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Belage
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posted October 04, 2013 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Weak Saturn placement.

Heavy negative Neptunian placements.

Saturn square Sun to a lesser extent.

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meissieri
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posted October 04, 2013 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking maybe having a Grand Cross in your chart? It'd feel like whatever you do, there's something holding you back, making it really hard to overcome your problems. Some people may just give up because of it.

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Originally posted by Blackbird:
I often have the opposite problem. I *do* learn from experience, but I only remember the negative parts, and I completely avoid repeating the experience for a long time. For example: Rejections and failures while dating and trying to build relationships cause me to despair about dating or relationships in the future.

12th house cusp in Capricorn.

In the past few months, I feel like I've made some progress in dealing with those experiences and feelings, so rejection or failure doesn't feel like a crushing defeat. It's still disappointing and it often hurts, but I can get over it.

And since SE mentioned it -- I have Jupiter in Sagittarius.


I relate to this, too. Lots of Virgo and Cap in my chart. Makes you really worry about everything, overanalyse it, etc. I know the feeling. Hold on, okay?

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posted October 04, 2013 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
My sister is a serious example for this.
She has stellium in the first house: saturn, neptune and uranus.

Neptune makes her become delusional, and saturn forces her to learn a lot of hard lessons while uranus makes her erratic


I was going to say something similar - it doesn't always have to be stubbornness that leads to not learning. I have Neptune conjunct ASC in 1st and it puts rose-colored glasses on EVERY time, so you keep giving chances to brand new people who demonstrate old patterns you've come across before and should have learned from, but you go through it all again, it's deceptive, and I do have a grand cross as well

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Ami Anne
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posted October 04, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
Weak Saturn placement.

Heavy negative Neptunian placements.

Saturn square Sun to a lesser extent.



Great answer, Belage. Why saturn sq Sun?

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posted October 04, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belage

Why, in words, would a weak Saturn do this, in your opinion?

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Queen Salome
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posted October 05, 2013 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-South Node conjunct Moon in Taurus in 4th
-Saturn square Pluto
-Moon square Uranus
This are only some, but probably among the worst aspects. A person I know has all this, and she simply refuses to learn, grow up and change her behavior.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 05, 2013 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Queen Salome:
-South Node conjunct Moon in Taurus in 4th
-Saturn square Pluto
-Moon square Uranus
This are only some, but probably among the worst aspects. A person I know has all this, and she simply refuses to learn, grow up and change her behavior.


Interesting Queen! SN conj Moon. That makes sense and in the 4th, too.

Why do you put Moon sq Uranus here? Thanks for your post, too.

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elixir
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posted October 05, 2013 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elixir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say taurus definitely learns from experience.

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Queen Salome
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posted October 05, 2013 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Queen Salome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sq Uranus makes change and transformation emotional hard for people. This certainly applies to the person I know. It is so hard for her to change her behavior, even if she realizes that old patterns of behavior lead straight into disaster.
Here is a description I found: http://depthastrology2.com/MoonUranus.html#MoonSquareUranus

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posted October 05, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Queen

Great insight!

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Leocassandra
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posted October 05, 2013 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leocassandra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say:
heavy mutable people- changes, changes they don't even noticed if they made this mistake before or not.
Mercury square Neptune. (Mercury Psyche, Neptune Fog)
Mars afflicted by Neptune.
I agree with weak Saturn

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