posted November 06, 2013 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
H4 isn't even really family anymore any ways. Maybe in the past, but modern astrology, I don't consider it.

I am four planets in Scorpio and I'm not revengeful or begrudging.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
You could be one day or perhaps you were when younger?

What about your progressions?

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posted November 06, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Maybe, 4 planets in 4th in progression as well.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
H4 isn't even really family anymore any ways. Maybe in the past, but modern astrology, I don't consider it.

I am four planets in Scorpio and I'm not revengeful or begrudging.

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What is it related to in modern astro? childhood?

posted November 06, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Are you a homebody type or do you like to go out a lot?

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posted November 06, 2013 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Depends upon my mood, I’m very moody.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
H4 is your sanctuary and private safety, to me. In the past, your family was your protection and support circle, but nowadays, people are much more independent. I find H4 people aren't so much family-oriented, but rather need their private quarters to retreat to (which can often even just be their own heads!) and often have only a very small amount of close ties.

But the IC still does provide insight to childhood, effects of the past, and family life - H4 itself seems much more broad to me than that, however.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I find H4 people aren't so much family-oriented, but rather need their private quarters to retreat to (which can often even just be their own heads!) and often have only a very small amount of close ties.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
H4 is your sanctuary and private safety, to me. In the past, your family was your protection and support circle, but nowadays, people are much more independent. I find H4 people aren't so much family-oriented, but rather need their private quarters to retreat to (which can often even just be their own heads!) and often have only a very small amount of close ties.

But the IC still does provide insight to childhood, effects of the past, and family life - H4 itself seems much more broad to me than that, however.

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I'm a Sag who doesn't like to be away from home for too long. And although I like to go out and have a good time, I don't like big parties, strangers or meeting new people makes me very nervous and I really hate crowds.

RE: 4th house, I learned that 4H was not only family but also as you say support structures (could it be who we consider out family? Like "Friends"), environment (where you retreat to, where is your sanctuary) and heritage (culture, roots, ethnicity). Kind of like where you lay your hat is your "home". lol

posted November 06, 2013 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
That's probably how the fourth house stellium shows up, along with sun and personal planets in Pisces.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I've always thought of fourth house people being happiest in their own homes in their own spaces, with familiar belongings and people around them, even if the people are friends, not family.

They like going to the same places and feel kinda strange in unfamiliar environments. They might prefer going to the same neighborhood restaurant they went with their families as children, for instance, instead of going to a new one. It's about familiarity and personalization instead of feeling lost in an unknown environment where they don't know anyone.

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posted November 06, 2013 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Yeah, well I can recognize some of this… for an example I always pick the same sort of Ice-cream (chocolate and vanilla) because I know this works:P But when eating out in a restaurant I never pick the same one, I can't stand being the same place 2 times… I'm just like "What if the next one I visit is even better"
In general I also think like this…"what if there is something out there I'm missing out? Gotta try something new"
Maybe it's my uranus and mercury influence who makes me different

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posted November 06, 2013 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What about being proud of your home town or where you grew up? That's the kind of thinking that goes with the fourth house. Patriotism, too, and being proud of who one is.

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posted November 06, 2013 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
^ lol

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posted November 06, 2013 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
No I'm not…I'm not gonna be the one to defend my home country at all:S I'm nothing like 4th house… I even like some of my closest friends more than my family, the only person I'm close with from my family is my mother, and that is actually very 4th house, the moon is also my chart ruler:P

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posted November 06, 2013 06:02 PM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
And everyone with a 4th house stellium loves to live out in the countryside where they can play their good old country music and wear traditional cloth and go to church every sunday….

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lol #2

posted November 06, 2013 06:05 PM            

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You don't have to go so far to defend it, like, in the military or something like that, just proud of where you grew up, liking to acknowledge it. For example, you like to say, "I grew up in so-and-so and we had this place..." I've met people who like to go on and on about where they grew up and they get all homesick. Maybe it's easier to tell if you move far away.
I am sure such people have fourth house something.

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I don't like my home town. I'm not attached to my country. I'm nor proud nor ashamed to have been born here. My 4th house something is Mercury, Uranus and Lilith.

posted November 06, 2013 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I don't like my home town. I'm not attached to my country. I'm nor proud nor ashamed to have been born here. My 4th house something is Mercury, Uranus and Lilith.

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