posted September 23, 2013 05:46 PM            

Others may or may not agree. I'm seeing the Leo Venus here with square to Pluto intensifying it, adding the jealousy in there.
It sounds tough to me. I'm not sure how to get him around and my nature would be to say screw it.
Are you prepared for a relationship with all of this? I don't think it will go away, or not soon or easily.

Sorry to be pessimistic but that's my honest opinion. I don't believe in sugar coating and giving false hope. Maybe others will have solid, positive advice.
That Pluto is really strong here I think.

posted September 23, 2013 05:53 PM            

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posted September 23, 2013 06:22 PM            

I do act just like him, ignoring a person if I feel slighted or hurt, but I'm not jealous in any way. I'm possessive and I will snark if I see someone I love super praising someone other than me... And I still say jealousy and possessiveness are two distinct feelings, no matter what anybody says. xD

posted September 23, 2013 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ash20:
He is a virgo with scorpio moon, venus in leo, mars in libra, mercury in libra. He has venus square pluto in his natal at 4 degrees and we have it in synastry at 2 degrees.
He always assumes im doing the worst! And now he is back (he has done this before) to completely ignoring me, no matter how much i reach out. Ive tried to give him space and then contact him after a few days but nothing works! This has been happening since the very beginning of us talking.
I will admit that in the beginning i didn't show much interest in him bc at the time i was still involved with another guy and in love (but it was coming to an inevitable end). *We all worked together*
The virgo guy bluntly told me that i didnt seem to really like him and from there the ignoring /withdrawing started. I didnt pay much attention to it then bc we weren't serious, so i kinda brushed it off and didnt contact him. From there he witnessed me talking to other guys (&girls lol). Im not a big flirt but some of the people tried to talk to me at the job, and i didnt realize at the time how jealous the virgo could be until waaay later. I honestly thought he didnt care.
Eventually we started back talking but were on/off because of him never coming through/standing me up on dates HE initiated we go on. So i would get ****** and be done but would always end up forgiving him.
In May we started to date again and this tim more officially. Thats when i became aware of his suspicious/ jealous nature. Always accusing me of things for the simplest reasons , like me not texting back "in time" or swearing i was still messing with the other guy from work. Basically everyday was an argument and he had double standards which i hated!
We had a misunderstanding and he ignored me for a month in a half. Recently he got back in touch all was going well for a few days but now he is back to ignoring me all because he thought i had ignored his text when really i was doing something else.
I dont want to go another month without him. I really believe ive fallen in love with him. But now it feels like he is trying to get back at me for how i acted in the beginning.
What should i do with this virgo?

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Oh my god same exact situation i am dealing with right now with Mr. Gemini. He is a virgo moon, venus in cancer, mars in pisces. He also has venus square pluto and is pretty suspicious also if i dont answer a text. Same exact thing is happening. I left him alone then we communicated again. Now im leaving him alone again. He is avoiding me.

I am sad but i think i am ready to throw in the towel.

posted September 24, 2013 07:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I would just give up and begin the healing process, as if he is dead. Especially if he's a third decan Virgo...the stubbornness of Taurus just makes them refuse to budge, and once they are offended or turned off, they can remain offended forever.

And the kind that would play head games, freezing you out and then calling you back again on a whim, probably aren't really mature enough to settle down or anything, anyway.

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posted September 24, 2013 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I would just give up and begin the healing process, as if he is dead. Especially if he's a third decan Virgo...the stubbornness of Taurus just makes them refuse to budge, and once they are offended or turned off, they can remain offended forever.

And the kind that would play head games, freezing you out and then calling you back again on a whim, probably aren't really mature enough to settle down or anything, anyway.

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posted September 24, 2013 10:09 AM            

Isn't it annoying how charming they are? But, really this combination of planets creates a kinda jerkish, boastful personality. (sorry if i offend anyone...but the funny part is you can tell these Virgo types that and they'll smile and say 'yup, thats me!')

posted September 24, 2013 10:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
I am a Virgo female, with a Venus in Libra and Mars in Leo ( reversal to him), and I act exactly to a point like him. I do the ignoring thing at a drop of a hat. And i really mean it. If I ignore someone, and they don't come to me, I'd never reach out to restore the connection, it will die. Ignoring means someone really did me the wrong way. Virgos tend to hold grudges for the longest time, so we will retaliate, sooner or later, at any chance we have. If you treated him poorly in the beginning, you'd have to pay for it later. It's the way it is. Once you suffered enough and he's satisfied with it, the things get smooth.
You do have to do all the work by yourself now, however. Chase him.

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But i have been chasing him! To the point of almost looking like a fool and now im just feeling played. Im an aqua with sag moon, aries venus, mars cancer. I dont exactly give up so easy on people i like lol. I blame it on my aries venus! But when someone is consistently ignoring me, i take it they're not interested anymore and im just being annoying.
And i thought when a virgo guy withdraws you were supposed to leave him alone and not bug him??

posted September 24, 2013 10:26 AM            

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Wow! I went through this... He was a Third Decan. Virgo... with Venus in Leo and a Scorpio Moon!!

Isn't it annoying how charming they are? But, really this combination of planets creates a kinda jerkish, boastful personality. (sorry if i offend anyone...but the funny part is you can tell these Virgo types that and they'll smile and say 'yup, thats me!')

And you'll begin to see how they really are. I worked together with this Virgo and was instantly charmed. We became close friends fast and fooled around. Then we both started seeing other people. Now its been a few years and we are both in steady relationships. He won't even talk to me now and we still have to work together! Maybe just an offhand comment. But, apparently if you or him is in a relationship you are officially blocked..he shunned me. I'm an Aqua and can't understand this behavior. I want to talk and be friends still.
I think that deep down this means that the Virgo Sun /Scorp Moon cared about you too much. When they realize they are feeling too deeply for someone out of their grasp, they will randomly cut ties and ignore you. :/

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Lol im an aqua too and worked with my virgo also. And you are right about the boastful thing. At first i thought he was this sweet, shy guy, but soon after getting to know him better the cocky side showed up lol.
I never really found him charming though. He tried to be but it came off so unauthentic, that i would not call that charming. Someone else noticed and thought he was trying to hard.

posted September 24, 2013 11:37 AM            

That jerky, boastful personality doesn't apply to me... I'm super nice and polite to everyone, because I truly think what goes around comes around, and I only want good things.

posted September 24, 2013 11:47 AM            

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But i have been chasing him! To the point of almost looking like a fool and now im just feeling played. Im an aqua with sag moon, aries venus, mars cancer. I dont exactly give up so easy on people i like lol. I blame it on my aries venus! But when someone is consistently ignoring me, i take it they're not interested anymore and im just being annoying.
And i thought when a virgo guy withdraws you were supposed to leave him alone and not bug him??

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Ash20, you should really get over this guy.

Our personal planets being so alike, I can tell you he likes charming people, as it gives us an ego boost... His Moon probably makes him experience this differently from me, because I feel flattered but I don't really let the other person get far into it if I'm not 100% sure I'm interested. But that might also be my Mercury in Libra (all high morals and values )...

posted September 24, 2013 11:58 AM            

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Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Ash20, you should really get over this guy.

Our personal planets being so alike, I can tell you he likes charming people, as it gives us an ego boost... His Moon probably makes him experience this differently from me, because I feel flattered but I don't really let the other person get far into it if I'm not 100% sure I'm interested. But that might also be my Mercury in Libra (all high morals and values )...

Don't chase him... he might get a twisted kick out of it, and no woman should have to go through that. *hugs*

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posted September 24, 2013 01:08 PM            

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Lol "Our way or the highway"
Soo true. The virgo warned me that if i didnt do what he asked me (not anything big but something he knew i hated doing), he was going to start ignoring me again.

And if you only ignore to not get hurt, how am i supposed to get through to him i wouldnt do that. Should i keep trying to talk to him while he's ignoring? Or do i give him space until he comes back??

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OMG, was he born Sep 21, 1988?!? He sounds like a carbon copy of me... I always warn people when I'm getting annoyed/frustrated... I don't try to impose myself, but if someone keeps bugging me to do something I don't want to, I'll warn them and then ignore them if they don't stop. See, I think this is where I differ from your guy: my Moon is very much about freedom and independence, whilst his sounds like it's all about control and jealousy.

I'm sorry, dear, but you don't get to him. He won't listen to you, only what he perceives from your actions. I mean, you might send him a note saying, "I understand you need time to think things over, but I'm also getting annoyed and I won't wait forever. Let me know if you wanna talk and if you don't, that's life. -Ash" You might, and I mean capital MIGHT, get to him that he's hurting you this way (we're very good at reading between the lines) but that's not even a sure thing.

As a Virgo, I can tell you we have much inner turmoil to deal with and the people around us usually get the cold shoulder when we're dealing with our demons.

posted September 24, 2013 01:22 PM            

He has already told you the way he's always going to be - do things my way or you'll be sorry. That, to me, indicates a control freak. His Scorpio moon will incline him to be always suspicious of you and your actions. His Mars in Libra will incline him to be passive aggressive about his resentment and anger. Not a good combo, IMHO.

posted September 24, 2013 02:26 PM            

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OMG, was he born Sep 21, 1988?!? He sounds like a carbon copy of me... I always warn people when I'm getting annoyed/frustrated... I don't try to impose myself, but if someone keeps bugging me to do something I don't want to, I'll warn them and then ignore them if they don't stop. See, I think this is where I differ from your guy: my Moon is very much about freedom and independence, whilst his sounds like it's all about control and jealousy.

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posted September 24, 2013 02:41 PM            

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Ash, I'm not one of the astrology powerhouses on this forum,

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posted September 24, 2013 02:52 PM            

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He was born 1993. And most times he doesnt warn and goes straight into silent mode. Sometimes i think he is a narcissist lol.
Just wondering ... do you apologize to people when they tell you you've hurt them? Or does that make you feel they're being dramatic?

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It's hard for me to apologize to their face, but if they tell me I've hurt them, I'll say sorry and truly feel remorse. Depending on the way they approach me, I might think they're being dramatic, but I'd never outright disregard someone's hurt. If they don't say it to my face but I realised I've wronged someone, I'll approach them by my own iniciative... but I won't apologize. I'll act as if nothing's happened and later might say an off-handedly "sorry about that one time" and that's it.

Ash, I get the feeling that he's not probably going to give you what you need... as Virgos, we usually know where to strike to hurt the most, but we refrain from doing so because that implicates too much hurt, therefore, too much mess... but it sounds like he's getting a kick out of all this.

Let me tell you one of my not so proudest moments: I knew these two guys (a 5-year distance from when I met one to meeting the other) that I could totally get them to do things for me when I was angry. It was nothing more than "stay away from me", "shut up" and "leave me alone" and they'd just say "OK" and leave me to sulk. They never tried to get a word in and would just do what I wanted, and I got the feeling that if I said "grovel," they would. Luckily for us all, I've never been a fan of manipulation nor humiliation. I was very young and I always felt the temptation to make them do things for me, but something much nobler would take over and stop me... I'm not proud of it and still struggle with it up to this day.