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Topic: Saturn in 4th house
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NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 251
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 05:14 PM
  
Is it true that people with saturn in the 4th never feel like they are at peace with themselves? I've heard that they want to move away to live abroad but cannot for some reason (which is true, i dislike my home town) It feels like i cannot find security with people or myself, so i'm left feeling anxious and sometimes empty, nowhere to call my true home. My mother was also quite "robotic" in the approach to parenting me, meaning she just wanted to focus on the tasks of raising me, instead of giving me real and authentic encouragement and love. Although i know she loves me deep down, showing it was somehow blocked in my childhood. Eugh this is a sucky place for saturn. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5705
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 14, 2013 05:29 PM
Saturn rules my IC it's in Capricorn. It does make for a cold, austere, environment. Nurturing could be in short supply with tasks aplenty. There could be sorrow connected to the upbringing and much responsibility could be placed on your shoulders at a young age. You might have a constant feeling of being overburdened.IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon
Knowflake Posts: 1177
From: Nyc
Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 14, 2013 10:39 PM
I have saturn, pluto, and jupiter in my 4th house. I feel the same way about my mom. I dont want to move away from my family though. We spend time together and cook. I would miss that.------------------
Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
Gemini mercury 11th IP: Logged |
ash20
Knowflake Posts: 164
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Registered: Mar 2013
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posted October 15, 2013 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by NeptunianSag:
Is it true that people with saturn in the 4th never feel like they are at peace with themselves? I've heard that they want to move away to live abroad but cannot for some reason (which is true, i dislike my home town) It feels like i cannot find security with people or myself, so i'm left feeling anxious and sometimes empty, nowhere to call my true home. My mother was also quite "robotic" in the approach to parenting me, meaning she just wanted to focus on the tasks of raising me, instead of giving me real and authentic encouragement and love. Although i know she loves me deep down, showing it was somehow blocked in my childhood. Eugh this is a sucky place for saturn.
I have this placement (conjunct sun) and i have never felt at peace with myself. I have dealt with self loathing all my life. I didn't fit in with kids at school or my family members bc they were all the popular types , super outgoing. I've always felt like a black sheep.
I was very mature at a young age. Always the one worrying something would go wrong, and trying not to get in trouble. I used to wish i could just be more carefree like my friends. I wasn't the one people wanted to party with, just the person who always listened to their problems or the shoulder to lean.
My mom wasn't robotic though, she was affectionate but at the same time she made me feel like i was clingy and sometimes she made it known (in a passive aggressive kinda way) that her children were a burden on her. Bc she liked going out and dating, having a man was her priority. Maybe my saturn in aquarius explains that.
I have always wanted to move away from home, like out of state but im also afraid to be away from the people i know IP: Logged |
hodad
Knowflake Posts: 143
From: tiburon ca usa
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 20, 2013 09:32 PM
It's true.Saturn in the 4th does not usually make for a happy carefree childhood.IP: Logged |
Violets
Knowflake Posts: 1121
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Registered: Apr 2011
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posted November 20, 2013 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by ash20:
I have this placement and i have never felt at peace with myself. I have dealt with self loathing all my life. I didn't fit in with kids at school or my family members bc they were all the popular types , super outgoing. I've always felt like a black sheep.
I was very mature at a young age. Always the one worrying something would go wrong, and trying not to get in trouble. I used to wish i could just be more carefree like my friends. I wasn't the one people wanted to party with, just the person who always listened to their problems or the shoulder to lean.
My mom wasn't robotic though, she was affectionate but at the same time she made me feel like i was clingy and sometimes she made it known (in a passive aggressive kinda way)
My son has this placement, and this seems to really describe him. His Saturn is in Libra, with Taurus Sun, Cancer AC, and 29 degree Libra Moon. I started posting on this forum when I read the description of his Saturn (which also squares his AC), and I was completely freaked out. We're really affectionate, encouraging parents so I don't really get it. A trustworthy psychic told me that he seems to be trying to resolve some past life issues, and although our relationship would be tumultuous it wouldn't be horrible, and I would be with him through thick and thin. That made me feel a little better. Sorry to chime in from the mom's perspective on a placement that's so sensitive to so many, but I've always wondered what the best case scenario would be for this placement.  I've noticed that my son, from day one seemed naturally self-conscious, despite our encouragement. He tends to want to cling to me rather than engage with other kids sometimes, and I have to try really hard to avoid hovering over him all the time. *sigh* It's a really sensitive topic for me, too. <Edit>
I'll add here that we're not the "popular types". Well, my husband sort of is, but I'm stuck with good old Saturn in 11th, so I've always felt like the odd one in groups. We don't pressure him to do things he's not comfortable with, and although I'm a bit overprotective I just don't get it. But I admit that I feel like I have to steal time for myself (like most parents), and that seems to affect him more than most kids his age. It's a hard place to be in from both sides, I think. Or not, depending on the situation. It's mildly baffling to me because I know so many people who have had absolutely horrific childhoods--foster homes, physical abuse, etc. and NONE of them have Saturn in 4th. WTF? IP: Logged |
Rosalind
Knowflake Posts: 2134
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Registered: Mar 2011
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posted November 21, 2013 04:47 AM
Saturn in 4th house natal means 2 things: hard childhood and family karma. The native will never feel at peace in his family enviroment. I kinda have this aspect ( I have Aqua IC with traditional ruler Saturn in 1st house and I pray every second of my life to get out)IP: Logged |
nove731
Knowflake Posts: 187
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 21, 2013 08:03 AM
I hate having this placement as well.My mother isn't robotic in the slightest. Exactly the opposite, in fact. She's carefree, whimsical, and follows her heart...which means that nothing practical or realistic ever gets done. Since these things have to be attended to by SOMEONE, this has usually fallen on me. My mother was never willing to sacrifice her whims or desires to raise a child. We have a really screwed up dynamic where, in truth, I'm more the adult/parent than she is. My relationship with my mother has more or less amounted to dealing with a burden. To add insult to injury, I have Capricorn on the 5th (my Saturn is in Capricorn), and this seems to act as a bridge between my 4th and 5th Houses...Not only do I deal with parental burdens and insecurities, but it totally inhibits me from having any fun in life! I would rather have my Saturn just about ANYWHERE else. ------------------
Sun -> Aries
Moon -> Sagittarius
Ascendant -> Virgo IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 398
From: The Strand
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 21, 2013 07:51 PM
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Xerxes
Knowflake Posts: 64
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Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 22, 2013 10:47 PM
My Saturn is in the 4th House, and as if this wasn't enough of a surefire sign of an austere upbringing, Capricorn rules my 4th House, too.I grew up in wealthy, elitist suburbia, where it was made clear early on that my siblings and I were to adhere to high society manners, as the rest of our family did so impeccably - always prim, proper and perfect. That sounds idyllic, but it's anything but what a child wants to be. My brother and I both have Saturn in the 4th, which left the two us feeling as though we were never allowed to be kids by virtue of our family's socioeconomic status. Everything that could be regimented was—be it breakfast time, chauffeur rides to school, when to sit, when to stand, when to smile, when to look and when to not. Homework was ALWAYS to be completed as soon as we arrived home from school. We were allowed 30 minutes at most to watch television. My parents divorced when I was 6, after which my mother became the primary disciplinarian and my father became a very absent figure in our lives. For all that was invested into "keeping up appearances", true affection was unquestionably lacking in our upbringing. This makes for a very lonely childhood where one learns to live inside himself; but by the same token, it makes for an incomparably "sturdy" foundation from which to stand tall in the world once one reaches adulthood. On the downside, however, it makes one very inept to "personal relationships" and "letting people in". Add in abandonment/rejection issues that were a result of dad's leaving, and it made for no fairytale. Madonna once said something in an interview that resonated entirely with how I was left feeling: "You grow up afraid to love things because they're gonna leave you." IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
Knowflake Posts: 4097
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Registered: Aug 2012
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posted November 23, 2013 12:53 AM
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"You grow up afraid to love things because they're gonna leave you."
I've got Saturn in 4th as well, that quote pretty much sums it up. IP: Logged | |
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