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Topic: Mercury in Scorpio and Mercury in Aries
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hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 12:02 AM
  
What does Mercury in Scorpio need from Mercury in Aries (and vice versa) for smooth communication? I "connect" with this Mercury, but there still seems to be crosswires in what we hear what the other is saying. Maybe it's my own Mercury square Neptune and Capricorn too. I usually meet people with Mercury conjunct / sextile Pluto or Mercury in Scorpio, and like them but I get frustrated with how they communicate and would like others experiences or tips.IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted November 01, 2013 12:22 AM
From my experience, mercury conjunct pluto in scorp often just strike to the heart of the matter and tell it like it is, sometimes that upsets me. Slightly mischievous as well, love to find out what make others tick. It's important to remember not to take things to heart. Hehe I live with one. My mercury is in sag so we clash sometimes. He likes to probe into my mind and pick it apart, it's annoying sometimes but I've found that the best way to deal with it is just let him. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 12:33 AM
See, that's really interesting. The ones I know don't probe my mind. Probably because they can sense I'm straightforward? I do the probing and typically, they don't budge (I've learned - don't push, fine, I get it.) But it's just in everyday communication they don't say things in a way I understand. For example, I asked my friend what we were doing tonight, and she says "I'm going up to my parents to get dressed (in her costume) and take pictures." Apparently that was an invite, but I didn't get that (to me that sounds like "This is what I'm doing") so I ended up not going. IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted November 01, 2013 01:02 AM
^ Agreed. It didn't sound like an invitation. If I were in such a situation I'd not go either.
My s.o is somewhat similar. Sometimes he expects me to understand *very* subtle hints in his words. Well I can't. He also has a habit of reading into my very innocent words and deducting all kinds of meaning from them.
Just different communication styles, honestly I can't think of a solution for it. Although in my case, over the time I get used to it, and learn to sorta "sense" his hints and ask him to clarify... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 01:12 AM
But it gets exhausting! I really wonder what it's like to have a water Mercury. In a sense I do because Vedically it's in Pisces. But Vedically, yours would be in Scorpio and you're in the same boat I'm in.IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted November 01, 2013 01:32 AM
Yeah...Especially in everyday communication, I prefer direct and to-the-point words...I guess that water mercuries often let their emotions seep into their words and colour their thinking process. Deep, meaningful, words with multiple meanings... http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synastrymercury.html quote:
When Mercury in Fire and Mercury in Water people interact: both individuals are intuitive and sometimes impractical thinkers, but Water Mercury may find Fire Mercury too self-righteous and egoistic. Debates are fun for Fire Mercury, while Water Mercury prefers not to argue. Water Mercury enjoys communication in which they connect with their partner, while Fire Mercury is far more excitable and self-centered in their expression. Fire Mercury can be too direct and brash for the more sensitive Water Mercury; while Water Mercury can dampen the enthusiasm of Fire Mercury, too often becoming the proverbial "wet blanket". Fire can quickly become impatient with Water's silences. How they can benefit each other: When they consciously try to learn from each other, Fire can help Water by infusing Water's plans with optimism and enthusiastic vision of the future. Water reminds Fire to be sensitive to others in communications. Common Ground: Both Water and Fire Mercury people intuit things rather than analyze them. They are both warm thinkers and communicators.
So true. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted November 01, 2013 01:39 AM
Mercury inconjunct Mercury could be a possibility. With aries/scorpio placements.
with an inconjunct,
This could feel like both of you two are aware of the extent of each others minds (both ruled by mars) not really threatened or nessarily on the same wave length.In quincunx often feels indifferent unless there is some other planets positively aspecting your mercuries to bring your minds together in harmony. Water mercuries are sensitive..
Air and fire can sometimes be too agressive for water mercury. Like the other day I was told by pisces mercury I was being too agressive... and told me to stop talking LOL.
I was just excited and somewhat frustrated and this was not personally directed at MiP.
but water mercury takes things personally. :P
and then I was like OH NOO DON'T BE LIKE THAT..I WAS JUST... but nope water mercury has to sulk it out and asks for an apology 10 minutes later...
It's cute though.. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 01:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
Yeah...Especially in everyday communication, I prefer direct and to-the-point words...I guess that water mercuries often let their emotions seep into their words and colour their thinking process. Deep, meaningful, words with multiple meanings... http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/synastrymercury.html So true.
 That's what I was doing when reading the excerpt! I hit my hand on the couch like "OMG YES." Even though Mercury in Scorpio understands me, my personality, they don't "get" what I'm trying to communicate. I think they pay attention more to the frequency of what's being said, the vibration, and hear it more than what I'm actually saying. I thought Mercury in Scorpio and Aries wouldn't be too bad since we're both Mars ruled, but more and more lately (must be because of Scorpio season) I'm being proved otherwise. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 02:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Mercury inconjunct Mercury could be a possibility. With aries/scorpio placements.
with an inconjunct,
This could feel like both of you two are aware of the extent of each others minds (both ruled by mars) not really threatened or nessarily on the same wave length.In quincunx often feels indifferent unless there is some other planets positively aspecting your mercuries to bring your minds together in harmony. Water mercuries are sensitive..
Air and fire can sometimes be too agressive for water mercury. Like the other day I was told by pisces mercury I was being too agressive... and told me to stop talking LOL.
I was just excited and somewhat frustrated and this was not personally directed at MiP.
but water mercury takes things personally. :P
and then I was like OH NOO DON'T BE LIKE THAT..I WAS JUST... but nope water mercury has to sulk it out and asks for an apology 10 minutes later...
It's cute though..
Pfft, 'til it's the 5th time you have to "apologize…" I would be interested to see how Water / Fire or Water / Air communicates through text messaging, or if they communicate better in person (removing everything we know already about body language, etc. basically no common sense stuff just our Mercuries involved.) If they take things personally, then what about if you directly attack them? Is that unforgivable to water mercuries? And what's the difference between inconjunct and quincunx because I thought they were the same, and I thought Gemini was that to Scorpio, not Aries? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted November 01, 2013 02:08 AM
LOL I know right... like I knew there was no point in trying to explain my actions because MiP would not understand anyways.. I have to say I'm sorry pretty often just to avoid further conflict but whatever. you're right but I don't which I like more inconjunct or quincunx.. Aries too
venus in Aries in quincunx my Pluto in scorpio synastry wise. and Yeah totally, My Gemini friend who has mercury in cancer and still remembers all the insults her ex told her before they broke up....
Safe to say if he ever tries to come back she could probably repeat every last word to him....
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hannaramaa
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posted November 01, 2013 02:19 AM
"venus in Aries in quincunx my Pluto in scorpio synastry wise."Are all Venus in Aries Q. Pluto in Scorpio in synastry then? IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted November 01, 2013 02:22 AM
Within an orb of 1-2 degrees.
venus 19 degrees inconjunct pluto 20 degrees.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted November 01, 2013 10:56 AM
I consider myself quite straightforward for a Water Mercury.I may not tell things openly by myself, but if you ask, I'll answer honestly, or reject your question and say "It's personal" or "I'd rather not talk about it". The thing with Fire Mercuries is that they often don't think before speaking, they don't take the other person's feelings into consideration before making a remark, for example. And that is quite unpleasant for other Mercuries, especially Watery ones. I can only speak for myself, but I'm usually quite aware of the emotional undercurrents in any conversation - I automatically read between the lines and try to pick up on the other person's emotional state, and it allows me to "know" if there's something deeper going on or not (it's quite subjective, however). The problem is that sometimes I focus too much on the way someone communicates - I pay attention to details: the words chosen, the tone, and so on. That's if someone caught my attention and I want to know how they tick. Otherwise I'm not that probing. Aries (and Fire in general) Mercuries are fine. They're quite easy to talk to but lack that "something" that would make a Water Mercury feel truly "understood", in my opinion.
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