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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:22 AM
  
From thinking about my personal self and all my mates over the past few days with my Mercury - Pluto conjunction i've come to the conclusion the Draconic chart is the true you, that you have come into this life with the knowledge of, the natal chart is simply how you adapted to reality in this life as you come out of the womb, the Draconic shows the truth behind your node&/soul eternal progression What do you think? (from studying the true psychology & soul of myself and my mates i can say everyone relates more to the Draconic) "imo" 100%  ------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:25 AM
This shows that the point our real conciousness/soul enters the body at the point when the ecliptic nodes cross & not when we come out of the womb. Which makes complete solid sense because we have a conciousness while we are still inside - which configures that the natal chart is purely an adaptation to this reality or used as a method to hide the truth of astrology and the reality of our conciousness etc------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:33 AM
Or that the Draconic is the inner self, soul & head - The natal chart is the outer physical sphere of the self - lots of different ways to look at it depending on your perception of life
To me the inner is more important than the outer ?
The Draconic is also the most ancient and wisest of all astrological portraits------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:40 AM
From looking at a few professional opinions on write ups, videos, the Draconic is the Higher Self and the Natal is the lower/med self------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:55 AM
I always wondered why my head is so massive and i have such a little kid in me and have to lead everything i do, relating everything to myself and i like mates who i can butt heads with (1st Aries stellium)  ------------------
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DialecticLady
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posted October 16, 2013 11:57 AM
Are you talking alone? Can I come in please? I've not studied the draconic very much BUT I had and a-ha! moment when I saw my mercury in cancer in the draconic (natal is in virgo), it explained many things about my way of thinking...wow! I thought that what I felt was
due to my mercury follow in 8th house but no, when I read the mercury in cancer description it fit a lot that I was astonished. So please talk more about this please, I very much appreciated what you said  IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 11:59 AM
I'm trying to figure out if the Draconic is the higher self/soul/inner then what does the Natal (point when you come out of the womb) signify? The adaption to this reality or the outer layer of the self?------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by DialecticLady:
Are you talking alone? Can I come in please? I've not studied the draconic very much BUT I had and a-ha! moment when I saw my mercury in cancer in the draconic (natal is in virgo), it explained many things about my way of thinking...wow! I thought that what I felt was
due to my mercury follow in 8th house but no, when I read the mercury in cancer description it fit a lot that I was astonished. So please talk more about this please, I very much appreciated what you said
I think i just said pretty much all i've been able to figure out, i think when you start moving towards the self of the draconic chart you either start connecting more towards your higher self or progressing into your "node", but the information on it is impossible to find ! It has alot of connection with the head - the Vedic name of the Node is the dragons head so using the draconic chart is progressing towards "the destiny of your head"/"soul ? and i completely know what you mean with the 'aha' moment!
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 12:49 PM
http://draconicpisces.wordpress.com/ ------------------
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hannaramaa
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posted October 16, 2013 01:07 PM
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chargeomentum
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posted October 16, 2013 01:27 PM
Ext. chart > Options (zodiac) - WARNING : draconic.IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted October 16, 2013 01:31 PM
Maybe if you feel there's something amazing about your Draco. I've always been rather meh about mine.1 Gemini Sun, with an early Cancer Moon (OOB, no less) and a huge stellium there - Mars, Uranus, Valentine, Lust? Perhaps I've 'adapted' very differently, but that's not me. I used to be all 'ooh, Draco!' when I was younger, but now I've come back around to seeing it's more of a perk, or a verification of other forces at work. Like my Aries Venus conjunct my costar's BML, Moon, and Eros. Yeah, okay. That jives. Karma-Destinn on his Valentine? Sure. Natally (Draconically), it's interesting my Pluto is OOB, and instead of rising with my Ascendant, Venus is parallel. Valentine is also parallel my Sun. That's interesting, as I noticed that natally for my costar. I'm not sure if I have that 'vibe', though. I'll say 50/50 at this point; hit and miss. Some good hits, but several misses. IP: Logged |
chargeomentum
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posted October 16, 2013 01:38 PM
I still don't get one thing. How can a person be himself, or be a higher-self? I don't understand this thing at all, man. Do you mean higher-self is being himself? Or that higher-self is something that a person doesn't know about himself and is very important?Weren't you that guy who tried to convince people that sidereal astrology charts are true? Lol, doesn't matter anyway. According to normal natal chart I'm supposed to be energetic, in between pessimistic and optimistic, calculative, confused and scared. And according to draconic, I'm supposed to be pessimistic as big as speed of light unit, very bossy and active and just a guy who tells everybody to shut up in order to maintain peace. I don't know man. My brain seems to agree more with normal chart, though hmm.. You know what would be really perfect description of me? Normal mixed with draconic, because both have similiarities. But in any case I go with normal chart (or western I believe it's called) just because most people do IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted October 16, 2013 01:48 PM
Chargeomentum,My take on everything is that we roll in one of two directions: geo-tropical (western) or helio (sidereal). Everything else then becomes texture, exploration and research. For me, Draco is something I'll toss into the mix when I'm already evaluating a karmic synastry. It becomes interesting to see how things are operating on that 'other level'. But you always return to centre. At the end of the day, you're geo or helio, and that becomes the touchstone. IP: Logged |
chargeomentum
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posted October 16, 2013 01:53 PM
Just to be clear I didn't address my reply to you Indigo, but doesn't matter. So geo and helio are the major charts that people use in astrology?IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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From: Sumeria
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posted October 16, 2013 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Maybe if you feel there's something amazing about your Draco. I've always been rather meh about mine.1 Gemini Sun, with an early Cancer Moon (OOB, no less) and a huge stellium there - Mars, Uranus, Valentine, Lust? Perhaps I've 'adapted' very differently, but that's not me. I used to be all 'ooh, Draco!' when I was younger, but now I've come back around to seeing it's more of a perk, or a verification of other forces at work. Like my Aries Venus conjunct my costar's BML, Moon, and Eros. Yeah, okay. That jives. Karma-Destinn on his Valentine? Sure. Natally (Draconically), it's interesting my Pluto is OOB, and instead of rising with my Ascendant, Venus is parallel. Valentine is also parallel my Sun. That's interesting, as I noticed that natally for my costar. I'm not sure if I have that 'vibe', though. I'll say 50/50 at this point; hit and miss. Some good hits, but several misses.
I see what you mean. Though i do feel the draconic matches me alot more, the two things that got me to beleive it's truth are that we still have a conciousness inside the womb & from studying the psycology/spiritual nature of my mates over the past couple days - ------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
I still don't get one thing. How can a person be himself, or be a higher-self? I don't understand this thing at all, man. Do you mean higher-self is being himself? Or that higher-self is something that a person doesn't know about himself and is very important?Weren't you that guy who tried to convince people that sidereal astrology charts are true? Lol, doesn't matter anyway. According to normal natal chart I'm supposed to be energetic, in between pessimistic and optimistic, calculative, confused and scared. And according to draconic, I'm supposed to be pessimistic as big as speed of light unit, very bossy and active and just a guy who tells everybody to shut up in order to maintain peace. I don't know man. My brain seems to agree more with normal chart, though hmm.. You know what would be really perfect description of me? Normal mixed with draconic, because both have similiarities. But in any case I go with normal chart (or western I believe it's called) just because most people do
Yeh i know what you mean man, you need to make your own mind up on it, i've come to my own conclusion on it - I feel as if i've become to myself from just having the realization of it being my self , i think the western chart is more of a superficial astrological portrait that doesn't have any other relations - ------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Chargeomentum,My take on everything is that we roll in one of two directions: geo-tropical (western) or helio (sidereal). Everything else then becomes texture, exploration and research. For me, Draco is something I'll toss into the mix when I'm already evaluating a karmic synastry. It becomes interesting to see how things are operating on that 'other level'. But you always return to centre. At the end of the day, you're geo or helio, and that becomes the touchstone.
I don't agree with that - for me the Draconic is the touch stone and you one you need to realize and the self or soul, the other two just happen the way they happen. Is the node not what you progress through? ------------------
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hannaramaa
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posted October 16, 2013 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by chargeomentum:
Ext. chart > Options (zodiac) - WARNING : draconic.
Lol so funny to me they actually say "WARNING"... like it's a biohazard or something. ETA: YESSS I've never felt like a Gemini ASC!!! I think a Cancer ASC fits me perfectly! I attract a lot of Capricorns and Cancers and Pisces or Pisces moons and Scorpios. And Taurus' but not a lot of Virgos. I think I'm too crass for Virgos.  IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol so funny to me they actually say "WARNING"... like it's a biohazard or something.
Yeh i find that funny as **** haha, it says something though - i relate 100& to the Draconic and it feels like me, to an extent while i've been studying the tropical feel as if i've been slightly trying to be those placements, but with the Draconic it just falls into place. ------------------
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 02:23 PM
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 02:27 PM
Like i can tell i have the Pluto-Jupiter conjunction on my ascendant, but to have all three in scorpio doesn't fit me, i'm just not that dark, i strongly have a youthful ramness to me, same with my moon on the gemini/taurus cusp - i also have a big head like a bobble and i use my arms in a cancerish way which my capricorn mars gets ****** with - i've configured all to myself and can feel its more of a soul chart or higher self chart
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PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 04:51 PM
I think the problem with the Draconic chart is that people use the Natal as their main chart then might have a little look (if they go deep enough) at the Draconic chart and use it as a side or accessory, but honestly i think the Draconic should be looked at as the main and most useful chart, as it shows the inner soul / or the inner background of the Node / higher self - However you want to look at it, then the tropical is more how you adapted to this reality - But i want to know the reason for keeping the Draconic on the downlow - probably to deep for how the goverment wants mainstream society to be kept. ------------------
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posted October 16, 2013 05:38 PM
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DialecticLady: Are you talking alone? Can I come in please?
LOL... PlutoFish, were you high again? IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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posted October 16, 2013 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
LOL...PlutoFish, were you high again?
Haha, no i wasn't ------------------
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