posted October 28, 2013 02:36 AM            

List the sign you have in the moon, what house is it in and ALL the aspects involving the moon that you feel describe your relationship with your mother and explain why it describes your relationship with mother. You can also talk about other planets that are in the 4th and its aspects if it describes your relationship with mother.

Me:
Moon in Pisces in the 4th
Moon square neptune
Moon Opposite Sun
Moon Opposite Mercury

Moon square neptune in the first house. My mom has a strong personality and to be fair so do I (thanks to ascendent conjunct jupiter/uranus and mars in leo) but I had to fight for my identity always bc it always felt she wanted to shape me into herself and not let me develop freely. She was anxious, overprotective, controlling, authoritarian and not a good listener to me growing up. She is also very nourishing, compassionate, humanitarian, hard working, responsible, loyal, reliable and REALLY means well, good provider and doors always open. My moon opposes my sun and I always felt my parents are opposites, my dad is a therapist and great listener, he is not controlling at all and flexible and understanding, playful and affectionate. Its funny bc both are caps with venus in aqua but the other placements clearly make them quite different.

-Me feeling like you she NEVER listened to me growing up (moon opposite mercury)

-Me feeling she wanted to shape me into herself and breath for me and feeling she over protected me (moon in pisces square neptune in the 1st house)

-My dad's partial absence for 10 years to be able to provide for family with his career (sun in the 10th square neptune). Also I am always attracted to relationships were the other person needs saving or help growing and this happens with friendships and love. (sun and moon square neptune). I am sucker for a sad story or someone who needs love, attention, or help growing. Now I know is my sund/moon squaring neptune and my moon in pisces. I started to notice this about myself in 20s and ended some friendships bc of this but right after I let of this friends I got involved with my husband who was leaving in an office and was briefly homeless recently before meeting him and would not go to his mother for help bc he has issues with her. Crazy, I had no idea sun square neptune and moon square neptune influenced me and my choice in relationships and friendships so much.

-I always feared the death of my parents more than other kids, specially as a child or growing up. (Moon in the 4th, Moon rules my 8th)

It has taking so long to put all the pieces together and understand the aspects that I have of the sun and moon in a way that makes sense for me.

posted November 01, 2013 01:31 AM            

... can the 4th house possibly represent the father instead? Maybe in a night chart? That seems more fitting for my chart. I have a well aspected Venus and well aspected pluto in 4th. I've read interpretations of Pluto in the 4th being a possible indication of an absent father, the passing of one, or being a family black sheep. The second and third fit.

My moon is all hard aspects except for a trine to venus. It's also my chart ruler. :/ Although there is an unconditional love between my mother and I, it is still a difficult relationship. It's almost like "I love you but that doesn't mean I like you or have to like you". There also seems to be a lack of care about what I am doing but she can gossip and talk about what my siblings or anyone else on the planet is doing all day (hmm... maybe where that gemini moon came from).

Moon Opposition Uranus
Sun Square Moon
Moon Square Jupiter
Moon Trine Venus
Moon Conjunct Chiron
Moon Conjunct Lilith

At least the sun is in decent shape...Heavily aspected with almost all soft aspects (except for conjunct Mercury 8, square saturn and moon). Too bad that's not my chart ruler

posted November 01, 2013 05:49 AM            

Traditionally, the Sun is associated with the 4th and represents fathers and men. The 4th also rules your heritage, roots and homeland. The mother then by being the 7th house from the 4th, ie 10th is the mother.

posted November 01, 2013 09:27 AM            

Moon Square Uranus
Moon Square Neptune
Moon Trine Saturn
Moon Sextile Mars

My mom is a very peaceful person who hates conflicts of all kind. She is easy to cry and wears her heart on her sleeves. I took after her in that, I'm the ultimate peacemaker in the house and the dorms.

My mom thought us independence very early on. we grow up alone, isolated from our relatives and always kept to ourselves. I didn't get to make friends until after the age of 15. We never went to others for help, we always solved our problems ourselves.

My mom is a religious person and she tends to be quite superstitious. She believes all things metaphysical which clashes with my being Agnostic.

My Mom is very strict when it comes to my Academic performance and professional success. She always wants me to be the best, the one on top, the one who always gets the straight A's.

My mom is very persistent when it comes to achieving goals and taking a step ahead in life. She always encourages me to try new things, to look for opportunities, to become more social and hunt down chances. She always says " if you truly want something, work your butt off for it because it you don't, it will NEVER come to you."

posted November 01, 2013 10:59 AM            

My relationship with my mom was distant during childhood, then rocky during teenager phase, and finally much more harmonious after reaching adult phase.

My mom was not the kind of nurturing mom and she was immature and more self centered, and she could also be harsh at times when it comes to verbal reprimand. We were kind of distant when I was young, since I used to live with my grandparents. During teenager phase, we lived together again, and she was controlling and harsh, that our relationship was really bad and hurtful back then. Also, there was a time that she was going through emotional turmoils due to my brother doing badly at school and started smoking, so that I became her emotional support for a while to help her through depression. Then she was able to improve and see things less negatively, and in turn our relationship also got much better as I grew up and went to university.

posted November 02, 2013 02:22 AM            

I don't have a great relationship with my mother. I love her, but honestly, we butt-heads so much that it's easier to love her from afar. We've never really gotten along well, our relationship always feeling like a constant power struggle rather than a loving bond. Like she was competing with me.

When I was younger and still took people for granted I was horrible to her. Nobody can bring out my anger quicker than she can. I used to just get mad seeing that it was her calling "Oh no, here we go."

I wish I could have had a better relationship with her. Somebody to look up to and a best friend to confide in when I got older.. That would have been nice.

posted November 02, 2013 10:26 AM            

My Moon makes two aspects: square Venus (Pisces) and inconjunct Jupiter (Cancer). It's in mutual reception with Jupiter.

I have three planets in Capricorn in my 4th House: Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.

My mother and I have a very complicated relationship. I love my mother dearly, but we are very different people. She is fun, happy-go-lucky, and a bit whimsical, but she's also very unstable and not at all reliable (Moon/IC in Sagittarius). There has always been a fundamental difference between what I need, and what my mother was able to provide (Moon square Venus). When I was growing up, my mother struggled with mental illness, which was really difficult for me, given the severity (Neptune in 4th). Now that I am older, our roles are reversed, and I take care of my mother due to her poor health, which is really prohibitive in terms of my social life and career (Saturn in 4th).

This obviously isn't shown directly in my chart, but my mother also has the Moon in Leo, and I find it to be just about her defining characteristic. The woman needs lots of ATTENTION, or she'll whine that no one loves her/everyone hates her/etc. This sort of just reinforces the Saturn in 4th/Moon square Venus complex for me, hah

I would say that Uranus moreso describes the home life than my mother particularly: very erratic. We moved almost every year when I was a kid.

Independently of astrology, my family history/relationship with my mother has always been a big blow to my self-esteem/self-worth. Astrologically speaking, however, Saturn and Neptune square my Sun definitely show this, I think.

posted November 02, 2013 01:24 PM            

@23...though i agree father is often the 4th in charts, and mother h10, traditionally 4th house is ruled by cancer= moon, hence the connection to mother

It just isn't a rigid finding.

Though my dad's sun is in my IC, most of.the house is in gemini, which describes the intellectual, also verbally oriented atmosphere of both parents and my childhood home. The arts and radio/theatre especially not only provided the wherewithal to maintain the home otself but the favourite pastimes/interests of those in it.

posted November 02, 2013 02:31 PM            

She has always been on the go and a traveler. The first 8 years of my life saw 10 different residences in 5 states. Home was always on the road.

While she's never been academic or all that engaged in philosophical pursuits (she isn't a HS graduate), it's something that she's VERY proud of about me. She loves to talk to others about my education, and she is fascinated with my academic ponderings, and I think that I'm the one she wants to learn such things through.

When I was a kid, I always thought her personality loomed large...too expansive for my sensitive tastes really.

Her Leo Moon is conjunct my Cancer Moon and her Sun sextiles my Moon EXACTLY. I'm not sure I need to elaborate on this a whole lot, other than there came a point when I felt the emotional entanglement too strong, and I needed to 'cut the cord' by what else...going on the road.

posted November 02, 2013 05:47 PM            

Moon in Scorpio in the 8th house
4th house Gemini
Mercury/Chiron/Jupiter/Sun in Cancer in the 4th house

posted November 02, 2013 08:02 PM            

And if there isn't enough fire between us, my 4th house Sag Mars falls in her 1st house, and her 4th house Aires Mars trines my Leo Venus and falls in my 8th.

I love her intensely, but sometimes I wish she'd back off a bit. But the odd thing is that even though there was always an emotional intensity between us, to some degree she was a bit of an absentee mother.