posted September 30, 2013 12:05 AM            

Is there more emphasis when luminaries are involved (or other personal planets), and how much would you say a wide orb like 6 degrees would weaken a placement like that?

I have a few aspects like this (both "positive" and "negative" aspects), but I don't feel them much. However, none of those types of aspects involve personal planets or luminaries in my chart.

posted September 30, 2013 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
A square is still a square, 6 degree is not that wide. I’ve got plenty of “awkward” aspects in my chart, Scorpio placements in late degrees squaring Pisces placements in early degrees and I can definitely feel the tension produced by those squares.

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Weird. I really don't feel mine at all.
Are you a Scorpio Sun, anonymi, or do you just have a lot of Scorpio placements?

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Hmm...perhaps I don't feel my Mars/Uranus square of 6 degrees because my Mars is exalted in Capricorn?

Whereas I feel the 6 degree trine from my Sun to Saturn, but probably not as strongly as others would, as my Saturn is in detriment in Cancer?

I also don't feel my Pisces Jupiter conjunct Aries Venus much, but again perhaps that has to do with the fact that Venus is in detriment in Aries?

posted September 30, 2013 12:49 AM            

Both signs are strong in my chart, maybe I can feel those squares because of that reason.

posted September 30, 2013 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I’m a Pisces Sun with lot of Scorpio placements, what’s the degree of your Pisces Sun?

Both signs are strong in my chart, maybe I can feel those squares because of that reason?

Are the planets and signs involved in awkward aspects strong in your chart? it depends upon orbs as well, mine are pretty close.

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posted September 30, 2013 01:09 AM            

You should have been able to feel your Mars/Uranus, maybe you are using it positively, that's why you can't feel it. Most descriptions foucus on the negative effects of squares so when we use them positively we use them positively, we may not know.

posted September 30, 2013 01:15 AM            

Oppositions can be awkward by nature especially in synastry but squares are hot and action oriented being martian like.

posted September 30, 2013 01:19 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
I think it's because they don't involve personal planets. I've got three generational aspects, Saturn square Pluto, Neptune sextile Pluto and Uranus sextile Pluto. I can feel Saturn square Pluto probably because Saturn conjuncts my personal planets and both are in angular house. I can't feel Neptune and Uranus sextile Pluto probably because Neptune and Uranus don't form any major aspects with my personal planets. What houses do the planets forming "awkward" aspects occupy? I think aspects of planets occuping angular houses can be felt more.

You should have been able to feel your Mars/Uranus, maybe you are using it positively, that's why you can't feel it. Most descriptions foucus on the negative effects of squares so when we use them positively we use them positively, we may not know.

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Sorry, I have to quote in order to be able to look at what you typed.

Yeah, that's odd...I definitely feel my Saturn square Pluto, for sure. Neither are personal planets or conjunct luminaries (or anything other than asteroids, for that matter). But Pluto is heavily aspected, with five aspects total.

posted September 30, 2013 01:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
conjunctions are solar, I think?
trines are jovial
Sextiles are Venusian
Squares are Martian
Oppositions are saturnian

Oppositions can be awkward by nature especially in synastry but squares are hot and action oriented being martian like.

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Ugh. I wish my Sun/Moon/Neptune T-square would p*ss off. That's an interesting take on it, though.

posted September 30, 2013 02:41 AM            

Well I have a very tight out-of-sign trine that I REALLY feel. Venus at 29 Sagittarius trines Saturn at 00 Virgo. I definitely think that it's the angle/amount of degrees that makes an aspect function, and have power of influence.

Funnily enough, my trine does feel a little harder then the average trine, as in I'm a little intense in terms of my Venus/Saturn traits. It's a benefit to me that I'm self-controlled, but sometimes I find Saturn's influence too inhibiting socially.

I think out-of-sign trines and sextiles might be a little harder then average, while out-of-sign squares and oppositions might be a little softer then average.

I have a second super-tight out-of-sign aspect involving Venus at 29 degrees opposite Jupiter at 00 Cancer (Making a super-tight sextile with Saturn). I feel the tension here too. This aspect makes me easy-going and cheerful, but it also causes me to refuse to have a relationship that compromises my principles. However, attraction and a person matching with your objective standards dosen't always happen together. Although, I still haven't given up hope that I'll eventually find both in the same person.