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orocairion
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posted October 03, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone sent me this history and I wanted to share it

(had to translate it from spanish, so it might be a bit sloppy and with a few typos)

"The first time Ullay saw Marina she was naked in public drawing a communist symbol on her belly with a blade. It was 1976, in Amsterdam. It was more than love at first sight. She was a serb and he was a german. Both were born on November 30th of different years. They dedicated themselves to do crazy and fringe performances. Both were interested in humans.

Intimately committed with the symbolic, when the end of their relationship aproached they did a last performance titled "The Lovers": Marina and Ullay started to walk on separate ends of the Great Wall of China and after a long walk, they hugged and stopped seeing each other for 23 years.

Many years later, she was doing a performance in the MoMA called "The Artist is present", where she had to stare anyone who sat infront of her for a minute, in silence. Following the inalterable symbols, they demonstrated how love, when it's real, can't be hidden nor destroyed by time. Please, watch this video that show how stares with love are eternal over the course of the years.

The emotional link between two people transcend ideolgies, religions, philosophies, geography. Space and time. It's infinite. Because love is the most powerful force in the universe and because love can conquer all.

This, dear friends, it's what happened when Ullay sat infront of her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS0Tg0IjCp4
"

Not sure if it's real or one of their "performances" but what are your thoughts on it, what aspects and planets could be at work here, etc.

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fireopal09
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posted October 03, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fireopal09     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow.

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Claire
"When going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
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orocairion
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posted October 03, 2013 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh well, I'll start.

As it has been mentioned in few other threads, maybe Saturn/Nodes or Saturn/Mars bringing them back together after 23 years?.

Could it make that happen?.

What aspects causes undying love between two people?

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Newrise
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posted October 03, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Newrise     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I have Mars opposite Saturn aspect in synastry.

Hmm .. Do you have more details on their story?

And what is their overall synastry like?

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orocairion
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posted October 03, 2013 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Newrise:
Wow, I have Mars opposite Saturn aspect in synastry.

Hmm .. Do you have more details on their story?

And what is their overall synastry like?


I mention it because Ceridwen's parents have a Mars-Saturn conjunction DW and they have been married for quite a long time, if I recall correctly

I don't have his birthtime but here is the synastry.

There is a Saturn-Nodes conjunction from what I can tell.

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Orange
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posted October 04, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another Saturn - Node aspect and the undying love

I made a thread about this aspect, its on the 2 nd page now

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charlie
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posted October 04, 2013 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
Another Saturn - Node aspect and the undying love

I made a thread about this aspect, its on the 2 nd page now


I read your thread and also some other sites where they say it's a bad aspect to have but I side with you and think, feel actually, that it's a VERY bonding aspect.

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Orange
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posted October 04, 2013 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I read your thread and also some other sites where they say it's a bad aspect to have but I side with you and think, feel actually, that it's a VERY bonding aspect.

Thanks, Charlie.
I've seen this aspect way too frequently in the synastry of lovers addicted to each other, its hard to ignore the facts.

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posted October 04, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful! Brought me to tears, thank you for sharing.

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orocairion
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posted October 04, 2013 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for orocairion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Another Saturn - Node aspect and the undying love

I made a thread about this aspect, its on the 2 nd page now


Indeed, also some really tight conjunctions over all including the angles.

Would a NN-Saturn opposition have a similar effect?

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unforgiven_soul
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posted October 05, 2013 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This short video made me burst into tears... It's the sweetest and weirdest feeling you can get from it... Totally touched me!

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posted October 05, 2013 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WarriorPrincess7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This made me tear up so bad :'( , its beautiful...

I found a little 20 minute documentary on Ulay and Marina, they are together here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJA859mXMLg

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Odette
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posted October 05, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just me being biased and all lol
But I love the fact that he has Venus/Mercury and Jupiter conjunct in Scorpio.. and she has a Capricorn Moon... because I have a Cap Moon and the men I've been closest to have Scorpio Venus (often Mercury as well).. and Pluto (in our generation!).

I really like the Capricorn-Scorpio relationship.. whether it's Sun signs or other planets.

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unforgiven_soul
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posted October 06, 2013 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for unforgiven_soul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
This is just me being biased and all lol
But I love the fact that he has Venus/Mercury and Jupiter conjunct in Scorpio.. and she has a Capricorn Moon... because I have a Cap Moon and the men I've been closest to have Scorpio Venus (often Mercury as well).. and Pluto (in our generation!).

I really like the Capricorn-Scorpio relationship.. whether it's Sun signs or other planets.


Odette I'm a Capricorn with Scorpio Moon and I love the Capricorn Moons. Always a deep and erotic connection! We communicate with the eyes, we don't even have to talk...

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DialecticLady
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posted October 06, 2013 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Amazing* Thanks for sharing!

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DialecticLady
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posted October 06, 2013 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DialecticLady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
Another Saturn - Node aspect and the undying love

I made a thread about this aspect, its on the 2 nd page now


Do you think parallel count as a conjunction? a exact parallel:

NN: 20°53'N
Saturn:20°55'N

I think the answer to the thread question pass by saturn's link too.

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