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goatcat
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posted November 01, 2013 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone please please give me advice on how Capricorn Mercury square Aries Mercury can communicate effectively?

This question is long overdue.

His Mercury is in Aries, seventh house. Quick speech. Quick thinking. Does not think before speaking. His Libra rising, Libra moon, and seventh house mercury make his speech very specific. Everything is a debate. "Why dont you get it?" attitude. Makes people feel dumb when something is obvious to him. Thinks in "now". Bad planner.

My mercury is Capricorn. Slow speaker. Speaks very carefully. Mercury is conjunct with Neptune so I am bad at being specific and I tend to generalize. Asks many questions. Has to be sure before moving on.

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I'm so cappy
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posted November 01, 2013 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dump him. Next!

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posted November 01, 2013 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's good that you can identify the problem. There will always be subsets of people we have a tough time communicating with.

There may be a myriad of ways of going about this.

My first thought is going through an intermediary. Taurus gets along well with Capricorn and Aries in most situations. That could be a good route.

If you're having to deal with the Aries directly understand that the Aries knows that he's that way. Call him on it. Let him know the ways that his speech is deficient from your perspective. Bring up the issues you see, and don't let him off the hook. You may be bad at being specific, but if he's not communicating everything you need to know, then he's also got an issue with being specific. Hold him to the details. Make him think it through. If that doesn't work, ask him how he'd approach the task if he were in your shoes. Lead his mind down that road.

If that doesn't work, find someone that usually understands this guy, and ask them what he meant when he said whatever he said.

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posted November 01, 2013 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Dump him. Next!


Why would I do that when all the other factors in my relationship are great

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posted November 01, 2013 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries mercury can get agressive and excited, don't take it personally.
Cap mercury can't keep up with high energy Aries so you'll have to be more diplomatic.
Laugh it off and ignore it because it's probably not personal.

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posted November 01, 2013 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet you are very mellow about thinking and speaking with Mercury conjunct Neptune. You might enjoy quiet time, daydreaming and stories. If you meander around the point too much, Aries Mercury could express frustration.

An Aries Mercury would be direct and to the point. I like that about Aries Mercury. They can get right down to things without complicating and confusing. They can also be creative but they can be loud, too, and intimidating. What I don't like is the impulsive hot headedness. I know someone whose dad has it, he is very loud and doesn't really listen to others that much and he has a temper, too. He can anger others with his speech.

The problem I see is one is very quick, to the point and somewhat impulsive, might not have too much patience, while the Capricorn Mercury with Neptune is much more dreamy and might kinda confuse others sometimes in what they say which the Aries Mercury would express frustration at. This could hurt the feelings of Mercury Cap with Neptune.

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posted November 01, 2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lemme put it into perspective:

Me: let's meet at the eucalyptus tree at 5

Him: OK

-its 5 and he's at the wrong tree-

Me: I told you the eucalyptus tree!

Him: I dunno what those look like

Me: you have a smartphone why didn't you look it up or tell me you don't know what they look like??!

Him: *shrugs* (libra-avoiding conflict silence)

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posted November 01, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The communication issues are not that serious, they're just irritating.

Our perspectives are so different. I admit that I expect him to see things the way I do. He's a ram I'm a goat. The two look similar but are two different things.

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posted November 01, 2013 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I confuse everyone with my speech. I'm working on it. My Libra teacher called me out on it the other day. She says I say things and generalize and expect people to know what I am talking about.

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posted November 01, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think of the Mercuries as sets of directions for something that needs putting together before it is used.

The Mercury in Aries directions are short and to the point in easy to follow steps so that someone can skim them very quickly, then know how to put whatever they bought together in the shortest amount of time possible. They are the condensed five minute directions, the abridged version.

The Mercury in Capricorn directions might come in more than one language, have pictures and diagrams, and are very long and detailed so someone will have to read for about thirty minutes or longer in order to put their item together. You might even need to know something about your product first, not just be a novice.

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posted November 02, 2013 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eucalyptus was pretty specific, and he didn't ask to confirm his suspicion about which tree was the eucalyptus. There was no deficiency on your part in that transaction.

The shrugging suggests that he didn't really think there would be consequences, and he was probably right about that. It seems he'd rather you put in more work in being specific if you're looking for a particular result.

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The Mercury in Aries directions are short and to the point in easy to follow steps so that someone can skim them very quickly, then know how to put whatever they bought together in the shortest amount of time possible. They are the condensed five minute directions, the abridged version.

The Mercury in Capricorn directions might come in more than one language, have pictures and diagrams, and are very long and detailed so someone will have to read for about thirty minutes or longer in order to put their item together. You might even need to know something about your product first, not just be a novice.


I don't have either of these Mercuries, but I still sense that these descriptions are off. My Mercury is in Sag. I agree that Mercury in Aries might be short and to the point, but I would theorize that they might go so far as to leave out certain steps. For Mercury in Capricorn I would expect no less of a concise nature, but would be more carefully considered --though, even in the Capricorn Mercury, things might be left out. Cardinal is known for doing, not thoroughness. If you want carefully laid out, precise plans, you might look to some Mutable influence in the mix.

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posted November 02, 2013 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was just a metaphor. It's the way I envision both Mercuries. It's not to be taken literally and I can relate to Mercury in Aries being like this because I have Aries on the cusp of my seventh house and I prefer short, concise directions rather than pages of long, drawn out, complicated ones. It's a matter of preference although I can deal with longer directions, I prefer the Aries version, lol.

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