped write the screenplay. It was based on their case of Chris Costner Sizemore, also known as Eve White, a woman they suggested might suffer from multiple personality disorder..
She also has DNA conjunct her Pisces Mercury like Cybil...her Pisces Jupiter is conjunct merc by 1 degree, squared by Saturn and Mars. Leo Neptune in 12th house inconjunct Merc.
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Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 09:33 PM
WOW------------------
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Gabby
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posted September 22, 2013 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Check out the Kaali, Gabby. Come back and tell me what you find.
Kaali conjunct Mercury in Cancer(2 degrees) squared by Aries saturn on her IC(inbetween Kaali and Merc)
Cancer Merc inconjunct Aqua Uranus IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 09:45 PM
Can you give all the degrees, Gabby? xx------------------
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