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Topic: Question about horary and point system
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3491 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 05:56 PM
There are certain things in the Lilly point system that i really don't know how to tell/what they mean. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/dig5.html How do you tell if a planet is in it's own terms? 2) how to tell if planet is in own face? 3) swift in motion? 4) Saturn, Jupiter, Mars when oriental? how do you tell if they rise before the sun?? 5) Moon increasing in light (waxing)?? THANK YOU!! I am just learning horary and some of these terms aren't familiar to me.
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Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:01 PM
I don't follow many of Lily's rules. Some I don't understand either lol. That's probably why. However, I do follow the Table of dignities. To give you an example from the Table, Mercury in Aries is in its own Term if placed between 14-21 degrees Aries. Venus in Aries is in its own Face between 20 and 30 degrees. (however, Venus in Aries loses points for being in its own detriment too)
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6292 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 06:02 PM
Wow i have 7 degrees merc in gemini..IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 2499 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 06:06 PM
Omg. I wish I knew anything about horary...------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:06 PM
To know when a planet is rising, you look at the Asc/DC axis. Above the axis, they have already risen and are visible in the sky (this is why the 7-12 houses are the "public" houses). If say Saturn is in the 1st house and Sun is in the 2nd (so both in the "private" houses, below the horizon), following the natural progression of the houses counter-clockwise, Saturn is closer to the Asc and will conjunct Asc (will rise) before Asc conjuncts Sun (sunrise). Saturn rises before the Sun in this case (is oriental).IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:11 PM
A waxing Moon is a growing Moon. You have that after a New Moon (Sun-Moon conjunction) and before a Full Moon (Sun-Moon opposition). Any time between those 2 events, the Moon is waxing. If the opposition between Sun and Moon happened more recently, Moon is waning (decreasing). IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:13 PM
Swift in motion.. methinks refers to being faster than the usual speed of said planet. For instance, if a planet is about to turn Rx, it is slower than usual. So not swift in motion. IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:16 PM
I seriously disregard those rules. I consider them mind clutter. Horary can be made really simple or really, REALLY complicated. I think they invented all these rules to make it less accessible but it doesn't have to be. IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Wow i have 7 degrees merc in gemini..
Why do you need Term when you got Domicile? It's the strongest dignity evah! And btw it's no longer in its Term coz it's passed the 6 deg 59 min 59 secs. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6292 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 06:27 PM
Heh I'm good at tricking people into thinking i'm ridiculously smart. High iq belongs to merc in Pisces, Aries, Scorpio, Aqua .IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3491 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 06:53 PM
whoOaoaOa thanks hera!!! that was fast. i might post it on personal readings if you have time to take a little look IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3491 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted October 19, 2013 06:58 PM
would saturn be oriental if it is in the 10th house and the sun is in the 9th?IP: Logged |
Hera Moderator Posts: 8101 From: Aries fantasy land ^_^ Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 19, 2013 07:52 PM
I am thinking Sun sets before Saturn hence yes but not sure. Like I said, I don't use this info in judging horaries. IP: Logged |