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posted November 10, 2013 07:45 AM            

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Ever noticed that this combination gives women that are femme fatale or are considered badass and all?I have noticed that on celebrities a lot.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:22 AM            

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You know, these are the strongest signs, they are fixed and as you may know leo is the king, and with scorpio u cant play with them because they are so powerful and know everything....they are different leo is fire and scorpio is water but of course i agree with you with your comment, specially with scorpio yeah femme fatale icon i cant imagine these 2 energies strongly in a person, it has to be a nightmare but it will give you a lot of power

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posted November 10, 2013 08:32 AM            

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You're right!

For example,there's Avril Lavigne.She's a Leo Rising with Scorpio moon(I didn't have the time to see if she has any. personal planets in hard aspects to pluto)And ,generally, she was always considered to be the Punk Rock girl ect even though she's a Libra sun.

Then,there's Megan Fox.Leo rising square Pluto.Hell,if she aint a person that people either adore or hate.And we all think she is ''badass'' for some reason.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:37 AM            

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Woooowwwww sorry but avril lavigne is scorpio rising!!!! She is libra with scorpio moon and ascendant!!!! Wher did you read leo rising???? Because i saw it a lot of times and always says she is scorpio rising!!!!

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posted November 10, 2013 08:38 AM            

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And megan fox it supposedly to be a scorpio rising too!!!! She is taurus, leo moon and scorpio rising!!!! I know sometimes people says she is leo but i'm not very sure.....

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posted November 10, 2013 08:39 AM            

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I have to say the mix of capricorn and leo has to do a lot in heavy, metal, rock etc....Sometimes leo can appear very scorpian and dark!!!! Think in Marilyn Manson

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posted November 10, 2013 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Woooowwwww sorry but avril lavigne is scorpio rising!!!! She is libra with scorpio moon and ascendant!!!! Wher did you read leo rising???? Because i saw it a lot of times and always says she is scorpio rising!!!!

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sorry astrotheme said so

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posted November 10, 2013 08:43 AM            

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Megan Fox is Leo rising.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:44 AM            

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Why do you get ****** ?It's not like I was there the moment they were born O_o jesus.

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posted November 10, 2013 08:55 AM            

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Hahahahahahahahahah sorry if i am very strong in the way i write, i know you dont have the answers and of course you werent there when their born, but in the case of avril lavigne it surprised me, because everywhere i looked it says she is scorpio rising....i dont know astrotheme sometimes changes the rising signs and it drives me crazy i knew with megan fox there is the doubt if she is scorpio or leo rising...in astrotheme first they said scorpio, maybe now they say she is leo rising i dont know....

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posted November 10, 2013 08:58 AM            

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It's okay lol
They also say that Megan Fox was born a he but that's all stupid sh*t.We can never be sure with a celebrity's natal chart,I guess

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posted November 10, 2013 09:02 AM            

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Lol yes....the same with Madonna....they say she is virgo rising....but in a interviwe she clearly said she was aquarius rising

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posted November 10, 2013 12:35 PM            

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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Lol yes....the same with Madonna....they say she is virgo rising....but in a interviwe she clearly said she was aquarius rising

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lmao it's a good thing i'm not a celebrity then

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posted November 10, 2013 12:57 PM            

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I'm not a woman, but I do have Leo Rising, Scorpio Moon and Mars conjunct Pluto which, I think, are my most defining placements and aspects, along with my Sun and Venus in Virgo.

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posted November 10, 2013 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by VirGuy:
I'm not a woman, but I do have Leo Rising, Scorpio Moon and Mars conjunct Pluto which, I think, are my most defining placements and aspects, along with my Sun and Venus in Virgo.

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Are you "darker" than a usual Leo rising would be?

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posted November 10, 2013 04:09 PM            

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Originally posted by IrisRainbow:
Are you "darker" than a usual Leo rising would be?

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Yes, very much so. I'd say I'm very dark and intense under the surface.

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posted November 10, 2013 06:38 PM            

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I'm a Leo Ascendant with a Scorpio Mars and Pluto.
Ascendant square Pluto.

I don't know if I would consider myself "dark" but I do not like fakers. I see undetectable forces/motives behind people's facade.

If I see bs, I will say it. Plain and simple.

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posted November 11, 2013 10:03 AM            

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wow!much plutonic energy from what it seems

I am "darker" than a usual Leo rising too and my pluto does not touch my Asc,I think.

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posted November 11, 2013 06:53 PM            

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My progressed ASC just went into Leo and quintiles Pluto...wonder if people are going to start telling me "I'm dark" and all.

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posted November 11, 2013 07:23 PM            

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Leo ASC square Scorpio Pluto

I don't think I'm "darker" than your average Leo riser. I do find Scorpio/8th house matters quite intriguing (like astrology for instance ) and I hate secrets being kept from me. I will go to the ends of the earth to find out what it is if I think someone is hiding something from me. I'm also quite "intense" I guess you could call it. It shows in my eyes like all Scorps can relate to. Expression of any emotion I'm feeling can be found in my eyes, they even change color because of it.

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posted November 11, 2013 11:46 PM            

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Both of my ex-girlfriends were Leos with Scorpio Ascendants. I'm very attracted to strong, powerful types (feeds my Venus/Pluto conjunction in Scorpio)... and that they were. They TOTALLY had the femme fatale element to them... mysterious, self-contained quiet confidence that has the ability to command all the attention in a room.

Another example to add to the list is Beyonce, who's a Leo Rising with a Scorpio Moon. (She's also an Unaspected Sun, making her more Leonine.)

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posted August 14, 2016 01:16 PM            

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Avril is now listed as a Libra rising on Astrotheme.

Megan Fox is a Cap rising.

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posted August 14, 2016 04:16 PM            

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Hmmm...not sure what to make of the question then.

One, Avril and Megan Fox are listed as examples, but their astrology doesn't match.

But two, my mom IS a Scorpio with Leo Rising (and Mars), and she's a femme fatale (when it suits her to be, all seductive, mysterious, and dangerous) with a mean streak. While I wouldn't exactly call her bad ass (though she can be tough, uncompromising, and intimidating), I've seen her claw Dad's face while riding his back as he tried to knock her off by slamming her against the wall, and that kind of fire makes me bet she's closer to being bad ass than either Avril or Megan, and why I just can't see Avril or Megan as either of those things.

So does that mean the observation of this thread is accurate after all?

ETA: In no way do I mean this as a slam against Avril and Megan. If given a choice of spending the day with Avril or my mom I'd choose Avril (and I'm not one to obsess over celebrities--ETA 2: it's extremely rare I get to see my mom, and I've only spent several hours with her once since I was 16), and I also think Megan is prettier than my mom (convinced of her own sexiness and beauty) ever was (however, I'd be far more scared to tell Mom that then tell Megan Fox the opposite ), though from what I've seen of Megan Fox (the public side) I think my mom is a lot smarter than her, and probably was even at 20. I also don't consider "femme fatales" to be a good thing (and I'm neutral to "bad ass").

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posted August 15, 2016 08:38 PM            

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I'm a Leo rising but Pluto is my most dominant planet according to the Pullen charts. Femme fatale? Ehh I don't know. I'm a sweet girl, kind of girl next door/tomboy. Not sure about all femme fatale and what not.

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posted August 16, 2016 12:57 AM            

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Omggg I have mercury, venus, northnode and sun in the 5th house (sun is the only one not in leo) with my pluto squaring the sun. Mars (my ascendant ruler) is in scorpio in the 8th house (along with juno, chiron & lilith - scorpio, 8th). I also have pluto trining my ascendant (exact).

My family have always talked about if there's anyone they know who wouldn't take any **** from a man or someone I'm going out with it would be me. Like I know what I've got and I've got a lot (such a leo thing to say lmao) and I will be very generous but if you've crossed the line I will tell you whats up. Apparently (so my cousin says) people are always so intrigued by me because of this mysterious vibe I give off, I'm very quiet so I don't give a lot to go off. I do tend to give off this sweet, playful vibe when I like someone, but when they get to know me they're always shocked (pleasantly) when they see my scorpio mars side!! :')
I always had the classic "diva" attitude when I was a child.. It's not as bad now

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