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IrisRainbow
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posted October 29, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose that when we want to see a person's health we check the sixth house and it's condition..
I was wondering earlier if we can see eating disorders in the chart..Like,anorexia nervosa or bulimia?
Would a Pluto in the sixth make someone obsess over their weight?and if Pluto there is in aspect to the Asc by any chance,could that mean that the person worries about the weight too much so that affects the way they look?

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posted October 29, 2013 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it could be. Or it could have completely different expressions.

Eating disorders often show in 2nd house, Moon and Ceres, too. (usually the ASC figures in in some way though). 6th house - maybe, don`t know for sure. would make sens though, as it deals with adapting to the environment.


For me I think it is the directionless (peregrine) Aqua-Moon in 2nd house, ruling 8th house, inconjunct Saturn in Cancer in 8th house exact (which rules 2nd house).
- the tension between independence and and dependence.


Add to that Ceres in Pisces in 3rd house conjunct ASC-ruler Jupiter, squaring NN and Neptune on the ASC. also widely squaring 4th house ruler Mars.

For me the eating disorder has clearly emotional reasons and also especially is tied to my mother or issues with my mother. In my case probably some sort of overidentification there, or co-depndency between us.


The 6th house might play into this after all. being in Taurus, ruler of it is Venus in 1st house in Capricorn squaring Pluto right on the MC.

(Pluto on MC could also be the "devouring mother" - in this case my Mom is a Scorpio, so it would actually make a little sense. Don`t get me wrong I admire her immensely, she has always been doing everything for the family, but she can get a little overwhelming with her caring).


My Pluto is also quinkunx my Ceres exactly and Jupiter by 1-2 degrees. The Persephone-myth comes to mind. As a matter of fact Persephone in my chart in 13 Virgo (diet, hu?) is widely opposite Ceres on 9 Pisces.

How could I ever leave a well meaning, caring mother?


Well do not worry I am not going to psychoanalyze myself here, but for me it def. comes from the emotional sphere, esp. in context with my mother-daughter-relationship. So it makes sense that Moon and Ceres come up (well Moon is your emotional intake, Ceres is the nutrition and what nurtures you).

maybe for other people it will be different.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I struggled with having an eating disorder from 14-21. I was in and out of therapy blah blah.

I've come a long way. I eat whatever I want and just am active so I'm at a healthy weight and like my body without the obsessing. Anyways.

Moon in 6th conjunct DC by 20 minutes opposite Pluto in 12th by 2 and a half degrees. Both square sun in Leo.

To specify the tsquare.
Ascendant - Scorpio 12.31
Sun - Leo 12.32
Moon - Taurus 12.11
Pluto - Scorpio 9.50

oh and mercury has a tsquare w/ them too.
Mercury - Leo 14.18

I've seen this play out before in fixed tsquares. A friend of mine with the same issue has Venus opp Saturn as well as a fixed tsquare. (her tsquare is mercury moon pluto)

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posted October 29, 2013 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this is the problem with me but I have Moon square Pluto and the main reason I would end up making myself throw up in the bathroom was because while I wanted to lose a few pounds my mother always made me eat.
She still does it and I still do it as well.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
I struggled with having an eating disorder from 14-21. I was in and out of therapy blah blah.

I've come a long way. I eat whatever I want and just am active so I'm at a healthy weight and like my body without the obsessing. Anyways.

Moon in 6th conjunct DC by 20 minutes opposite Pluto in 12th by 2 and a half degrees. Both square sun in Leo.

To specify the tsquare.
Ascendant - Scorpio 12.31
Sun - Leo 12.32
Moon - Taurus 12.11
Pluto - Scorpio 9.50

oh and mercury has a tsquare w/ them too.
Mercury - Leo 14.18

I've seen this play out before in fixed tsquares. A friend of mine with the same issue has Venus opp Saturn as well as a fixed tsquare. (her tsquare is mercury moon pluto)


omg you're my brother's astro twin

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posted October 29, 2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a fixed Grand Cross. During a time I was depressed for reasons unrelated to my personal appearance, I had gotten a Lot of weight. Once my issues were addressed though I lost it quite quick. However it took me a year or so to stabilize my weight - I had gotten too thin in my haste to lose weight. Pluto involved in the Grand Cross in the 6th house. It would explain how I was able to change so radically my appearance in such a short amount of time. So in my case, my afflicted Pluto could be said to have helped me navigate away from an eating disorder that I could have developed back then. Never had eating irregularities before that or now either.

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posted October 29, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
I don't know if this is the problem with me but I have Moon square Pluto and the main reason I would end up making myself throw up in the bathroom was because while I wanted to lose a few pounds my mother always made me eat.
She still does it and I still do it as well.

Tch. It must be a Moon-Pluto thing. My mom was the same. Try sports instead. Though I have squares to Mars and an opposition from Pluto so that outlet could have been easier for me.

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posted October 29, 2013 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
omg you're my brother's astro twin

let me see a picccc!

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posted October 29, 2013 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm now i think about it. my sister has the square. she never had an eating disorder though but she's struggled with yo-yo dieting. her pluto is conjunct her MC and her moon squares it from the 7th. neither planet aspect her ASC.

i think the extreme restriction is more of the problem that set me apart. like i could go days without consuming a calorie. and i liked the control. i still can have incredible control when stressors trigger it but now i know better to not go down that road. i had a hiccup this year and was like "oh it's cool i can do this but i literally don't want to live like that ever again."

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posted October 29, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually eat when I'm nervous. I have Sun Square Moon, and Jupiter between 5/6th house. I can't imagine other planets positions in my chart... :S

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posted October 29, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
let me see a picccc!

I can't upload one cos I am always on phone xD he's 34 btw

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posted October 29, 2013 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
[b] I don't know if this is the problem with me but I have Moon square Pluto and the main reason I would end up making myself throw up in the bathroom was because while I wanted to lose a few pounds my mother always made me eat.
She still does it and I still do it as well.

Tch. It must be a Moon-Pluto thing. My mom was the same. Try sports instead. Though I have squares to Mars and an opposition from Pluto so that outlet could have been easier for me.[/B][/QUOTE]

I hit the gym every single day for at least two hours but she just wont leave me in peace.
Every day I eat a Tuna Salad. and she's always like ''Oh you eat too much'' and blah blah and I tell her not to cook **** for me and bring me **** to eat and today she made two pizzas and a chocolate cake which ,of course,I have to eat so I simply did what I knew the best.

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posted October 29, 2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
I usually eat when I'm nervous. I have Sun Square Moon, and Jupiter between 5/6th house. I can't imagine other planets positions in my chart... :S

I think that jupiter in the first could make a person overweight while saturn in the first would do the opposite

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posted October 29, 2013 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
I hit the gym every single day for at least two hours but she just wont leave me in peace.
Every day I eat a Tuna Salad. and she's always like ''Oh you eat too much'' and blah blah and I tell her not to cook **** for me and bring me **** to eat and today she made two pizzas and a chocolate cake which ,of course,I have to eat so I simply did what I knew the best.

Oh. Mine wasn't that bad. She would harp on me to finish my food even if the portion she had given me was too big for me ever since I was little. Stuffing my mouth even (so annoying). She would freak out when I didn't eat a full meal when I was a teenager too, but she couldn't control me then, lol.

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posted October 29, 2013 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
[b] I hit the gym every single day for at least two hours but she just wont leave me in peace.
Every day I eat a Tuna Salad. and she's always like ''Oh you eat too much'' and blah blah and I tell her not to cook **** for me and bring me **** to eat and today she made two pizzas and a chocolate cake which ,of course,I have to eat so I simply did what I knew the best.

Oh. Mine wasn't that bad. She would harp on me to finish my food even if the portion she had given me was too big for me ever since I was little. Stuffing my mouth even (so annoying). She would freak out when I didn't eat a full meal when I was a teenager too, but she couldn't control me then, lol. [/B][/QUOTE]

MY MOTHER IS REALLY LIKE REALLY ANNOYING WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD AND EATING!!She's always like ''are you full?Was that enough?Are you still hungry?Are you full?'' I told her that if she asks me that once again I will punch her,I am mean,I know @_@

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posted October 29, 2013 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my mom is like my best friend. our venuses are 1 degree from eachother. we have a ball.

i think as a child she neglected me in some ways attention-wise but i really don't think it played out as harshly for me as my pluto/moon/sun tsquare would suggest. my dad was kind of a brat, though.

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I'm so cappy
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posted October 29, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suggest you to check your Moon, Ceres, Venus, Saturn, 2nd house, 6th house, Capricorn, Virgo, Libra and the relationship between them.

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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posted October 29, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
I think that jupiter in the first could make a person overweight while saturn in the first would do the opposite

I do have Saturn in the 1st... and I'm fat!!

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posted October 29, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
MY MOTHER IS REALLY LIKE REALLY ANNOYING WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD AND EATING!!She's always like ''are you full?Was that enough?Are you still hungry?Are you full?'' I told her that if she asks me that once again I will punch her,I am mean,I know @_@

She probably made you those pizzas because she was worried about you. *nods* Extremely idiotic I know, but some people are just not fit to become parents (my opinion of my mother). In that case, it falls to the offspring to make things work. Show her how responsible you are and have her wallow in shame! If she wants to make food for you, it should be something that she would make you any other day in the foundations of a varied and healthy diet. It would be an excellent solution if you two could talk it out like that.
Or you could go my way and terrorize her into not interfering in your business. That worked for me. *no shame*

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posted October 29, 2013 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
I do have Saturn in the 1st... and I'm fat!!

Define the word FAT :P
Because I say that I am fat and that it's the end of the world but I am like 63-64 kilos and 168cm xD

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posted October 29, 2013 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pvorb:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
[b] MY MOTHER IS REALLY LIKE REALLY ANNOYING WHEN IT COMES TO FOOD AND EATING!!She's always like ''are you full?Was that enough?Are you still hungry?Are you full?'' I told her that if she asks me that once again I will punch her,I am mean,I know @_@


She probably made you those pizzas because she was worried about you. *nods* Extremely idiotic I know, but some people are just not fit to become parents (my opinion of my mother). In that case, it falls to the offspring to make things work. Show her how responsible you are and have her wallow in shame! If she wants to make food for you, it should be something that she would make you any other day in the foundations of a varied and healthy diet. It would be an excellent solution if you two could talk it out like that.
Or you could go my way and terrorize her into not interfering in your business. That worked for me. *no shame*[/B][/QUOTE]

Ha ha omg..that is what I actually did earlier.
I think that I am bulemic but never went to the doctor to get something like that confirmed.

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posted October 29, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
Define the word FAT :P
Because I say that I am fat and that it's the end of the world but I am like 63-64 kilos and 168cm xD

xD

But I have big bones, I'm 102 kilos and 172cm, BUT my personal said I have 71 kilos of bones... Well, Father Saturn made me big..

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posted October 29, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IrisRainbow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DaniPepper87:
xD

But I have big bones, I'm 102 kilos and 172cm, BUT my personal said I have 71 kilos of bones... Well, Father Saturn made me big..


omg 71 kilos of bones?
Btw Is your Saturn afflicted or well aspected?

I recently found out that I have 30 kilos of muscle and the rest is fat LOL

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posted October 29, 2013 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
omg 71 kilos of bones?
Btw Is your Saturn afflicted or well aspected?

I recently found out that I have 30 kilos of muscle and the rest is fat LOL


lol
Well, my Saturn is well aspected, Conjuncts Venus and Uranus in Saggitarius, trine Moon and Jupiter and Sextile Mars... I reallt don't know xD

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posted October 29, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pvorb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
Ha ha omg..that is what I actually did earlier.
I think that I am bulemic but never went to the doctor to get something like that confirmed.


From what you described earlier, it appears as you could be in the first steps of developing it. But it's good that you're trying to address your problem instead of ignoring it.

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