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Topic: Natal Chart of Jesus?
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somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 06:50 PM
  
^I'm glad I'm not the only one super opposed to Libra. Anything Libra is utterly wrong!IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 06:59 PM
I can see how he can be Pisces, but the Capricornus thing just doesn't seem right to me.------------------
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Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 03, 2013 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Nine:
Jesus suffered a lot. Libra would run away from any kind of hardship. I'm sure Libra would've made a compromise along the way. The Venus in Libra is big on comfort; being whipped, and nailed to a cross is far from comfortable. So Libra is out.
Just because Libra wouldn't want to get whipped and nailed to a cross, doesn't rule out the possibility of Libra. Who would want to have those things done to them? Jesus did it for the people, not because he wanted to, but because he believed what he believed is right. (Pisces/Virgo) [/B][/QUOTE]
"Libra is balance/equinox. Libra evens the score, *** -for-tat, the underdog. Libra is the opposition, they fight for the dark side".
While yes, Libra does that, but he was not fully Libra. I think he had Ascendant, Mercury and maybe Venus there.
Jesus also doesn't hate anyone, not even evil people, he forgives everyone. Libra is fairness, and that is what he exuded as well. He believed everyone is equal.
Jesus was very easy to approach for the people when they needed his help (Libra/Virgo)
It even makes more sense if he was a Libra Ascendant because he can have a Virgo Sun in the 12th House as well. (More of a Pisces influence of suffering and sacrificing) IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 03, 2013 07:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
Jesus suffered a lot. Libra would run away from any kind of hardship. I'm sure Libra would've made a compromise along the way. The Venus in Libra is big on comfort; being whipped, and nailed to a cross is far from comfortable. So Libra is out.Besides, in the cycle of the Sun/God, it is at the Libra equinox that the Devil/Set defeats the Sun/God and the World/Northern Hemisphere is plunged into darkness. Libra is balance/equinox. Libra evens the score, *** -for-tat, the underdog. Libra is the opposition, they fight for the dark side. Whatever is, Libra isn't. This to maintain a certain harmonic balance. And those tattered clothes??
Not twelfth house Libra. It's different than other Libras and it is very much how Jesus is. I have twelfth house Libra planets and Libra ascendant and I went to church a lot as a kid, was raised with Christian values and they are very Libran. Jesus even supported marriage, was very keen on the concept. Libra isn't all about running away, ease and comfort. Saturn is exalted here. Libra can be long suffering if they think it is for the ultimate benefit of society. Libra is the most misunderstood sign imo.
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Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:20 PM
Maybe he had more emphasis on Virgo-Pisces?------------------
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somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 07:21 PM
What *I* don't understand is why Mercurian Intellect and SSS are pushing so hard for Jesus to have Libra?  You two seem awfully biased because of your Libra signs and you are both Virgos to boot. Jesus seemed nothing like either of you and you're trying to say he's a Virgo with Libra like yourselves...?  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 03, 2013 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Maybe he had more emphasis on Virgo-Pisces?
Maybe but I still detect a Libra influence. I believe he was Virgo because he did do a lot of preaching or lecturing. I picture him being like Dr Phil only more religious. I can see his speaking style being like Dr Phil and he's a Virgo.People imagine Jesus being two dimensional without passion but I believe he was very outspoken and full of fire like Dr Phil. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 03, 2013 07:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
What *I* don't understand is why Mercurian Intellect and SSS are pushing so hard for Jesus to be a Libra? You two seem awfully biased because of your Libra signs and you are both Virgos to boot. Jesus seemed nothing like either of you and you're trying to say he's a Virgo with Libra like yourselves...?
I'm not being biased at all. He definitely seems Libran.
Did "I" mention "me" anywhere about how I said Jesus is Libra like? No. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted October 03, 2013 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
What *I* don't understand is why Mercurian Intellect and SSS are pushing so hard for Jesus to have Libra? You two seem awfully biased because of your Libra signs and you are both Virgos to boot. Jesus seemed nothing like either of you and you're trying to say he's a Virgo with Libra like yourselves...?
I have always had the Jesus-like desire to give to others. I am not exactly like him but I really do love some of the Christian ideals and think people should treat each other with kindness. I don't buy into everything the Bible says but there are some things about Christianity I like. Christians are very social, kind hearted people. I disagree with the rigid, fundamental, quality some Christians possess but I like idea of giving to the less fortunate, turning the other cheek, helping out, trying to fellowship with others. I do not like dogma or trying to covert people to any church, Christian or otherwise so I do not agree entirely. No one knows how much of it is Jesus and how much is his followers. Maybe Jesus was very tolerant and broad minded, much so than other Rabbis, and his followers added their own ideas to the Bible so his message is twisted? IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:26 PM
Maybe a Solar Virgo with Libra inners?
And where were the outers at the time?------------------
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somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 07:36 PM
@Mercurian Intellect; lol shut up quote:
SSS: and his followers added their own ideas to the Bible so his message is twisted?
Oh yah the Bible's wack! I don't know where to find it but there was this infograph linking direct contradictions across the Bible and lemme tell you, there was A LOT!!  I would read the Bible but not to follow it, rather to interpret it. Have you ever read it? Indeed the New Testament is a chronicle of Jesus and what not but it wasn't written by him. His followers wrote it and at the time, society was run entirely different than it was now. Women = property back then, so u kno it's wrong. I hardly believe Jesus would have thought of women as property. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:37 PM
Who has? Like you said, it's too contradictory, and that makes it kind of hard to follow.------------------
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 03, 2013 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Maybe a Solar Virgo with Libra inners?
And where were the outers at the time?
Back then, they weren't counting the outers :s
Jesus could have a Mercury Libra and a Leo Venus  Mars in Sagittarius would indicate heavy involvement in religious activity. He could have been a rabbi at one point. He was reported to be a stone cutter which sounds like something Virgo or Libra could do. He had a soft spot for children which is typical of Venus in Leo which is also a compassionate placement hence Mother Teresa who has the same placement. She had a desire to take care of the less fortunate and alleviate their pain. Jesus had the same inclinations. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:42 PM
Maybe they didn't but I am. I read somewhere Aphrodite in Virgo along with Pallas(2) can create art with natural mediums, and I think some Sagittarius placements can indicate prophecy.------------------
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
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posted October 03, 2013 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Oh yah the Bible's wack! I don't know where to find it but there was this infograph linking direct contradictions across the Bible and lemme tell you, there was A LOT!! I would read the Bible but not to follow it, rather to interpret it. Have you ever read it? Indeed the New Testament is a chronicle of Jesus and what not but it wasn't written by him. His followers wrote it and at the time, society was run entirely different than it was now. Women = property back then, so u kno it's wrong. I hardly believe Jesus would have thought of women as property.
I was raised in a Christian environment, went to church regularly, so I was exposed to the New Testament then. I did not go out of my way to study or read. Being raised that way I absorbed basic Christian ethos like kindness and charity. Nowadays I prefer to focus on the practices that will bring people joy while rejecting what causes them pain which is why I do not follow the religion completely and I do not believe it is the best and only religion. I like certain Christian ideals like charity and kindness especially. Christians were really the first socialists.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 03, 2013 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Maybe they didn't but I am. I read somewhere Aphrodite in Virgo along with Pallas(2) can create art with natural mediums, and I think some Sagittarius placements can indicate prophecy.
I agree. I wonder what Jupiter is doing in Jesus's chart? And Saturn? Who knows, there could be a gulf between Jesus and his followers since he was killed so young. His original message might only be partially delivered. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 03, 2013 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
[b]Maybe a Solar Virgo with Libra inners?
And where were the outers at the time?
Back then, they weren't counting the outers :s
Jesus could have a Mercury Libra and a Leo Venus Mars in Sagittarius would indicate heavy involvement in religious activity. He could have been a rabbi at one point. He was reported to be a stone cutter which sounds like something Virgo or Libra could do. He had a soft spot for children which is typical of Venus in Leo which is also a compassionate placement hence Mother Teresa who has the same placement. She had a desire to take care of the less fortunate and alleviate their pain. Jesus had the same inclinations. [/B][/QUOTE] Maybe Venus in Leo trine Jupiter in Sagittarius.
Or Venus in Libra sextile Jupiter in Sagittarius.
Also Jupiter in Sagittarius conjunct Neptune in Sagittarius.
Libra Ascendant sextile Jupiter and Neptune in Sagittarius. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 07:49 PM
If I were to diagnose him as a Virgo, I'd say Virgo Sun/Mercury with Leo Venus, Moon/Jupiter in Pisces, Mars in Sagittarius. Jupiter has to be Pisces as it's an elevated form compared to Sagittarius. AC in Pisces putting his Virgo planets into H6!!IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:51 PM
According to Astrotheme, Ouranos is in Pisces, 2H, a psychic placement
Poseidonas is in Scorpius, 10H, another psychic placement
and Hades is in Virgo, 8H, kind of psychic.------------------
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somethingexcellent
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posted October 03, 2013 07:52 PM
Did you see the chart on page 1? That's where the outer planets were at that time!! Repost:  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 03, 2013 07:53 PM
I believe he could have Venus in Libra. Venus in Libras are very good socializers and they are very Christian like in their approach. They try to be wise, keep the peace. Hey, Jesus is called the Prince Of Peace and Libra is the sign associated with peace! IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 03, 2013 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
According to Astrotheme, Ouranos is in Pisces, 2H, a psychic placement
Poseidonas is in Scorpius, 10H, another psychic placement
and Hades is in Virgo, 8H, kind of psychic.
Well yeah, that is technically when the actual person Jesus Christ was born, so it only makes sense If that is wrong, I was simply making speculation
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Sailor Gemini
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posted October 03, 2013 07:54 PM
Looks like the houses are off a bit.------------------
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Mercurian Intellect
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posted October 03, 2013 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I believe he could have Venus in Libra. Venus in Libras are very good socializers and they are very Christian like in their approach. They try to be wise, keep the peace. Hey, Jesus is called the Prince Of Peace and Libra is the sign associated with peace!
I can't argue with that 
Not that I was disagreeing with Venus in Libra anyway, lol
Gandhi has Libra Sun and Ascendant, he was for peace as well. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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From: Sumeria
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posted October 03, 2013 08:11 PM
Someone please enlighten me on why Jesus would be a Virgo? Imo, he would be purely Pisces, Capricorn & Sagittarius P;s; Aquarius IP: Logged |
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