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Topic: Sag Sun-Moon, Venus Cap, Virgo Mars
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 01:42 PM
I was talking about this with a friend and it seems very conflicting for a person to have these positions... We were debating on how this person would love and act in love, since his Venus and Mars would tell him to provide security but his Moon and Sun would tell him to keep his freedom no matter what.Can anyone shine a light on how this plays out? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa unregistered
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posted October 18, 2013 02:12 PM
Speaking from what I know about Virgo, and Mars in Virgo - I think they're actually pretty kinky people, but they would never admit this. Venus in Capricorns are pretty sexual too. However.... Sag and Virgo are both mutable signs, so I don't think this person would be as hard-assed as someone with more fixed or cardinal signs in their chart. Sag / Caps tend to know what they're looking for and Mars in Virgo would perhaps make them proceed (well, the Venus in Cap too) slowly and be gentle in their approach to a lover / crush.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 18, 2013 02:37 PM
Haha,the guy who has been haunting my mind, actually hsa a conjunction of Sun-Moon-MC in Sagittarius (but square Saturn on DESC); Venus in Capricorn (square Pluto in 7th). Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in Virgo (square Mercury in Sag and sesisquare Venus). LOL Do you know him? Anyway, Sun and Moon are more indicative of a general, unchanging core-being. Venus and Mars are especially telling in how we relate to other people in a romantic/ relational sense.
As for him, he is Sun/Moon in Sag - open, blunt (foot in mouth syndrome), witty, funy, outgoing, independent, and all that. However at the same time he was in a committed relationship for 7 years (Saturn conjunct DESC exact, trine Capricorn Venus). I would not dare to speculate aobut his sexual life though. EDIT: I am a little bit relating to this, as my Sun and Moon are in Aquarius. My Venus however is in Capricorn square Pluto. I am a pretty relaxed, friendly, tolerant, open person in a general sense. Quite independent (or stubborn as my mom sais. lol). But everything`s rather nice, at least as long as everything stays on a personal, yet not necessarily romantic level.
However, if I shall feel an attraction or fall in love, things change drastically. Suddenly everything is so heavy, serious, deep, a matter of "life and death", as it feels.
And most of the times my Sun and Moon are shaking their heads and wondering what the heck just happened. So there is undcoubtedly a big difference in my general personality and how I am in relationships (and close friendships). It surprises people usually. lol IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 04:33 PM
HAHAHAHA - you ladies kill me!! For once I wasn't asking about a person's sexuality quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Speaking from what I know about Virgo, and Mars in Virgo - I think they're actually pretty kinky people, but they would never admit this.
My Virgo Sun tells me to say this may be true, but watch me as I change the subject. quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Do you know him?
'fraid not. Although I'm starting to grow fond of Sag Sun people - something that is very contradictory to my Earthy nature. They really make my Aqua Moon shine its idealistic light.
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: I am a little bit relating to this, as my Sun and Moon are in Aquarius. My Venus however is in Capricorn square Pluto. I am a pretty relaxed, friendly, tolerant, open person in a general sense. Quite independent (or stubborn as my mom sais. lol). But everything`s rather nice, at least as long as everything stays on a personal, yet not necessarily romantic level. However, if I shall feel an attraction or fall in love, things change drastically. Suddenly everything is so heavy, serious, deep, a matter of "life and death", as it feels. And most of the times my Sun and Moon are shaking their heads and wondering what the heck just happened. So there is undcoubtedly a big difference in my general personality and how I am in relationships (and close friendships). It surprises people usually. lol
See? This is exactly what my friend and I were talking about: how it'd make a kind of conflict between what a person is normally and how a person will act in love/close relationships... IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 18, 2013 04:39 PM
This was my take on a Sag Sun-Moon, Cap Venus: quote: In a few words: he thinks he is freedom-oriented, but what he really is adventure-oriented, he wants novelty and to be positively surprised by his partner. Someone that imposes an easy challenge to pin down will attract his interest, for it is still a challenge, but won't keep his attention if it's something he can, at some point, dissect, lable and put on a shelf (Sag Sun). And that is exactly what he offers his potential partners: excitment and surprise. He won't stand still and in the same place, for he is always on the go, looking for things to entice his mental and sensorial capacities. He is loyal and trusting, very positive about the outcomes of his investments. He wants a partner who either can keep up with his pace or will let him roam without the pressure of expectations, someone who won't judge him for the choices he makes (Sag Moon). Now, how he approaches romance and love... Those are serious business! His Sun will allow him to flirt left and right, but he won't like to see the object of his affection doing so as well - actually, he'll allow her freedom to flirt, because of his morals, but he'll consider her desinterested at the slightest possibility she might have a finer affinity with another man. He wants his partner to remember all the little things he forgot to do and do them themselves, showing that as much as he does for them, they'll do for him. He wants to provide his partner with comforts - not luxury, but financial stability. He admires a woman who is focused in her career, but he truly wants someone who can take over all the pesky and boring aspects of his life and take care of them without bothering him or demanding he do the same for them. He shows his affection by giving practical presents and doing little favors. If called upon, he'll do the responsable thing and take care of his wife/family, but what he really wants is someone who can take as much care of him as he of them, and who is a rock where he can rest his wandering legs. However, if he feels he'll have to act the responsable and constant part, he'll rebel against it. That's the conflict I see between a Cap Venus and Sag Sun-Moon. Oh, and he'll want to show off his woman to his family and friends, so she'll have to be someone admirable and ambicious but also charismatic and self-possessed. (Cap Venus)
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LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 2268 From: Pluto-Venusia Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 18, 2013 09:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant:
Can anyone shine a light on how this plays out?
Britney Spears. She has this exact combination! Except she has an Aquarius Moon. There you go.
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 19, 2013 06:56 AM
Bumpity bump!IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 20, 2013 07:51 AM
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filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 21, 2013 07:18 AM
I need more info about this... any Sag Sun-Moon out there?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 21, 2013 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by filleaspirant: This was my take on a Sag Sun-Moon, Cap Venus: [QUOTE]In a few words: he thinks he is freedom-oriented, but what he really is adventure-oriented, he wants novelty and to be positively surprised by his partner. Someone that imposes an easy challenge to pin down will attract his interest, for it is still a challenge, but won't keep his attention if it's something he can, at some point, dissect, lable and put on a shelf (Sag Sun). And that is exactly what he offers his potential partners: excitment and surprise. He won't stand still and in the same place, for he is always on the go, looking for things to entice his mental and sensorial capacities. He is loyal and trusting, very positive about the outcomes of his investments. He wants a partner who either can keep up with his pace or will let him roam without the pressure of expectations, someone who won't judge him for the choices he makes (Sag Moon). Now, how he approaches romance and love... Those are serious business! His Sun will allow him to flirt left and right, but he won't like to see the object of his affection doing so as well - actually, he'll allow her freedom to flirt, because of his morals, but he'll consider her desinterested at the slightest possibility she might have a finer affinity with another man. He wants his partner to remember all the little things he forgot to do and do them themselves, showing that as much as he does for them, they'll do for him. He wants to provide his partner with comforts - not luxury, but financial stability. He admires a woman who is focused in her career, but he truly wants someone who can take over all the pesky and boring aspects of his life and take care of them without bothering him or demanding he do the same for them. He shows his affection by giving practical presents and doing little favors. If called upon, he'll do the responsable thing and take care of his wife/family, but what he really wants is someone who can take as much care of him as he of them, and who is a rock where he can rest his wandering legs. However, if he feels he'll have to act the responsable and constant part, he'll rebel against it. That's the conflict I see between a Cap Venus and Sag Sun-Moon. Oh, and he'll want to show off his woman to his family and friends, so she'll have to be someone admirable and ambicious but also charismatic and self-possessed. (Cap Venus)
[/QUOTE]sounds like my ideal man! Maybe because I have Sun in Sag and Venus in Cap, maybe that is why I like that description so much. IP: Logged |
filleaspirant Knowflake Posts: 2045 From: Rio de Janeiro Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 21, 2013 04:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: sounds like my ideal man! Maybe because I have Sun in Sag and Venus in Cap, maybe that is why I like that description so much.
Back off, woman! I saw him first! Do you feel you identify with it, even though your Moon's in Aqua? IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted October 21, 2013 05:20 PM
Actuall I saw him first. Diff. `Him`I guess though. yes, I identify with it. But Aqua Moon is not that different anyway. Just a little calmer, not so extrovert about one`s enthusiasm and passion (unless it is something to analyze, something mental I guess).
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 25, 2016 07:16 AM
How bizarre, I found this post.I've been obsessing over a Sag Sun conjunct neptune w/ Libra Moon and Cap Venus with Virgo Mars conjunct Jupiter. He is incredibly handsome and drives a porsche. Lol. And we hit it off immediately on the first date. The sexual chemistry was intense and consuming. But whenever I ask him to hang out he is either too busy with work or is out of town. I'm probably going to have to just give up on reaching out to him. So disappointing tho to meet your dream man and then it just dissipates like that. IP: Logged |
outofideas Knowflake Posts: 324 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 25, 2016 08:02 AM
Haha, an ex boyfriend of mine has these placements. For anyone who might wonder, this is someone born in early to mid December, 1979.He is a Sag Sun and Ascendant, Leo Moon, Capricorn Venus square Pluto, Mars and Jupiter conjunct in Virgo. Well, what's there to say beside their D's could be considered above average due to the Mars+Jupiter conjunction Anyway, this was the most boring person I have ever been with, in a relatively long relationship. Well, we lasted 1 year. I think the Capricorn Venus square to Pluto and the Virgo Mars in combination make this person very protective of openly showing their affection. Despite us having Mars/Venus double whammy square in synastry this relationship lacked passion and emotional connection. He is just too reserved and honestly, not much fun. Our relationship never progressed or felt like we could ever connect on a deep emotional level. I did desire him sexually quite strongly, but I had to initiate sex most of the times and it soon became just some routine, part of our mediocre relationship. There was no kink, mind you. I am inclined to kink if the partner would also enjoy it to a certain degree, however we could never seem to connect intellectually either. So nothing was ever really discussed on a significant level, even if Mars in Virgo would like dirtiness or kinkiness. Nothing came out naturally either. It all lacked fulfilment on a fundamental level. I was often left with the impression that he would most enjoy us playing multiplayer games. Even there was a sense of distance. Just not a strong enough connection to my liking, lacking any kind of excitement. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2016 02:40 AM
Interesting @outifideas Yeah this guy as well was born 1979 as well. Yes the Mars-Jupiter conjunction definitely indicates being well endowed. Still unsure if anything will progress - like it may just be a one night stand kinda thing. But good to know that they tend to be boring. Lol. IP: Logged |
outofideas Knowflake Posts: 324 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 27, 2016 04:30 AM
If he is always 'too busy' that does not sound good. However, I don't think these placements would be inclined to one night stands. Especially if his Libra Moon is conjunct Pluto. This would make him even more private and careful about his love life I would think. It would be best to see your synastry and composite to understand how you relate to one another and together.I can say my guy was committed but far too collected and involved in multiplayer games. It annoyed me that our relationship could never progress. After becoming intimately involved it all just kind of remained the same the entire duration of our relationship. I suppose he's not really experienced and does not come naturally for him to deepen the bond. I understand he has Neptune conjunct his Sun and I'm pretty certain his Ascendant, also Saturn squaring it, which explains pretty well why he'd rather live inside a video game world (Neptune conjunct Sun and Ascendant) and appear cold and distant to people (Saturn square Ascendant). Your guy most likely is not influenced by Neptune and Saturn which would alter his character a lot. He may in fact be much more outgoing and not as boring. However, the Cappy Venus square to Pluto combined with the Virgo Mars alone to me indicates that this person will be very careful in their close relationships and the amount of affection shown would be unsatisfactory for most people. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2016 06:05 AM
Outofideas,if you don`t mind me asking, why were you in a relationship with him? It sounds like you could connect neither intellecturally nor emotionally nor sexually (not really)? IP: Logged |
outofideas Knowflake Posts: 324 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 27, 2016 06:38 AM
The thing is I did want it to develop in to a deep, meaningful relationship but somehow this was not allowed. I was in love with him for quite some time before he would 'notice' me. My Venus falls in to his 12th house. In the end a silly argument separated us. We still keep in touch and in fact we had a chance to come back together, however I was no longer inclined to do that, especially because it would have been long-distance. He is just too cold for me and keeps a certain distance between us which became unsettling for me.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 30305 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 27, 2016 07:57 AM
thank you for explaining it.
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 28, 2016 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by outofideas: If he is always 'too busy' that does not sound good. However, I don't think these placements would be inclined to one night stands. Especially if his Libra Moon is conjunct Pluto. This would make him even more private and careful about his love life I would think. It would be best to see your synastry and composite to understand how you relate to one another and together.
I know right. But last I heard from him it was a combo of work and his mother being in the hospital. So not sure if anything will develop since he going through some tough stuff. Synastry wise - its a lot of oppositions: His Sun/Neptune conjunct my ASC. His Sun/Neptune opposite natal Venus in the 7th and conjunct my natal Saturn/Uranus in 1St H. Oh and his Mars/Jupiter conjunction is opposite natal Moon in Pisces. And his Libra Moon is conjunct natal MC and also opposing my natal Mars on the IC. And his NN is opposite natal moon - that is what made me open my eyes wide. Seems like a less common thing to encounter. And his Saturn is square natal Venus as well... Anyhoo, Thanks for your insight, outofideas - can't make much of these synastry aspects tho if nothing goes furthers lol. IP: Logged |
outofideas Knowflake Posts: 324 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted December 28, 2016 03:28 PM
Your Saturn/Uranus conjunction to his Sun/Neptune tells me that you fully accept his identity, whatever it may be, and are very tolerant of his character, in a 'grounded' way. The Mars - Moon double whammy opposition is very passionate, exciting and sexual, at the early stages at least, and could be very nice if handled properly long-term. Your Moon on his SN, however, might get daunting (for him) later on if you get in to a relationship. For you it could feel as if you've met a very significant one. Uranus must be opposing his Moon if he is going through troubles with the mother - perhaps intensified even more so by Pluto squaring it. Transiting Saturn sextiling it and Jupiter in the mix may or may not provide positive support to this situation. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2195 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 29, 2016 03:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by outofideas: Your Saturn/Uranus conjunction to his Sun/Neptune tells me that you fully accept his identity, whatever it may be, and are very tolerant of his character, in a 'grounded' way.
Thanks for that, outofideas. I'm pretty certain tho that we will probably never see each other. I may reach out to him one more time. But just goes to show, you can have good synastry with someone but that doesn't necessarily mean a relationship will bud. IP: Logged | |