posted October 15, 2013 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Chiron is like Saturn and Jupiter's baby!! If you wanna think of Chiron's nature, think of Sagittarius in a wheelchair!

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posted October 15, 2013 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Ya you got the general idea. Chiron isn't naturally karmic though, make no mistake.

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posted October 15, 2013 06:28 PM            

In the draconic chart I have a Capricorn Sun, would that contribute?

posted October 15, 2013 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Btw,

In the draconic chart I have a Capricorn Sun, would that contribute?

I'm not sure how strong draco-placements can influence someone though, but I sure can feel synastry aspects involving the dracos so maybe it does count? =)

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posted October 15, 2013 06:35 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
No, Chiron isn't naturally karmic. Chiron is your self-issues and how you work off these self-issues to help others with their self-issues. The creation or lack there of of good or bad karma is a byproduct, not Chiron's actual domain.

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posted October 15, 2013 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Hi Lotis White

Sure, I'll post my chart.

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Hi LCS,

Just some observations about your chart.

Yeah, you have a wide variety of aspects in your chart that are strong, so that Saturn is just one player in the game and it shouldn't be an overwhelming influence most of the time (Unless something transits your Saturn).

Your Sun/Moon sextile and Saturn/Jupiter trine, especially make you a very even and balanced person. Your emotions and will (Sun/Moon) co-operate well with each other, and you’re comfortable with who you are. And, you're a level-headed person (Saturn/Jupiter) who can be both realistic and optimistic in your perspective. You tend not to swing wildly from doom to euphoria. What you said about holding yourself to high morel standards sounds like a combo of your Saturn/Jupiter trine and your Saturn opp Sun at work.

The Saturn opp Sun can make you self-critical, and give you a good sense of responsibility. You’re careful, self-aware, and firm. But with Mars/Sun and Jupiter/Sun, you probably also have a healthy sense of resilience, energy, positivity, and enthusiasm for life. You’re warm and personable, and well as firm.

Your Moon/Mars conjunction indicates that you can get emotionally worked up about things sometimes. Your feelings can be intense, and you might have some of that Cancerian style snappiness or moodiness from time to time… You can get emotionally ‘hot’. But with Saturn and Jupiter both making soft aspects to this conjunction, your sense of self-control and reasonableness, and well as your good natured, cheerful side, help to mitigate the impact of your more extreme emotions.

Apart from your Sun/Moon/Mars/Jupiter/Saturn aspect circuit, you also have a Mercury/Venus/Neptune/Uranus/Pluto aspect circuit. Mercury trines your Uranus/Neptune conjunction, and sextiles your Pluto. Even with Mercury in Virgo, it’s likely that you have an interesting and creative mind that often is attracted to extraordinary, unusual subject matter. Your attitude towards these things would be analytical and investigative.

posted October 15, 2013 06:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Idk, maybe, if you feel it.
I don't really feel my Draconic placements except my Aquarius Sun and Pisces Venus, so I guess it will have to depend on you.
It's supposed to be the "soul chart", so maybe you can be Saturnian on a deeper level?

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You know, I just realized that I tend to feel the placements of my draco chart only if they touch my natal somehow, because the natal is the here and now, the physical earthly manifestion.
So if my draco planets are touching a planet in my natal, it has an outlet for that particular energy to be expressed.

My Draco Sun in Cappy conjuncts my natal Neptune exact and Uranus tightly, no wonder I can feel it

Same goes for my Draco Moon/Mars in Scorpio conjunct my natal Pluto. ~ This one makes soo much sense to me!

Draco Venus in Pisces conjuncts natal Saturn & opposes Sun ~ Again, that explains a lot about my attitude towards love & relationships!

posted October 15, 2013 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
You know, I just realized that I tend to feel the placements of my draco chart only if they touch my natal somehow, because the natal is the here and now, the physical earthly manifestion.
So if my draco planets are touching a planet in my natal, it has an outlet for that particular energy to be expressed.

My Draco Sun in Cappy conjuncts my natal Neptune exact and Uranus tightly, no wonder I can feel it

Same goes for my Draco Moon/Mars in Scorpio conjunct my natal Pluto. ~ This one makes soo much sense to me!

Draco Venus in Pisces conjuncts natal Saturn & opposes Sun ~ Again, that explains a lot about my attitude towards love & relationships!

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posted October 15, 2013 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi LCS,

Just some observations about your chart.

Yeah, you have a wide variety of aspects in your chart that are strong, so that Saturn is just one player in the game and it shouldn't be an overwhelming influence most of the time (Unless something transits your Saturn).

Your Sun/Moon sextile and Saturn/Jupiter trine, especially make you a very even and balanced person. Your emotions and will (Sun/Moon) co-operate well with each other, and you’re comfortable with who you are. And, you're a level-headed person (Saturn/Jupiter) who can be both realistic and optimistic in your perspective. You tend not to swing wildly from doom to euphoria. What you said about holding yourself to high morel standards sounds like a combo of your Saturn/Jupiter trine and your Saturn opp Sun at work.

The Saturn opp Sun can make you self-critical, and give you a good sense of responsibility. You’re careful, self-aware, and firm. But with Mars/Sun and Jupiter/Sun, you probably also have a healthy sense of resilience, energy, positivity, and enthusiasm for life. You’re warm and personable, and well as firm.

Your Moon/Mars conjunction indicates that you can get emotionally worked up about things sometimes. Your feelings can be intense, and you might have some of that Cancerian style snappiness or moodiness from time to time… You can get emotionally ‘hot’. But with Saturn and Jupiter both making soft aspects to this conjunction, your sense of self-control and reasonableness, and well as your good natured, cheerful side, help to mitigate the impact of your more extreme emotions.

Apart from your Sun/Moon/Mars/Jupiter/Saturn aspect circuit, you also have a Mercury/Venus/Neptune/Uranus/Pluto aspect circuit. Mercury trines your Uranus/Neptune conjunction, and sextiles your Pluto. Even with Mercury in Virgo, it’s likely that you have an interesting and creative mind that often is attracted to extraordinary, unusual subject matter. Your attitude towards these things would be analytical and investigative.

Your Venus in Libra is sits near the mid-point of Pluto and Mercury, and is square the Uranus/Neptune conjunction. The Venus square Uranus/Neptune is likely where you get the feeling of being a ‘non-conformist/rebel against your cultural upbringing, that like to do things your own way’.

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Wow Lotis White, you hit the nail right on the head with all that you said!
Fits me to the T

posted October 15, 2013 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Chiron is like Saturn and Jupiter's baby!! If you wanna think of Chiron's nature, think of Sagittarius in a wheelchair!

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Yeah, Chiron is strong in my chart and I can see how this image fits! Using pain as inspiration to make things better or educate.

posted October 15, 2013 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Saturn is just one player in the game and it shouldn't be an overwhelming influence most of the time (Unless something transits your Saturn).

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Yes, lately I have been feeling the effects of Tr. Saturn (and Tr. Uranus/Pluto) a lot.
They're all aspecting the cluster of planets I have from 8° to 9°.
Its been a very intense time period for me.

posted October 15, 2013 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
So it's the same thing to kinda have an Aquarius Sun since my Virgo Sun trines Uranus by 3 degrees?

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posted October 15, 2013 07:26 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Sort of but the trine is weaker than the opposition so the influence could be more subtle. The opposition and the conjunction are the two strongest ones.

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posted October 16, 2013 03:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Lavender CrystalSwan:
Wow Lotis White, you hit the nail right on the head with all that you said!
Fits me to the T

So much to grasp lol, I probably have to re-read again to understand it better.
Thank you so much for your insight and interpretations! I really appreciate it

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