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Topic: Virgo vs Sagittarius?
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PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:11 AM
  
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Tropical Astrology doesn't use the fixed constellations, but rather the equinoxes.
Which makes Ophiuchus non-existent in Tropical Astrology.
Ophiuchus is a sign aswell as a constellation, but i'm aware of that, originally that was only used as a means of simplifcation. What primarily effects us is the Sun and Moons path through the constellation and the where abouts of the constellations, the fixed stars are the same to the nakshatras of vedic.
The tropical chart is barely useable in our current time, it's 2000 years predated and was made by a Roman who left out Ophiuchus because of its feminine leadership in a roman world. The western chart, imo, is used to keep astrology & astronomy seperate,
The sidereal chart which shows the locations of all stars just as easily relates to the persona. I know Ophiuchus is a real sign as i am one and theres no movement on it, Ophiuchus heals the ills of Man on earth and embraces the stars which is which is the reason it was left out of the roman chart.
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Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
obviously genetics etc all take priority (Probably) but astrology still effects the physical body, i wouldn't say this if i didn't know it was true, study those pictures i posted, if you can't see the relation then you need a teacher 
Now I like you PlutoFish, but what you're saying simply does not make sense.
I can stretch the idea to the point where only the brand new physical characteristics you possess which look nothing like either of your parents or farther down the road (grandparents, great grandparents, etc) come from Astrology, but even then, eventually, the gene-pool runs out of different characteristics and you will start to see repeats of similar physical characteristics. Even if I see a relation with the celebrities, I will have to see ALL celebrities and people have that similar physical characteristic. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Now that's being cold :s
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Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:14 AM
Oh Plutofish would you just stop with the sidereal speech.  Just because you believe it doesn't give you the right to try and force someone else into believing that ******** too hahaha IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:14 AM
The only reason the constellations wern't originally used is because they wouldn't of had the technology to record the specfic whereabouts of them, which they now do ... as we've dawned the aquarian age from the piscean astrology is being updated from a belief system to a astral/modern science.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 12, 2013 12:15 AM
Coming from a Saggy sun/merc/nep and Virgo moon....Virgo has saggy beat!!Never met a saggy that could win my heart, or even get a second date! But I've met Virgo that could! Although it didn't take too long before their pickiness got annoying and I went looking for a Taurus or Aqua! IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I warned you hahahaa
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Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:16 AM
How did the topic go from Sag vs Virgo to complete ******** IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Now I like you PlutoFish, but what you're saying simply does not make sense.I can stretch the idea to the point where only the brand new physical characteristics you possess which look nothing like either of your parents or farther down the road (grandparents, great grandparents, etc) come from Astrology, but even then, eventually, the gene-pool runs out of different characteristics and you will start to see repeats of similar physical characteristics. Even if I see a relation with the celebrities, I will have to see ALL celebrities and people have that similar physical characteristic.
Then go ahead and do some research yourself, i didn't tell you what i have learnt so that you can critize it i said it so you could respect it, i would not say it publicly if i didn't know it was so obviously true. we're not talking about genetics we're talking about astrology. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:17 AM
Barbie, thats not how i see it.
I've spent ages looking into the true depth and meaning of astrology and its knowledge is amazing, i'm trying to share it has the value it should have and did use to. You could see it as forcing my beliefs but i am just trying to move forward with the truth of astrologyIP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
How did the topic go from Sag vs Virgo to complete ********
I don't know.
Topics seem to always go off track eventually, lol. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:20 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
I don't know.
Topics seem to always go off track eventually, lol.
Oh ya especially when it comes to genetics being wrong and astrology "owning" peoples looks and deciding what this and that person are gonna look like. Lol uh no. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5451
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 12, 2013 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
What!?
That's PlutoFish's main obsession!We can talk about Brad Pitt, he's a Sag sun and I just saw him in a movie that reminded me soooo much of Sag suns. Even the strange sounding voice he had was funny. I don't remember his voice sounding quite like that in other films :s IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:22 AM
Damn i hate having the username PlutoFish.------------------
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Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:23 AM
My username maybe Barbiegirl but my name is not Barbie! My name is Dani dammit! IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5451
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 12, 2013 12:24 AM
Choose usernames wisely 
My username is okay. The only reason I came up with it is I could not think of another so I just thought of something that sounded as dorky as possible. It worked!IP: Logged |
venuscorpio86
Knowflake Posts: 628
From: salem,or usa
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted November 12, 2013 12:24 AM
I know a Virgo guy...what a weirdoOO!! But..I like it! Funny, different, random, picky, particular, but somehow we can hangout as friends and well..more...but it isn't weird between us, or anything. He is a bit aloof and cold sometimes but also very pleasant, nice really loves his family a lot, which I admire! I can't really explain my connection to him. He is opposite from me but we vibe well and always have fun when we see eachother and hangout. They are sooo critical kinda of not good but I am used to it know this is just his Virgo way but at same time these people are so particular I feel pretty flattered he sees me in a good enough light that he actually wants to be around. He isn't the guy who has a lot of platonic friends who are girls nor is he type to be mr. romantic with girls he hooks up with. He is like a lone ranger type. I am a Sagittarius and I like this virgo guy! They are good in my book. I actually seem to attract quite alot of them...not sure why!IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Oh ya especially when it comes to genetics being wrong and astrology "owning" peoples looks and deciding what this and that person are gonna look like. Lol uh no.
What are you talking about, do you have any common sense, lol? I feel so misunderstood in what i am trying to achieve here. I have progressed deeply into astrology and how it works without our being and self and am trying to show that astrology simply DOES effect your physical body, i never mentioned anything about genetics or enviromental factors not having an effect, to say that would be wrong.
I am not trying to start any sort of argument, i'm a peaceful & spiritual person, but when it comes to my beleifs (jupiter), they are, in a conjunction with Pluto, Jupiter, Mercury, Ascendant & squared by a 9th house Leo mars & midheaven. ------------------
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Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
What are you talking about, do you have any common sense, lol?I feel so misunderstood in what i am trying to achieve here. I have progressed deeply into astrology and how it works without our being and self and am trying to show that astrology simply DOES effect your physical body, i never mentioned anything about genetics or enviromental factors not having an effect, to say that would be wrong.
I am not trying to start any sort of argument, i'm a peaceful & spiritual person, but when it comes to my beleifs (jupiter), they are conjunct Pluto, Jupiter, Mercury, Ascendant & squared by a 9th mars.
Oooooooooooooooooooooootay IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 5451
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted November 12, 2013 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by venuscorpio86:
I know a Virgo guy...what a weirdoOO!! But..I like it! Funny, different, random, picky, particular, but somehow we can hangout as friends and well..more...but it isn't weird between us, or anything. He is a bit aloof and cold sometimes but also very pleasant, nice really loves his family a lot, which I admire! I can't really explain my connection to him. He is opposite from me but we vibe well and always have fun when we see eachother and hangout. They are sooo critical kinda of not good but I am used to it know this is just his Virgo way but at same time these people are so particular I feel pretty flattered he sees me in a good enough light that he actually wants to be around. He isn't the guy who has a lot of platonic friends who are girls nor is he type to be mr. romantic with girls he hooks up with. He is like a lone ranger type. I am a Sagittarius and I like this virgo guy! They are good in my book. I actually seem to attract quite alot of them...not sure why!
Venus in Scorpio seems to attract Virgo suns.
It puts us at ease. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Oh ya especially when it comes to genetics being wrong and astrology "owning" peoples looks lol
Like I understand what he is trying to get at, but it is already proved as to where our physical appearance comes from. Astrology already isn't accepted for just affecting the personality, so how it is going to be accepted for physical characteristics? If the Romans were trying to hide Ophiuchus, but not Astrology in general, that wouldn't make sense. IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 2052
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by PlutoFish:
Then go ahead and do some research yourself, i didn't tell you what i have learnt so that you can critize it i said it so you could respect it, i would not say it publicly if i didn't know it was so obviously true. we're not talking about genetics we're talking about astrology.
I have already researched Ophiuchus a while ago and after I read that Tropical Astrology doesn't even use the constellations, I knew that Ophiuchus simply cannot logically exist in Tropical Astrology. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
Knowflake Posts: 1517
From: Tibet.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:30 AM
I could say now, the reason none of you understand me, is because i am an Ophiuchus Sun (conjunct Kaali) 1st house, conjunct Scorpio mercury.
I am trying to seek peace and progress through the knowledge of astrology by explaing what i beleive to be the truth, to heal the ills of the world. Astrology needs to be healed. i beleive this to be true, i would then ask you for your opinion on this knowledge, i think this is a key attribute to Ophiuchus.IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurian Intellect:
Like I understand what he is trying to get at, but it is already proved as to where our physical appearance comes from.Astrology already isn't accepted for just affecting the personality, so how it is going to be accepted for physical characteristics? If the Romans were trying to hide Ophiuchus, but not Astrology in general, that wouldn't make sense.
I didn't mean he said that in the first place I was just being sarcastic and saying it generally lol. I understand what he's saying I just don't buy it. That Ophiuchus is a piece of **** lie that some are clearly star struck on lol IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19
Knowflake Posts: 2069
From: 👾🔮The Moon
Registered: Jul 2013
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posted November 12, 2013 12:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PlutoFish:
I could say now, the reason none of you understand me, is because i am an Ophiuchus Sun (conjunct Kaali) 1st house, conjunct Scorpio mercury.
I am trying to seek peace and progress through the knowledge of astrology by explaing what i beleive to be the truth, to heal the ills of the world. Astrology needs to be healed. i beleive this to be true, i would then ask you for your opinion on this knowledge, i think this is a key attribute to Ophiuchus.
Sooo only Brad Pitt and all of your Ophiuchus brothers understand you then right? IP: Logged |
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