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Topic: How is she so hyper when her chart has this many squares?!
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hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 10:35 AM
  
My friend is getting into astrology so I promised her I'd read her chart. When I looked it up I was bewildered by not only all the squares and oppositions in her chart, but also how strongly her ASC is aspected! I mean, it's crazy aspected. I just barely touched on her chart and the first thing I noticed was the only planet her ASC doesn't aspect is Uranus, and found that ironic since Aquarius shadows some of her first house. In any case, I have six squares in my chart that I can think of (11H stellium to Saturn and Neptune) and my energy is very heavy and life is a bit tougher for me than others (I'm not unhappy with it, but I have more to overcome than those I know). Why is it not the same for her?! She's the bouncy, lithe, twinkle-toes little thing and always moving from one place to the other and very social and outgoing. I would have NEVER thought her chart was full of squares like this!
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VenusDiSirius
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posted October 20, 2013 11:03 AM
Tight aspects -a singular, charged personality. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Tight aspects -a singular, charged personality.
Lol and here I thought it was going to be some complex answer. Well, she's LUCKY!!! IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted October 20, 2013 11:53 AM
Ok Hanna, her "hyperness" has nothing to do with her squares
It is her Mars/Mercury conjunction, (+ Sun)
this is an aspect that shows hyperness, ADD, ADHD, etc.------------------ "For all those who believe, expect a miracle.”
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Leocassandra
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posted October 20, 2013 12:09 PM
Holy s*** ! Wow...Well it just proved my theory that squares are better than oppositions because they create energy, action.IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted October 20, 2013 12:29 PM
Hello Leocassandra, with a square, you need compromise
with an opposition, you need to make a choice.------------------
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VenusDiSirius
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posted October 20, 2013 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Lol and here I thought it was going to be some complex answer. Well, she's LUCKY!!!
Maybe there is one!  I gravitate towards subtle, succinct, coherent solutions; I like breaking down the chart. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 20, 2013 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Leocassandra, with a square, you need compromise
with an opposition, you need to make a choice.
THANK YOU!!! I've always argued to myself about how squares and oppositions are different, but couldn't decipher it. I have Moon opposition Pluto, and this makes total sense. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 20, 2013 01:52 PM
Squares and oppositions boost up the energy of the aspecting planets.If it is Moon and Pluto, things get very deep, emotional, probing etc. However with a Sun-Mars-square you might be just bubbling over with energy and not knowing where to direct it, before you implode because of all the energy you feel insie.
if Mercury is part of it or mutable signs, people tend to become like quicksilver, moving here and there, sometimes even being restless, and just moving all over the place.
For her, I think, it is the combination of mutable Sun-Mars-Mercury-conjunction being squared by the big "stimulators" Uranus and Jupiter.
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next to neptune
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posted October 20, 2013 05:59 PM
Nice  I was born only 7 days before her! We have very similar aspects
It's interesting how people with so many squares/oppositions can turn it into something good! Good news for me heh:P
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somethingexcellent
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posted October 20, 2013 06:05 PM
Squares create lots of energy! Same with oppositions. They're invigorating aspects, which is why they're generally considered "hard" aspects - if you have no direction for the energy, it can turn into tension and conflict.Any ways, a whole lot of squares + lots of cardinal energy + what lalalinda said about Mars/Mercury/Sun AND square Uranus too...I'd be more surprised if she WASN'T hyper!  IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 20, 2013 06:08 PM
For a second I thought I was looking at my chart. She was born 2 days before meIP: Logged |
Node
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posted October 20, 2013 06:10 PM
Good thread.
Excellent example, and great answers.I would like to add that this person has no mutable energy. Which would tend to mean a person who sees things as black or white, up or down. But with the 12H placements, this would tend to give a more probing nature, both for self and others, deep thinker. Mirrored by the DSC oppositions. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
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posted October 20, 2013 06:40 PM
Edit
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Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams.IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 20, 2013 06:47 PM
^^^
and now you know when I was born. Btw, I wouldn't have had a problem mentioning my birth info. I didn't because I assumed you probably wouldn't want to LOL.. Since many people here don't . IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
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posted October 20, 2013 07:01 PM
*Shrug* I'm a pretty private person, so unless I ask or am specifically given permission that it's okay. I follow that metric, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. So I don't  Damn that Scorpio Venus  ------------------
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Lotis White
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posted October 20, 2013 08:26 PM
Your friend has a Uranus square Mercury/Mars/Sun, which are pretty hyper aspects! And it's tighter then the Saturn and Jupiter squares aspect there.I've noticed that hard aspects tend to be 'hyper' and active, while soft aspects tend to be more calm and steady. The thing is, this is modified somewhat by what planets are aspecting. A Uranus/Mars square is more hyper then a Mars/Saturn square. And a Venus/Saturn trine is more calm then a Venus/Uranus trine. IP: Logged |
DialecticLady
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posted October 20, 2013 08:38 PM
I agree, squares are a lot of energy going on, I have 10 squares in my chart plus an opposition between sun and moon. I'm very restless.IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted October 20, 2013 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello Leocassandra, with a square, you need compromise
with an opposition, you need to make a choice.
Squares are more wild then oppositions, they're like a fist fight or a collision. Bam! Oppositions are more civilized, and are like a debate. The planets take turns pleading their case. IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 20, 2013 08:46 PM
Lotis, do you consider the squares in that chart that Hanna posted, as 1 t-square, or multiple t-squares?IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted October 20, 2013 08:59 PM
Your friend also has a very tight Jupiter/Saturn opposition... She may swing between stark realism and joyous glee, and is learning how to balance these things in this life. She compares and contrasts then in her head a lot. Neptune conjunct Saturn is part of this opposition too.Oppositions tend to make people very 'aware'. These people tend make a lot of observations, of themselves, and others. If you stick to the major, most tight aspects in her chart, these would include her Sun/Mars/Mercury conjunction square Uranus as the configuration that makes her outgoing and 'hyper'. Her Jupiter opposite Saturn/Neptune/Asc configuration. And her Pluto/Venus conjunction. Those are the three strongest themes I see in her chart. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted October 20, 2013 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by 11nahyt:
Lotis, do you consider the squares in that chart that Hanna posted, as a 1 t-square, or multiple t-squares?
Hi, the T-square is definitely there, although it's hard to decipher the specific meaning of it all when there are large groups of planets in one big massive formation. The T-square itself just tells us that there's a lot of dynamic 'energy' in her chart. To make everything easier to understand, I analyze patterns like this by breaking everything down into smaller parts involving the tightest parts of the T-square. In general analysis I use pretty tight orbs, and love to see aspects under 3 degrees. Then I know something is really happening! When you get special patterns in a chart like a T-square or a yod, I'll stretch out the orbs a bit because patterns like this are significant, and show the person's general mode of operation. In this girl's chart I can see two distinct parts to the T-square... The Saturn/Neptune/Asc opposite Jupiter is one part, and the Sun/Mars/Mercury conjunction Square Uranus is the other part. Each of these parts say something distinctive about the girl's personality. All together they make up the energy pattern of the T-square. I hope that make sense. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 21, 2013 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Your friend also has a very tight Jupiter/Saturn opposition... She may swing between stark realism and joyous glee, and is learning how to balance these things in this life. She compares and contrasts then in her head a lot. Neptune conjunct Saturn is part of this opposition too.Oppositions tend to make people very 'aware'. These people tend make a lot of observations, of themselves, and others. If you stick to the major, most tight aspects in her chart, these would include her Sun/Mars/Mercury conjunction square Uranus as the configuration that makes her outgoing and 'hyper'. Her Jupiter opposite Saturn/Neptune/Asc configuration. And her Pluto/Venus conjunction. Those are the three strongest themes I see in her chart.
Yes, she does. She's very into progressive feminism, being liberal, etc. But I can see her practicality too. Thanks Lotis! IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted October 21, 2013 06:37 PM
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11nahyt: Lotis, do you consider the squares in that chart that Hanna posted, as 1 t-square, or multiple t-squares?
How dare you! Were you not satisfied with me saying that it's considered one t-square with multiple planets funneled in???? IP: Logged |
11nahyt
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posted October 21, 2013 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Hi, the T-square is definitely there, although it's hard to decipher the specific meaning of it all when there are large groups of planets in one big massive formation. The T-square itself just tells us that there's a lot of dynamic 'energy' in her chart. To make everything easier to understand, I analyze patterns like this by breaking everything down into smaller parts involving the tightest parts of the T-square. In general analysis I use pretty tight orbs, and love to see aspects under 3 degrees. Then I know something is really happening! When you get special patterns in a chart like a T-square or a yod, I'll stretch out the orbs a bit because patterns like this are significant, and show the person's general mode of operation. In this girl's chart I can see two distinct parts to the T-square... The Saturn/Neptune/Asc opposite Jupiter is one part, and the Sun/Mars/Mercury conjunction Square Uranus is the other part. Each of these parts say something distinctive about the girl's personality. All together they make up the energy pattern of the T-square. I hope that make sense.
Thank you for replying! I have the T-square nearly exactly like Hanna's friend (except without my asc involved..just the libra stellium, cap stellium, and jupiter) and I wasn't sure exactly how that could be interpreted since there are soo many planets involved in the t-square. many of the things you mentioned about Hanna's friend, I relate to as well. Especially the jupiter/Saturn opposition part. Being soo observant, etc. really accurate. IP: Logged |
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