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Topic: Bullies & Astrology
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Libracorn
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From: Born in Saturn, grew up in Venus
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 08:13 PM
  
I've always wondered, are there any aspects in a natal chart that would indicate a person who is a bully? When I say bully, I mean both verbally & physical bullying...Is there any planets in a birth chart that says how a person may criticize, pick-on or talk about people? These are some of the thoughts that keep me up at night  ------------------
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Astra
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posted October 30, 2013 08:20 PM
The most vicious people I know of had moon in Pisces. This placement gives great insight in either healing or hurting people. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted October 30, 2013 08:22 PM
just personal experience, but every single aries moon person I have come across = a bully, even more so if it was a 1st house placementIP: Logged |
KAMcA10
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From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Libracorn:
I've always wondered, are there any aspects in a natal chart that would indicate a person who is a bully? When I say bully, I mean both verbally & physical bullying...Is there any planets in a birth chart that says how a person may criticize, pick-on or talk about people? These are some of the thoughts that keep me up at night
I just read an article saying recent research shows bullying is about status-seeking among your same-sex peer group. Boys bully other boys to win respect from other boys and girls bully other girls to win respect from other girls. If a boy targets a girl (or vice versa) it's a girl who is unpopular with the boys (and vice versa). From this perspective, Venus dominance in females and Mars dominance in males, potentially. As a Mars dominant male I never thought of myself as a bully but I have to admit I had a couple of moments. In BaZi, this is easy: You're just looking for a lot of the controlling element in the person's chart or a chart that has the controlling element as its "Useful God." IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted October 30, 2013 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by KAMcA10:
I just read an article saying recent research shows bullying is about status-seeking among your same-sex peer group. Boys bully other boys to win respect from other boys and girls bully other girls to win respect from other girls. If a boy targets a girl (or vice versa) it's a girl who is unpopular with the boys (and vice versa). From this perspective, Venus dominance in females and Mars dominance in males, potentially. As a Mars dominant male I never thought of myself as a bully but I have to admit I had a couple of moments. In BaZi, this is easy: You're just looking for a lot of the controlling element in the person's chart or a chart that has the controlling element as its "Useful God."
yeah but what about when peer pressure is over and done (school is over, no peers to impress) and bullies are still doing it in the workplace or just with casual friends, etc? it goes beyond just school years and impressing peers... IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 08:44 PM
Fire dominant men seem to produce bully types.
Less from aries.
A lot of aries men are actually really sensitive and sometimes they can act like a prick but it's very impersonal and not directed to anyone.IP: Logged |
Liliya
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posted October 30, 2013 09:09 PM
3 of my friends are Aries women (1st: Cancer Moon, Gem Mars, Aries Venus; 2nd: Aries Moon, Taurus Mars, Pisces Venus; 3rd: Taurus Moon, Taurus Mars, Pisces Venus , and they are bullies! They constantly make fun of other people, upset them, argue, and are a******s to those they obviously dislike. 1 of them was violent before (Cancer Moon one).My dad is Pisces Sun, Scorpio Moon, Aries Mars, and he was abusive. I know of 1 Gemini girl (Leo Moon, Pisces Mars, Aries Venus), who is a bully. Actually, she's one of the twins. Her sister is nicer. Actually, this evil twin had a physical fight with one of my Aries friends before. Looking at the pattern, out 5, 4 people had a combination of Aries and Pisces in personal planets, the other has Aries and Cancer. Also, some have Taurus and Gemini in the combo. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 09:18 PM
From what I notice, often afflicted mars, moon or saturn - either the "victim" or the "bully" (sometimes they're both lol). Or sun oppose saturn. My experiences with these people are quite awful. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5040
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 09:18 PM
Leo suns can be bullies. Not always, but all the bullies I have known irl have been Leo suns.IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 09:23 PM
Leo Mercuries.IP: Logged |
KAMcA10
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From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by starmoon:
yeah but what about when peer pressure is over and done (school is over, no peers to impress) and bullies are still doing it in the workplace or just with casual friends, etc? it goes beyond just school years and impressing peers...
I would think it still involves picking on others to raise one's perceived value in a group. Maybe a Saturn dominant would pick on anyone with fewer responsibilities and less status in the office in order to climb the ladder. Etc
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WateryAir
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Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 09:38 PM
Aqua moons.The people I have met with this placement are extremely rude and demeaning of others.
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Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Leo suns can be bullies. Not always, but all the bullies I have known irl have been Leo suns.
Yeah, I agree with that too.
I think the sign itself is the bully archetype.
But the Leo Mercuries I have come in contact have always got too me and acted like they were the best thing that happened and are completely oblivious to how showy their ego is by the things they say.
They're very demeaning, even to their friends. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I agree with that too.
I think the sign itself is the bully archetype.
But the Leo Mercuries I have come in contact have always got too me and acted like they were the best thing that happened and are completely oblivious to how showy their ego is by the things they say.
They're very demeaning, even to their friends.
I have never in my life met a Virgo bully. Quite the opposite. They usually don't stand up for themselves.
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NeptunianSag
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From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:03 PM
In highschool i was mentally bullied by a pisces sun. They like headgames for sure.IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Yeah, I agree with that too.
I think the sign itself is the bully archetype.
But the Leo Mercuries I have come in contact have always got too me and acted like they were the best thing that happened and are completely oblivious to how showy their ego is by the things they say.
They're very demeaning, even to their friends.
I have never in my life met a Virgo bully. Quite the opposite. They usually don't stand up for themselves.[/B][/QUOTE]Yeah, I know right.
Us Virgos  It's kinda how I used to be, tbh :/
But now I am pretty intense and really don't take any disrespect from people and defend myself. I feel that I don't have anything to lose anymore and show them my wraith (Very cold, critiquing of them and their character, intelligence, etc)(this is only when they make me immensely angry as a last resort) when I get fed up with their impractical bullying.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I know right.
Us Virgos It's kinda how I used to be, tbh :/
But now I am pretty intense and really don't take any disrespect from people and defend myself. I feel that I don't have anything to lose anymore and show them my wraith (Very cold, critiquing of them and their character, intelligence, etc) when I get fed up with their impractical bullying.
I was always too skittish to bully. I became quiet and withdrawn or I left. I know a couple of other Virgo suns who never like conflict and want to run. They say Libras do not like conflict but I haven't noticed that. It seems like Virgos do not like it and Libra likes to bicker. I will bicker, but do not like confrontations. Libra will confront without any problem.
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Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Yeah, I know right.
Us Virgos It's kinda how I used to be, tbh :/
But now I am pretty intense and really don't take any disrespect from people and defend myself. I feel that I don't have anything to lose anymore and show them my wraith (Very cold, critiquing of them and their character, intelligence, etc)(this is only when they make me immensely angry as a last resort) when I get fed up with their impractical bullying.
Especially if I really like a girl and they disrespect or bully her, I get even angrier. I rather them pick on me than her. I don't want to see her get hurt. (as in emotionally) IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5040
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Especially if I really like a girl and they disrespect or bully her, I get even angrier.
That could be your moon sign. My moon sign is really protective of people I know are my true friends. Libra planets like to give what they get though so they have to prove they are true friends or I don't take them seriously.
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Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Yeah, I know right.
Us Virgos It's kinda how I used to be, tbh :/
But now I am pretty intense and really don't take any disrespect from people and defend myself. I feel that I don't have anything to lose anymore and show them my wraith (Very cold, critiquing of them and their character, intelligence, etc) when I get fed up with their impractical bullying.
I was always too skittish to bully. I became quiet and withdrawn or I left. I know a couple of other Virgo suns who never like conflict and want to run. They say Libras do not like conflict but I haven't noticed that. It seems like Virgos do not like it and Libra likes to bicker. I will bicker, but do not like confrontations. Libra will confront without any problem. [/B][/QUOTE] I was thinking that same thing about Libra.
The Libra guys and girls irl I met have not been the reserved ones, but not tough either, but rather more confrontational as you said. I think the Virgo/Libra mix really is one of the purest of people  And I'm not just saying that because we're one. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 1826
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] Especially if I really like a girl and they disrespect or bully her, I get even angrier.
That could be your moon sign. My moon sign is really protective of people I know are my true friends. Libra planets like to give what they get though so they have to prove they are true friends or I don't take them seriously.[/B][/QUOTE]So Gemini Moon? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5040
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I was thinking that same thing about Libra.
The Libra guys and girls irl I met have not been the reserved ones, but not tough either, but rather more confrontational as you said.I think the Virgo/Libra mix really is one of the purest of people And I'm not just saying that because we're one.
I think it is, too. They are very nice. I have known a couple of others, like my Libra buddy and another Virgo sun born just a few days ahead of me. I love people born around my time because the planets were doing great things. That's why when I see someone that has a birthdate near mine and similar star chart, I always wanna talk to them
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Mercurian Intellect
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From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
[b] I was thinking that same thing about Libra.
The Libra guys and girls irl I met have not been the reserved ones, but not tough either, but rather more confrontational as you said.I think the Virgo/Libra mix really is one of the purest of people And I'm not just saying that because we're one.
I think it is, too. They are very nice. I have known a couple of others, like my Libra buddy and another Virgo sun born just a few days ahead of me. I love people born around my time because the planets were doing great things. That's why when I see someone that has a birthdate near mine and similar star chart, I always wanna talk to them [/B][/QUOTE]Aww, me too
The Virgo/Libras are definitely my favorite to talk to. Also when someone says they're a Virgo I get all excited and try to be their friend, lol. The last girl I fell in love with (last year) was a Virgo Sun/Libra Mercury and she was all that I could of asked for in a girl, shy, intelligent in her own cute way, beautiful, etc, but it didn't turn out so great.
She didn't like me as a bf, (only as a friend) but that could have been because she was not fully straight, lol. IP: Logged |
MorpHnStorM
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Registered: Oct 2013
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posted October 30, 2013 10:31 PM
My Aries (Gem Moon) bro is the worst...the only person on this planet I've managed to actually hate...was abusive in every way to me, and bullied others. Has abused all his girl friends, and will find a way to get into a fight with any dominant man he comes across...IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Aww, me too
The Virgo/Libras are definitely my favorite to talk to. Also when someone says they're a Virgo I get all excited and try to be their friend, lol.The last girl I fell in love with (last year) was a Virgo Sun/Libra Mercury and she was all that I could of asked for in a girl, shy, intelligent in her own cute way, beautiful, etc, but it didn't turn out so great.
She didn't like me as a bf, (only as a friend) but that could have been because she was not fully straight, lol.
Aaaw that's too bad the relationship didn't work out  IP: Logged |
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